[krazy]

Call me crazy but Im experimenting (with good results) with 1 set to failure 10-15 reps

[pantera101]

Theirs a somewhat famous guy who suggest something like that.

[remeizo]

Dorian Yates used to do one amazingly heavy set to failure in his workouts in the last few years that he won the Mr. Olympia.

[pantera101]

Their was this guy saying that all you need is one set,and most do too much.What realy made sence though,was for beginners to start with one set,and if they don't respond with time,up it to two.He was saying most start off with too much,and from there you will only begin to do more.Besides,if one set is enough why do 10-15?Was his point.
I don't remember the guys name.I do remember them asking about religion,and he said well it's impossible for their to be a god.I believe he's dead now,so if their is a god,i'll see him in hell and we can "catch up"

[poacher]

The right rep range is doing just enough to tear the muscle down to a point where the can reheal and grow in time for the next workout. It is a very elusive , ever changing number.

[Red Dog]

7-9 Reps

[pantera101]

How many of you hate being subscribed to threads with a votting pole on them as much as I do?They should fix it to where you only get notified when someone actually makes a post and not a vote.I'm so tired of having to click it then exit it so it wont be on my ucer cp.I think about closing my subscription to it,but I just know that when I do something important will come up and I'll miss it...... Stuck between a rock and a hard place!

[CryingEmo]

7.4 reps.

[sreed11]

Originally Posted by amadorian

Agreed I wish this was discussed more, I used TUT for some time and I always felt slow and sluggish and my workouts were very low intesity. Your breathing is off and you don't get your heart rate up because it is such a slow movement. However this did bring out the sides of my Triceps and and helped my shoulders to round a little more, but I didn't feel good leaving the gym after a workout like this.

I'm doing 4/2/2 and it kills. Going for 15 reps as i'm back to phase 1 of OPT. I have no idea how they are low intensity for you, these seem very hard and my heart rate gets up much quicker this way. I'm actually quite confused how this is easier for you than whatever other tempo you are using seeing as the eccentric part of a movement is the hardest on the muscle.

[pantera101]

People get confused on what intensity is.I hear some say that they're going to shorten breaks to keep intensity up.You can rest 10 seconds between sets and have low intensity within a set.You can rest 10 minutes and and have high intensity within a set.Watch Branch warren train and you will realise what intensity is.

[CryingEmo]

Originally Posted by pantera101

People get confused on what intensity is.I hear some say that they're going to shorten breaks to keep intensity up.You can rest 10 seconds between sets and have low intensity within a set.You can rest 10 minutes and and have high intensity within a set.Watch Branch warren train and you will realise what intensity is.

Like this?

[pantera101]

Such a good dvd!I'm going to have to watch it in the morning before the gym.If I watch it now I will be so pumped and will have trouble sleeping.

[CryingEmo]

Originally Posted by pantera101

Such a good dvd!I'm goping to have to watch it in the morning before the gym.If I watch it now I will be so pumped and will have trouble sleeping.

You should take 25 mg ephedrine/ 200 mg caffiene / 50 mg geranamine, watch that video a few times with pantera blasting loudly as possible, then... go to sleep.

Try it.

[pantera101]

Lol!

[Bulldawg07]

Originally Posted by Bunting

I stick to 4-6 reps. I used to do 8-10 reps like you are talking about and made gains but very very slowly.
I started the Max 0T program and I put on 15 lbs and added alot of weight to my lifts in about 12 weeks.
and when I say 4-6 reps I mean that you are overloading your muscles by using a weight that is light enough to do atleast 4 reps but heavy enough that you CAN NOT do more than 6 reps.
Even if you are cutting you should still be lifting the same way. It's your deit that gets adjusted.
This is Max OT in a nutshell:
4-6 reps
2-3 minutes rest in between
6-9 heavy sets per muscle group
1-2 muscle groups trained a day
5-7 days rest between training a certain muscle part
8-9 weeks of training and then you take a week off
30-45 minute workouts. The idea is short but intense vs. long and drawn out.

alot of this goes against what you see most people doing in the gym...with supersetting and burnout sets etc.
But for a hardgainer like myself I found this program to be just what the doctor ordered.
and as for "ego lifters." I'm not really sure what that means. Sure there are guys who like to do low reps simply because they value the weight they can lift more than the shaping of their physique but that doesn't mean that everyone that sticks to this rep range is doing this so that they can pump their chest at how much weight they can put up.
I lift this way simply because I've found that for my body type it is the most efficient and productive way to slap on muscle mass.
Like my friend who's an absolute monster and who basically got me into "truly lifting" likes to say: "The weight you can put up is just a number. Sure it can tell you that you are making gains and you need to be increasing the weight you do periodically in order to make gains. But when it comes down to it, would you rather be the guy who can bench 400 lbs. or the guy who looks like he can bench 400 lbs.?"

care to post or pm me your workout.
sounds beneficial