Some Interesting Info from an Epistane User

  1. Some Interesting Info from an Epistane User


    I had a guy on another board do a little experiment for me. He ran epistane like this:

    Week 1-2: 40mg Epistane Pulsed MWF
    Week 3-4: Off
    Week 5-6: 40mg Epistane Pulsed MWF
    Week 7-8: Off
    Week 9-10: 40mg Epistane Pulsed MWF
    Week 11-12: Off and got bloodwork done

    Bloodwork came back nearly perfect. Said his HDL was in normal range, but it was at the low end of normal. But he also said it was probably like this before he ever started the cycle. All he took was Milk Thistle when he took the epistane.

    He got awesome strength and lean mass gains from it too...and only cost him 1 bottle of Epistane.

    He is going to try the same thing, again in a few months, except running 50mg Formex for the 2 weeks off in between each pulse.
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  2. That is very interesting...

  3. I'm really not into pulsing... but may try that sometime
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  4. Thanks Natty, do you know his actual weight gain?

  5. no pct for this?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    I'm really not into pulsing... but may try that sometime
    Neither am I

    Quote Originally Posted by danbo View Post
    Thanks Natty, do you know his actual weight gain?
    I sent him a PM to get all his actual lab values and weight gain and all that. He is in his 40's, so I am not sure if he was exactly bulking like younger guys do.

    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    no pct for this?
    He didn't use a PCT, and said he didn't get shut down. Again I am not telling people to do this, it is just feedback from an interesting method. It would be pretty impossible to get shut down from epistane by taking it for M W F for 2 weeks and then stopping for 2 weeks.
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  7. but he was also in his 40's....he's kinda shut down to begin with lol

  8. 4id hw have posr and pre bloodwork

  9. I meant ,can you post his bloodwork numbers pre and post

  10. Working on getting them. It is completely out of my control.

    Also keep in mind the post cycle bloodwork he did get done was after only 1 week of stopping his 3rd two week pulse.

    I am not sure he has "pre-cycle" bloodwork so to speak, just bloodwork he had done last year or something. But I have asked and I am waiting a response. He doesn't log on the boards very often.
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  11. I'm doing a pulse cycle of epistane almost the same way doing 40mg 3-4 times per week. But I will be using formex on my on nights since I will be done taking the epistane by 10am on those days. I'm just taking 1 formex on those nights I plan on doing 4 weeks then taking a 2-3 week break and doing another 4 weeks. Should be a great cycle that I expect some good results from. I am not going to get bloodwork done though so cant help you guys there. I will most likely make a write up on here sometime during or after my cycle.

  12. what were his lean mass gains?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Da 1 Pumpin View Post
    I'm doing a pulse cycle of epistane almost the same way doing 40mg 3-4 times per week. But I will be using formex on my on nights since I will be done taking the epistane by 10am on those days. I'm just taking 1 formex on those nights I plan on doing 4 weeks then taking a 2-3 week break and doing another 4 weeks. Should be a great cycle that I expect some good results from. I am not going to get bloodwork done though so cant help you guys there. I will most likely make a write up on here sometime during or after my cycle.
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  14. I will consider it if I am feeling shutdown or not feeling great I will have my lipids checked but otherwise I don't think that it would be worth the time. But we shall see here in the coming months. I just started the pulse yesterday so it'll be awhile.

  15. im going to do this exact same thing, in about 2 weeks, only need som reconmondation on when to dose.

    i was thinking
    10 am 10mg
    2-3pm 10mg
    7 pm 20mg( preworkout dose)

    how long berfor workout should i dose, i will takin them with food? if thats good to do

  16. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    im going to do this exact same thing, in about 2 weeks, only need som reconmondation on when to dose.

    i was thinking
    10 am 10mg
    2-3pm 10mg
    7 pm 20mg( preworkout dose)

    how long berfor workout should i dose, i will takin them with food? if thats good to do
    Personally I love dosing right before a workout.... 30 minutes or so.

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Personally I love dosing right before a workout.... 30 minutes or so.

    Adams
    it will take effect that quick?, i was thingkin like 2 hours or so?
    would 40mg 30 mins befor a workout ber better in this case asoposed to wat i mention earlyr?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    info?
    Sorry, missed this. All I have for you is anecdotal. I can feel Epi as quick as I can feel any fat burner... i get a rise in aggression. 2 Hours is fine, but I love that initial come up for the gym.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Sorry, missed this. All I have for you is anecdotal. I can feel Epi as quick as I can feel any fat burner... i get a rise in aggression. 2 Hours is fine, but I love that initial come up for the gym.

    Adams
    thanks, i was basig my thought off when i was taking the one and it took about 2 hours till the effects were in full effect

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Working on getting them. It is completely out of my control.

    Also keep in mind the post cycle bloodwork he did get done was after only 1 week of stopping his 3rd two week pulse.

    I am not sure he has "pre-cycle" bloodwork so to speak, just bloodwork he had done last year or something. But I have asked and I am waiting a response. He doesn't log on the boards very often.

    hey man did u get a hold of this guy yet, cuz i just started this same cycle today, i took 40mg 2 hours befor workout, felt good still feel good just alil warm.

  22. Sent the guy a PM, he said he would scan bloodwork for me, then hasn't visited the board since . He wasn't a frequent visitor to begin with though. Let me know how it works!
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  23. well i will chime in after tomarrow so i can give a 3 day report

  24. alright guys i went m/w/f with 40mg dose 2 hours befor workout and 75mg of formex eod
    well first off i have been losing alil weight but my strength was going up tha whole week,
    i feel really good. right now the effects r similar to the one but much less pronuonced,
    also i have been geting random hot flashes threw out the day. ill post back after week two.

  25. Sweeet!
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  26. Started the same today, but I started at 10 mg today and will bump it up to 20/30 mg on Wednesday and 40 mg om Friday.

    I will not do Formex in between days, but I will do Formex in between the 2 weeks.

    This is really good, looking forward to this!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by dementor View Post
    Started the same today, but I started at 10 mg today and will bump it up to 20/30 mg on Wednesday and 40 mg om Friday.

    I will not do Formex in between days, but I will do Formex in between the 2 weeks.

    This is really good, looking forward to this!
    As am I, I am really looking forward to both of your results
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  28. A weekend update from me.

    Started the week on monday with 10 mg
    Wednesday also training day with 30 mg
    Friday training day with full dose at 40 mg

    Monday
    Did not "feel" anything just a normal workout.

    Wednesday
    Did feel something actually, could train harder and more intense. I also could ad a few reps on my bench press which was done this day. If it is just in my head, I don't know, but it was one of those really great workouts.

    Friday
    Now things starts to happen. I have been feeling "on" all day, had a top workout with extra strengt and intensity. Been haveing extra energy all day, feels really good.
    Looking forward to next week.

    I dose one cap in the morning, two with lunch, and one at evening dinner.
    Next week will I do the same days, but with 40 mg every day.

    Update post with stats:
    Bench - 4 rep @ 220 lbs (4 rep @ 242 personal best)
    Dead lift - 1 rep @ 352 lbs (1 rep @ 396 personal best)
    Squat - 3 rep @ 220 lbs (4 rep @ 242 personal best)

    PB:s where 3 months ago, before some illness and other circumstanses. I hope to get closer to my old PB:s with this Epi cycle

  29. Sweet deal man. Looking forward to the 40mg dose!
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  30. Update from me:

    I am in week 4 now, first two weeks Epistane was pulsed according to first post in this thread. Week 3-4 I have been taking Formex 50 mg each day.

    Streangth is up alot!, been cutting so streangth could be much more up if I had been eating more.

    Weight is down some pounds, and the best thing, my body fat % is down!

    I do not give all credit to the supplements, I know how to eat but been sinful some days with beer and candy. Despite this sometimes bad food, I have gotten leaner and stronger.

    I am happy with the results so far. Will do some resting now since I have been training really intens the last week. Formex makes you wanna go on for hours, that part is totally amazing. Better than all Pre Workout products out there. I have been taking Vasocharge as PreWo, but I did that before EPI/Formex too and now especially during the Formex weeks my workouts have been insane.

    Will do another 8 weeks after summer

  31. Bumping for more feedback!

  32. Quote Originally Posted by dementor View Post
    Update from me:

    I am in week 4 now, first two weeks Epistane was pulsed according to first post in this thread. Week 3-4 I have been taking Formex 50 mg each day.

    Streangth is up alot!, been cutting so streangth could be much more up if I had been eating more.

    Weight is down some pounds, and the best thing, my body fat % is down!

    I do not give all credit to the supplements, I know how to eat but been sinful some days with beer and candy. Despite this sometimes bad food, I have gotten leaner and stronger.

    I am happy with the results so far. Will do some resting now since I have been training really intens the last week. Formex makes you wanna go on for hours, that part is totally amazing. Better than all Pre Workout products out there. I have been taking Vasocharge as PreWo, but I did that before EPI/Formex too and now especially during the Formex weeks my workouts have been insane.

    Will do another 8 weeks after summer
    That sounds great! I'm glad that you are responding so well to taking Formex.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I had a guy on another board do a little experiment for me. He ran epistane like this:

    Week 1-2: 40mg Epistane Pulsed MWF
    Week 3-4: Off
    Week 5-6: 40mg Epistane Pulsed MWF
    Week 7-8: Off
    Week 9-10: 40mg Epistane Pulsed MWF
    Week 11-12: Off and got bloodwork done

    Bloodwork came back nearly perfect. Said his HDL was in normal range, but it was at the low end of normal. But he also said it was probably like this before he ever started the cycle. All he took was Milk Thistle when he took the epistane.

    He got awesome strength and lean mass gains from it too...and only cost him 1 bottle of Epistane.

    He is going to try the same thing, again in a few months, except running 50mg Formex for the 2 weeks off in between each pulse.
    Do you think this might work similarly performed week on week off. Just asking as this would better suit the training cycle I wish to run.

    I.e.:

    Week1: Epi pulse MWF
    Week 2: Formex 50mg

    Repeat for a total of 8 weeks.

  34. Quote Originally Posted by dementor View Post
    Update from me:

    I am in week 4 now, first two weeks Epistane was pulsed according to first post in this thread. Week 3-4 I have been taking Formex 50 mg each day.

    Streangth is up alot!, been cutting so streangth could be much more up if I had been eating more.

    Weight is down some pounds, and the best thing, my body fat % is down!

    I do not give all credit to the supplements, I know how to eat but been sinful some days with beer and candy. Despite this sometimes bad food, I have gotten leaner and stronger.

    I am happy with the results so far. Will do some resting now since I have been training really intens the last week. Formex makes you wanna go on for hours, that part is totally amazing. Better than all Pre Workout products out there. I have been taking Vasocharge as PreWo, but I did that before EPI/Formex too and now especially during the Formex weeks my workouts have been insane.

    Will do another 8 weeks after summer
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  35. My biggest issue with a pulse is my workout sched. I coach during the week so time is limited so my workouts are on Fri/Sat/Sun. Any ideas on how to do a pulse similar to the OP?
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  36. Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    My biggest issue with a pulse is my workout sched. I coach during the week so time is limited so my workouts are on Fri/Sat/Sun. Any ideas on how to do a pulse similar to the OP?
    You will do just fine dosing three days in a row and then you will have an off time of 4 days. As a boost you can take a testbooster those 4 days, like Activate Extreme, or even Formex...

    Dr D, the pulse guru, did that I believe. Look in the thread "how to pulse orals", it is a very informative thread, all you need to know is in the first 10-20 pages. Just a quick scan and you will find all answers.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by dementor View Post
    You will do just fine dosing three days in a row and then you will have an off time of 4 days. As a boost you can take a testbooster those 4 days, like Activate Extreme, or even Formex...

    Dr D, the pulse guru, did that I believe. Look in the thread "how to pulse orals", it is a very informative thread, all you need to know is in the first 10-20 pages. Just a quick scan and you will find all answers.
    Thanks, I did a pulse several yrs ago and it went well. Just cant remember if I ran 3 days on/4 off or what. I did run Mass FX on off days and it went well. I followed up with MassFX/HD.
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