The more I read the more I realize that Havoc/Epi is not the mild compound it's reputed to be. Sure, some people have no problem with it but there are many people who do everything right and still get into trouble.
I really appreciate all the info people have shared about their experience pro & con. No way I could have figured any of this out without input from people on this site and others.
I think I'm going to go with h-drol. I'll get slightly reduced gains but greatly reduced probability of sides. For me it's a fair trade. I'm looking for a shortcut to a little cut and a little bulk to feel better. Gyno, shrunken nuts, lost libido, shutdown test, hair loss, etc. are not going to make me feel better.
So I have an off topic question. Feel free to answer Y/N or ignore me. I got all my supps lined up for Havoc minus the AI. I suspect that I can basically run the same protocol for my cycle and PCT, but should I add an AI if I run h-drol instead? TIA