Dirty Bulk or CLean Bulk....?
- 02-19-2008, 09:29 PM
- 02-19-2008, 10:45 PM
02-20-2008, 12:33 AM
I have a pretty decent metabolism but put on fat pretty easy. But what I've discovered is that I can't gain even muscle weight if I don't have some sort of "dirty" calories in there each day. If I eat completely clean I can't get enough calories in with each meal. And when I eat dirtier I don't mean Mcdonalds, I mean a good higher fat burger at home, or some mashed white potatoes, stuff that I normally wouldn't eat if I'm trying to cut up.
02-20-2008, 05:18 AM
dude.. that's completely fine... this is just your bulking phase.. you need CALORIES to grow!! besides, you're not going to be eating like this forever... it is next to impossible to add on lean muscle if you're already cut and at a certain weight.. the body is just not used to growing.. you have to force growth and CALORIES will allow you to do this...
02-21-2008, 12:44 AM
If you have been cutting for a while then you will gain muscle quickly as you raise your calories. The best thing to do would be run a clean or dirty bulk for 12 weeks. Cut for 6 to 8 weeks, then run the other type of bulk for 12 weeks. Then you'll see which works best for you. It's not like you are going to retire after this bulk.
For me I know that clean bulking is most effective. I gain less fat and most importantly I have less cravings while cutting especially for a contest.
03-06-2008, 01:00 AM
Genetics.......you either have it, or you don't......Sad but TRUE.....(metallica)
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03-13-2008, 10:16 PM
i've doing a clean bulk since october and i have to say i'm extremly happy with the results.
no more putting on tons of fat just to cut it off later for me!
03-28-2008, 01:33 AM
This is for Pantera, I toouse the muscle Juice and while using one ten pounder I have gained around two lbs lean and 3lbs fat. Not great but atleast I have gained the two pounds. I am a harsh ectomorph and I could lose those 3 lbs of fat in 3-5 days probably even less.
03-28-2008, 05:23 AM
Some of you guys might already know but i went from 165-200 in 15 weeks. I ate fairly clean and only supplemented ON gold standard whey 3 shakes a day, and had LG Methyl 1-d for 2 weeks and a multi vitamin. Food wise it was 6 weet bix for breakfast., snack on bananas and cream cheese portions and nuts, top quality rib fillet steak at least twice a week, chicken breast products baked not fried, 2 whole eggs in each shake in the last 5 weeks, pasta and lasagne salad and fibrous vegies. Lifting was free weights and compound exercises and i did the DC training for last 5 weeks. I believe a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle so overloaded with negs and forced reps all the time. Also get plenty of rest.
03-28-2008, 07:11 AM
06-26-2008, 04:15 PM
I'd go with the clean bulk, but I dislike using the word "bulk" in general. I think it's pretty easy to maintain steady eating habits throughout the whole year without having to cut at the end of the year, while making substantial strides in body composition. Upping calories part of the year doesn't seem necessary to me.
06-26-2008, 11:39 PM
06-26-2008, 11:48 PM
I have switched to clean food now.I have been cutting though,so I haven't bulked clean,but I plan too soon!I look better due to less fat,and my BP has come down.I just hope I can eat enough clean bland food to overcome my incredibly overely revved metabolism and put on some size!!!I have also learned from cutting that I have been eating way too many carbs while bulking.That should help keep me leaner as well.
06-27-2008, 05:55 AM
i want to build increase muscle and size. Is there any steriod alternative apart from steriods which will give me results??
06-27-2008, 09:38 AM
08-25-2008, 07:40 PM
08-26-2008, 05:21 AM
08-28-2008, 10:06 AM
08-31-2008, 08:00 PM
Well..being a jobless,carless full time college student kinda sucks ass, you kinda just gotta eat whats in the fridge.
I had a rediculously fast metabolism before I started lifting, I could not gain a pound for my life, but when I started to hit the gym about two years ago, my throat became a shuttle lane for anything that edible, (four double cheeseburgers from mcdonalds after a workout) LOL, I tell ya I went from 115 pounds to 180 at my highest in about two years, i never truly got "fat" but in comparison to a bodybuilder standpoint, hell yea, haha, I mean i had about one ab visible for a long time
but nowadays I usually try to do 15 minutes of cardio after every workout session, stay away from alot of sugars/fast food only if its last resort-but more intelligent choices so like a snackwrap, or a mcchicken..but god damn i just wanna beast out and get massive in the winter..the cardio/selective eating has taken quite the toll on my size
08-31-2008, 11:41 PM
Food-wise stay away from greasy takeouts, processed junk and empty calorific food high in sugar. Go for nutrient-dense foods.
09-01-2008, 10:54 AM
Eat yo put on muscle. THis will vary with the individual. Clean/dirty, whatever work you. Clean for me
09-10-2008, 06:51 PM
how many calories over maintainence are we talking about?
i want to gain about 0.5 lb/week and so far by eating around 200-250 over..i been able to do that.
i read it's not very realistic to put on anything more than that in terms of muscle..so can i continue to do this until i stop gaining, then increase the cals slightly?
09-10-2008, 07:23 PM
10-25-2008, 10:58 AM
I would note suggest a dirty bulk,grinman is right your bulk just be just like your cut but with bigger portions I would also suggest not getting so caught up in counting calories dont rely on numbers and stuff just go by how you feel. The way to grow is eat just above satisfaction at each meal by doing that you will get the quality cals you need without driving yourself nuts with numbers
10-25-2008, 11:08 PM
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