Bodybuilding ForumYour AmSpace Profile
Register Forum AmSpaceStore Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Join Anabolicminds.com!! Register Today!
 
  AnabolicMinds.com Forum > Nutrition Forum > Bulking
 
LinkBack Thread Tools    Search this Thread     
Old 05-05-2008, 10:03 PM   #1
Registered User
 
ch4zl33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Stats: 170 lbs
Posts: 14
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 ch4zl33 is on a distinguished road
Points: 52, Level: 1Points: 52, Level: 1Points: 52, Level: 1
Level up: 2%, 48 Points neededLevel up: 2%, 48 Points neededLevel up: 2%, 48 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
A couple questions for you all.

Hey all.

I've signed up at ballys and theres this big jacked guy there he gave me a tour and helped me workout.
But his way was a little different, He said do 6 sets of 8-10 reps for each machine i was doing.
he knew my goals were to bulk up and I've told him that I was doing HD HIT the mike metzner way. I don't think he knew to much about that tho.

I thought this was really weird cuz everything ive read about bulking said to do heavy weight and low reps.
Whats up with this guy?

Anyways, I don't really feel like a fully understand HIT so i'd rather not do it and than do it and not get the full effect.

So what other bulking programs are there?

Also....in the last HIT video with mike. He had markus work his chest/back in the same day. I thought that was a little weird cuz ive always learned Back/Bi's, Chest/Tri's, so i thought i wouldn't question it and just follow the routine. Then when I tell people what muscles i worked out today there all like wait why thats dumb?

could someone explain this to me?
thanksss
ch4zl33 is online now Add to ch4zl33's Reputation Report Post Edit/Delete Message
 
ch4zl33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2008, 08:26 PM   #2
Registered User
 
ch4zl33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Stats: 170 lbs
Posts: 14
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 ch4zl33 is on a distinguished road
Points: 52, Level: 1Points: 52, Level: 1Points: 52, Level: 1
Level up: 2%, 48 Points neededLevel up: 2%, 48 Points neededLevel up: 2%, 48 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Bumpp =d
 
ch4zl33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2008, 08:29 PM   #3
yo quiero pantalones anabolizantes
 
ozarkaBRAND's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Stats: 5'9" 170 lbs
Posts: 2,932
Leave Comment
Reputation: 20972 ozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond reputeozarkaBRAND has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 27,974, Level: 73Points: 27,974, Level: 73Points: 27,974, Level: 73
Level up: 74%, 576 Points neededLevel up: 74%, 576 Points neededLevel up: 74%, 576 Points needed
Activity: 27%Activity: 27%Activity: 27%

View Profile
That guys sounds like an idiot. 6 sets of 8-10 on each exercise is completely ridiculous and unnecessary. Don't listen to that guy!
 



"But by God's grace I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not ineffective."
-1 Corinthians 15:10a

I'm not gold anymore so I can't post links..
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
ozarkaBRAND is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2008, 08:49 PM   #4
RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!!!
 
Zombie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Age: 25
Stats: 5'8" 198 lbs
Posts: 5,455
Leave Comment
Reputation: 7262 Zombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 15,229, Level: 53Points: 15,229, Level: 53Points: 15,229, Level: 53
Level up: 54%, 221 Points neededLevel up: 54%, 221 Points neededLevel up: 54%, 221 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND
That guys sounds like an idiot. 6 sets of 8-10 on each exercise is completely ridiculous and unnecessary. Don't listen to that guy!
i agree with the above post.

But what are your stats ?
maybe he tought you were too fat and wanted to get you on more reps of moderated weight but seems kind of excesive for someone that is just starting(i dont know if thats your sitiation since you didnt gave alot of info)
 



Member: Blitzkrieg Ninja Brigade~ ask me about my weinner ! ! !

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Zombie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2008, 08:54 PM   #5
RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!!!
 
Zombie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Age: 25
Stats: 5'8" 198 lbs
Posts: 5,455
Leave Comment
Reputation: 7262 Zombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond reputeZombie has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 15,229, Level: 53Points: 15,229, Level: 53Points: 15,229, Level: 53
Level up: 54%, 221 Points neededLevel up: 54%, 221 Points neededLevel up: 54%, 221 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by ch4zl33
could someone explain this to me?
thanksss
ch4zl33 is online now Add to ch4zl33's Reputation Report Post Edit/Delete Message
ch4zl33 is online now is obvious
Add to ch4zl33's Reputation this is to add rep if you said something helpfull people can lick there and make a brief comment and give you reps and you can do the same to others, you cant give reps to yourself, only to other members.|
Report Postif somene breaks the rules or something like that you just click there and type a message or why your reporting that post and a MOD would see it and if its breaking a rule or something they delete , edit or lock it.
Edit/Delete Message this is another obvious
 



Member: Blitzkrieg Ninja Brigade~ ask me about my weinner ! ! !

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Zombie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2008, 09:26 PM   #6
Legend In Your Mind & IBE Rep
 
DAdams91982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Age: 26
Stats: 6'1" 210 lbs
Posts: 3,292
Leave Comment
Reputation: 55342 DAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond reputeDAdams91982 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 58,828, Level: 100Points: 58,828, Level: 100Points: 58,828, Level: 100
Level up: 2%, 0 Points neededLevel up: 2%, 0 Points neededLevel up: 2%, 0 Points needed
Activity: 15%Activity: 15%Activity: 15%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie
ch4zl33 is online now is obvious
Add to ch4zl33's Reputation this is to add rep if you said something helpfull people can lick there and make a brief comment and give you reps and you can do the same to others, you cant give reps to yourself, only to other members.|
Report Postif somene breaks the rules or something like that you just click there and type a message or why your reporting that post and a MOD would see it and if its breaking a rule or something they delete , edit or lock it.
Edit/Delete Message this is another obvious


Bwahahaha.

Smart@ss.

Adams
 



Will Smith LIED to you all..... I AM LEGEND

REVERSE * EPISTANE * XLEAN * XDREAM * MATRIX * XFORCE
DAdams91982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2008, 01:23 PM   #7
Banned
 
pantera101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Age: 23
Posts: 3,409
Leave Comment
Reputation: 4507 pantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 7,949, Level: 38Points: 7,949, Level: 38Points: 7,949, Level: 38
Level up: 39%, 301 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 301 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 301 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
He's also a dumbass for telling you to do machines!Supplement with machines if anything.Never make them a staple unless you're injured and need the support.Or else you'll look like the other guys that do this.You know the ones that come in with sleevless saggy arms and farmer tans and wearing a weigh belt for machine curls while doing the strangest variations of machine and cable curls imaginable.....
 
pantera101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 06:03 AM   #8
Registered User
 
rhys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 rhys is on a distinguished road
Points: 46, Level: 1Points: 46, Level: 1Points: 46, Level: 1
Level up: 1%, 4 Points neededLevel up: 1%, 4 Points neededLevel up: 1%, 4 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
hey i dont tink anyone is an idiot if theyr doing wat works for them. Some machines do work better for periods of time than free weights. Aurther Jones (rest his soul) taught us that. i find i bulk better with 8 reps than 6. thats wat works for me and im no idiot. about chest and biceps that makes perfect sence as long as then next day ur not using ur bi's cause u dont fatigue ur bi's by doing chest so u can go all out on them. instead of doin tri's half arse at the end cause they are already half spent (i know u r goin to say ya u ahve half done em so finish em off) but i find i need to isolate my arms more than most! experiment! its the name of the game cause we arnt made the same!
 
rhys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 07:49 AM   #9
Banned
 
pantera101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Age: 23
Posts: 3,409
Leave Comment
Reputation: 4507 pantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 7,949, Level: 38Points: 7,949, Level: 38Points: 7,949, Level: 38
Level up: 39%, 301 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 301 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 301 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Free weights recruit more muscle fibers.
 
pantera101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:53 PM   #10
Registered User
 
futurepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Stats: 6'1" 247 lbs
Posts: 1,708
Leave Comment
Reputation: 32801 futurepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond reputefuturepilot has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 36,030, Level: 83Points: 36,030, Level: 83Points: 36,030, Level: 83
Level up: 84%, 570 Points neededLevel up: 84%, 570 Points neededLevel up: 84%, 570 Points needed
Activity: 25%Activity: 25%Activity: 25%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by pantera101
Free weights recruit more muscle fibers.

True but they stimulate a wide variety of muscle fibers. Chest machine versus bench press for example. Machine-Chest, some triceps, minimal shoulder. Bench-chest, shoulder, triceps, forearms, legs to some degree. also lats for stabilazation.

So it depends what your going for, a bodybuilder would incorporate machines, while a strict powerlifter would never consider that sort of treason.
 
futurepilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 08:25 PM   #11
Banned
 
pantera101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Age: 23
Posts: 3,409
Leave Comment
Reputation: 4507 pantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond reputepantera101 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 7,949, Level: 38Points: 7,949, Level: 38Points: 7,949, Level: 38
Level up: 39%, 301 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 301 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 301 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Most bb'rs are mainly free weights though.You just gota do your best to isolate the muscle you're working.With machines you push/pull and thats it.With free weights you have to balance the weights as you push/pull and this is what makes the muscles work harder which recruits more fibers to help out and causes more of an overload to the muscles.Most bb'rs use machines or cables to finish off the muscle with a nice pump and contractions because of it being easier to isolate the muscle.The only BB'r I know of who seems to use lots of machines and cables is Markus Ruhel.He's obvisouly a big dude but most use free weights and then might finish off with machines or cables.
 
pantera101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:40 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright
2002 - 2008 Anabolicminds.com