Dirty Bulk or CLean Bulk....?
02-15-2008 10:11 PM
I do have spaghetti and hamburger helper,but whole eggs instead of eggwhites and beef instead of chicken will up your cals a lot.I mainly eat oats to hopefully keep fat levels lower.Healthy foods are more filling for some reason,sometimes i get to where i cant eat anymore,but i'm not realy full,just no desire and dry mouth.But if it's some good greasy fatty food or just damn good,i can get uncomftorably full fast and easy,and then BAM,i start to grow.Just bought muscle juice by ultimate nutrition,990 cals,18 fat,152 carbs,55 prot,been drinking two a day,along with a fast food combo(water or diet coke)for like 6 of the past 7 days,don't plan on cutting back for a while either
02-18-2008 02:27 PM
I dirty bulked my way to 190 from 155, and I am not even close to being called fat; in fact, I am really happy with what has happened. Of course, I stayed away from the **** that doesn't have ANY good stuff in it like say soda or random ass sweets.. but you can bet your asses that the rest of the stuff I was eating included burgers and fries... during this time I did NO cardio... but here is my question: Should I have done cardio once in a while? when should i start.. i guess i am pretty fortunate to have been given my metabolism even though right now i have been trying my best to CLEAN BULK..
02-19-2008 07:22 PM
You Definitly want to clean bulk...Consider your bulking diet to be just like a cutting diet with bigger portions. And you can have your 2 days of cheat meals on days you dont train...Whats the point of gaining a lot of fat when it all has to come off at some point anyway...
02-19-2008 07:27 PM
And just do cardio 2 or 3 times a week to keep your metabolism going and your heart strong
02-19-2008 07:33 PM
..when we sleep, our fat reserves are used when muscle tissue is being repaired.. ant that's why.. of course, you don't want to eat ****ty foods, but you want a little fat.. that's the good kind
Originally Posted by Grinman07
02-19-2008 09:29 PM
I'm guessing you have a slow metabolism.Arnold clearly has a fast metabolism as do i.I could have written his post about eating fast food,staying away from sweets etc....I don't get truly fat.At my heaviest,if i have on a t-shirt,it would be a coin toss if you were guessing if i had ripped abs or not.This my friend is not fat.We need the extra cals to grow,staying somewhat lean is proof.
Originally Posted by Grinman07
02-19-2008 10:45 PM
02-20-2008 12:33 AM
I have a pretty decent metabolism but put on fat pretty easy. But what I've discovered is that I can't gain even muscle weight if I don't have some sort of "dirty" calories in there each day. If I eat completely clean I can't get enough calories in with each meal. And when I eat dirtier I don't mean Mcdonalds, I mean a good higher fat burger at home, or some mashed white potatoes, stuff that I normally wouldn't eat if I'm trying to cut up.
02-20-2008 05:18 AM
dude.. that's completely fine... this is just your bulking phase.. you need CALORIES to grow!! besides, you're not going to be eating like this forever... it is next to impossible to add on lean muscle if you're already cut and at a certain weight.. the body is just not used to growing.. you have to force growth and CALORIES will allow you to do this...
02-21-2008 12:44 AM
If you have been cutting for a while then you will gain muscle quickly as you raise your calories. The best thing to do would be run a clean or dirty bulk for 12 weeks. Cut for 6 to 8 weeks, then run the other type of bulk for 12 weeks. Then you'll see which works best for you. It's not like you are going to retire after this bulk.
For me I know that clean bulking is most effective. I gain less fat and most importantly I have less cravings while cutting especially for a contest.
03-06-2008 01:00 AM
Genetics.......you either have it, or you don't......Sad but TRUE.....(metallica)
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03-13-2008 10:16 PM
i've doing a clean bulk since october and i have to say i'm extremly happy with the results.
no more putting on tons of fat just to cut it off later for me!
03-28-2008 01:33 AM
This is for Pantera, I toouse the muscle Juice and while using one ten pounder I have gained around two lbs lean and 3lbs fat. Not great but atleast I have gained the two pounds. I am a harsh ectomorph and I could lose those 3 lbs of fat in 3-5 days probably even less.
03-28-2008 05:23 AM
Some of you guys might already know but i went from 165-200 in 15 weeks. I ate fairly clean and only supplemented ON gold standard whey 3 shakes a day, and had LG Methyl 1-d for 2 weeks and a multi vitamin. Food wise it was 6 weet bix for breakfast., snack on bananas and cream cheese portions and nuts, top quality rib fillet steak at least twice a week, chicken breast products baked not fried, 2 whole eggs in each shake in the last 5 weeks, pasta and lasagne salad and fibrous vegies. Lifting was free weights and compound exercises and i did the DC training for last 5 weeks. I believe a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle so overloaded with negs and forced reps all the time. Also get plenty of rest.
03-28-2008 07:11 AM
I can loose fat quickly too.Sometimes I just start eating clean more often to loose a little fat.Not trying to get ripped or anything,just make the love handles a little smaller.I bought a blender and I make my shakes now.Much better option!
Originally Posted by ChrisSanderso
06-26-2008 04:15 PM
I'd go with the clean bulk, but I dislike using the word "bulk" in general. I think it's pretty easy to maintain steady eating habits throughout the whole year without having to cut at the end of the year, while making substantial strides in body composition. Upping calories part of the year doesn't seem necessary to me.
06-26-2008 11:39 PM
Ur right, for the life of me I can't get my legs to catch up to my upper body. I may have to cycle.
Originally Posted by TripDog
06-26-2008 11:48 PM
I have switched to clean food now.I have been cutting though,so I haven't bulked clean,but I plan too soon!I look better due to less fat,and my BP has come down.I just hope I can eat enough clean bland food to overcome my incredibly overely revved metabolism and put on some size!!!I have also learned from cutting that I have been eating way too many carbs while bulking.That should help keep me leaner as well.
06-27-2008 05:55 AM
i want to build increase muscle and size. Is there any steriod alternative apart from steriods which will give me results??
06-27-2008 09:38 AM
Dirty bulk is a sure fire way to get fat period.....
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