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I'm one week into my heavy bulk and this is becoming annoying. After I get done eating my normal meal, 6oz chicken, 1/2 cup brown rice, 1 1/2t Olive Oil with 6gr Fish Oil I'm pretty full. Then about hmmm 25-45minutes later I feel like I haven't eaten in 5 hours. I would love to eat again :food: but if I eat too much Im afraid I'll put on too much fat. :donut:

Is my body trying to tell me something? Should I try eating another small meal?

I'm about 5'9" at between 185-190lbs and 11-12%BF. I'm eating about 3500cals a day at a 30/50/20split (p/c/f)
 
i think it's just a mental thing you're experiencing. if you have a full meal with the appropriate macronutrients, you shouldn't be "starving" again 30 min later. just don't think about food. think of it this way: the satisfaction you feel from looking good in the mirror will far surpass the feeling of taking in those unnecessary cals and overeating.

sip on some BCAAs if you're really that hungry. are you on anything right now that would increase your appetite?
 
i think it's just a mental thing you're experiencing. if you have a full meal with the appropriate macronutrients, you shouldn't be "starving" again 30 min later. just don't think about food. think of it this way: the satisfaction you feel from looking good in the mirror will far surpass the feeling of taking in those unnecessary cals and overeating.

sip on some BCAAs if you're really that hungry. are you on anything right now that would increase your appetite?

LOL, yea.....Superdrol
 
LOL, yea.....Superdrol

hahaha damn man, well that changes everything. superdrol is a glycogen vacuum, so it's no surprise that you're feeling hungry. but i still say it's mental if you're THAT hungry so soon after eating a full meal.

up your carbs with each meal. increase your other macros as well. you may not be eating enough with each meal.
 
That happens to me too, but the second I take a bite I'm full again.

BTW, I don't think you should be worrying about fat gain while on Superdrol. Half the fun of being on a cycle is being able to eat whatever you want and still stay lean.
 
What do you mean by "normal" in this sentence? This is what you eat normally at each and every meal?

Where is this meal in relation to your weight or cardio sessions?

Yes, meals 4,5,6 are the same thing. I didn't lift yesterday so meal 3,4,5,6 are the same. It doesn't matter, 45minutes after breakfast my stomach is screaming for more food. I dont wake up hungry but as soon as I get food in me, my body keeps wanting more and more.

I did fill up the other day for a while but I ate ~800cals (55/110/20) at one sitting and I dont know if I want to do that.

*I'd also like to note Im drinking about 1.5~2gal of H2O/day
 
Well... It would alter the macro ratios, but I'd up the serving of brown rice and the serving of brocolli at the expense of (some of) the Olive Oil. The fiber and extra CHO should assist in satiation. Then add the Olive Oil back in if you are gaining at an acceptable rate.
 
Well... It would alter the macro ratios, but I'd up the serving of brown rice and the serving of brocolli at the expense of (some of) the Olive Oil. The fiber and extra CHO should assist in satiation. Then add the Olive Oil back in if you are gaining at an acceptable rate.

Yea I was just thinking of doing that. I'm forgetting im takeing 6gr of fish oil with 5 of my meals (30gr/day). So i'm getting fat from a good source with each meal.

I'll shoot for 600gr of carbs a day from now on :blink: then my 300gr of protein and 30gr of fish oil then fat from meats and eggs puts me at about the 4,000 mark. Good lord
 
Ok, from what I see here the superdrol is lowering your Blood sugar very quickly.

Normally rice (brown to a lesser extent than rice) raises, then drops your blood sugar rather quickly, leaving you sometimes feeling drowsy and hungry 1 hour post meal.

With superdrol it lowers your Blood sugar much faster than norm, so you may be overly sensitive to the blood sugar rollercoaster from the rice.

I would try a baked potato or something other than pasta or rice for a day or too and see if that helps.

:)

Other than that, eat like a horse, or eat a horse...eitherway you wont get fat. :p
 
Ok, from what I see here the superdrol is lowering your Blood sugar very quickly.

Normally rice (brown to a lesser extent than rice) raises, then drops your blood sugar rather quickly, leaving you sometimes feeling drowsy and hungry 1 hour post meal.

With superdrol it lowers your Blood sugar much faster than norm, so you may be overly sensitive to the blood sugar rollercoaster from the rice.

I would try a baked potato or something other than pasta or rice for a day or too and see if that helps.

:)

Other than that, eat like a horse, or eat a horse...eitherway you wont get fat. :p


How would eating a baked potato help? I'm not argueing just wondering.

I'm probably going to have one 2nite with dinner just for s h i t s and giggles. I bumped the carbs up by about 25gr each meal and it seems to have helped 2day. Weight is WAAAAY up on the scales as of 2day. I have a constant full upper body pump all day long. I dont think my waist is up any, but I always feel bloated. I'll check the measurements in the morning.
 
The Baked Potato (skin included) takes a little longer to digest. Although it quickly turns to glucose when it hits your tongue, it doesn't provide such large spikes in blood sugar as rice can.

I think SD increases insulin sensitivity (don't quote me on that), and those of us already sensitive to insulin (most young people w/ out diabetes) can be particularly affected by starchy foods.

For example when I have rice, 1 - 2 hours later I feel incredibly hungry (like I hadn't eaten in 6 hours) and slightly drowsy.

See if it works for you. Otherwise just eat ... eat and eat.
 
The Baked Potato (skin included) takes a little longer to digest. Although it quickly turns to glucose when it hits your tongue, it doesn't provide such large spikes in blood sugar as rice can.

I think superdrol increases insulin sensitivity (don't quote me on that), and those of us already sensitive to insulin (most young people w/ out diabetes) can be particularly affected by starchy foods.

For example when I have rice, 1 - 2 hours later I feel incredibly hungry (like I hadn't eaten in 6 hours) and slightly drowsy.

See if it works for you. Otherwise just eat ... eat and eat.

See I thought long grain brown rice was easy on blood sugar? I dont feel drowsy or anything like that just hungry as hell.
 
The Baked Potato (skin included) takes a little longer to digest. Although it quickly turns to glucose when it hits your tongue, it doesn't provide such large spikes in blood sugar as rice can.
Wrong! The Glycemic Index (GI) for brown rice is much lower than a baked potato (though only slightly lower than a boiled potato.) So brown rice would be a better selection. Alternatively, you could have a yam which has a GI comperatble to brown rice.

Ok, from what I see here the superdrol is lowering your Blood sugar very quickly.
Are you just conjecturing here or do you have proof of this? If you have proof, please cite a reference. If not, please don't post conjecture as fact.
 
Wrong! The Glycemic Index (GI) for brown rice is much lower than a baked potato (though only slightly lower than a boiled potato.) So brown rice would be a better selection. Alternatively, you could have a yam which has a GI comperatble to brown rice.


Are you just conjecturing here or do you have proof of this? If you have proof, please cite a reference. If not, please don't post conjecture as fact.

Ok I ought to kick your lame butt for that post but ill rise above it.

But I do belive you forgot to quote the part where I said "don't quote me on it" but I think most will agree that if you don't eat enough on superdrol you will get hypoglycemic depending on dose which would lead one to assume that it has an effect on blood sugar- no?!

Oh and as for brown rice, yes it is affects blood sugar levels slower yes, but dude seriously this guy is cycling and his bod requires a lot of carbs. My PERSONAL experience on this is that rice brown or white causes higher fluctuations in blood sugar. So my advice to him was to try a baked potato (with the skin) and someone suggested vegetables which will keep his blood sugar and digestion rate steady.

Again my PERSONAL suggestion based on MY OWN experience.

So please don't come in here and half edit what I said in a quote, I really don't appreciate that blatent disrespect.

And yes superdrol does effect blood sugar. Do a forum search, plenty of info on it.

And here's a small quote from someone (not mentioning any names as requested by them) who is VERY much respected by the supplement community, to get you started:

" 30 mg of SD is not toxic EOD either if you can handle the hypo, must guys can. Lipid will stay good pulsing."

Hmm hypo, could it be that it affects blood sugar?!!

Again please research before crossing my path again it will help improve your credibility.

Sorry if this sounds rude but I hate it when someone calls my verified statement about SD "conjecture as fact"without bothering to research.

Your appology is accepted.

Oh and distilled what's your meal protein intake like?
 
My PERSONAL experience on this is that rice brown or white causes higher fluctuations in blood sugar.
This is just plain wrong. Brown and white rice are totally different animals. In the heirarchy of the GI, white rice is higher than brown rice by a significant margin. White rice is much closer to a simple CHO and brown is way more complex. You appear to be placing these two in the same category.

And here's a small quote from someone (not mentioning any names as requested by them) who is VERY much respected by the supplement community, to get you started:

" 30 mg of superdrol is not toxic EOD either if you can handle the hypo, must guys can. Lipid will stay good pulsing."
This makes no sense in relation to what you are discussing and the sentence seems to be out of context. This sentence is discussing toxicity and relation to post lipid panels rather than the direct impact to blood sugar levels. By inference, this seems to be saying that if you CAN'T handle the hypo then it is toxic? And again, where's the data?


Why is it that those who are taken to task to support their argument, when, in the lack of the ability to cite valid data, resort to "Well, I should really kick your A$$, but I'm going to rise above it"?
 
1.) The body grows in 'spurts', or cycles. You will go a few months without gaining then GAIN right away. Take advantage of that time.

2.) Keep eating and take advantage of it. Thats the only way I can gain weight!

3.) Eat healthy train hard and dont worry about fat gain!
 
This is just plain wrong. Brown and white rice are totally different animals. In the heirarchy of the GI, white rice is higher than brown rice by a significant margin. White rice is much closer to a simple CHO and brown is way more complex. You appear to be placing these two in the same category.


This makes no sense in relation to what you are discussing and the sentence seems to be out of context. This sentence is discussing toxicity and relation to post lipid panels rather than the direct impact to blood sugar levels. By inference, this seems to be saying that if you CAN'T handle the hypo then it is toxic? And again, where's the data?


Why is it that those who are taken to task to support their argument, when, in the lack of the ability to cite valid data, resort to "Well, I should really kick your A$$, but I'm going to rise above it"?

1) Ok FIRST of all, I said "kick your butt", again another mis-quote by yourself. A$$ is more hostile than butt, so again i do love it when you edit my quote. Butt kicking was due to editing my quotes, and I still stand firm on that argument.

2) Brown rice and white rice are not animals (obviously you know this, but when you get to mis-quote and make my posting look stupid, i dont care) and white rice is usually derived from brown rice, with the husk removed during milling.

So again - same "animal". Secondly, both white and brown contain roughly the same amount of carbs per cup, with the exception that white is much easily digested and has less nutrients than brown.

My suggestion to him, was to try a baked potato (with the skin), which is higher on the GI index, but if correctly loaded with tuna, etc can fill him up longer than brown rice IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!!!!! < emphasis

I did not in anyway dispute the GI index.

3) SD and its effect on blood sugar. Everyone knows that SD is a glycogen monster eater, and hers some homework for you to read on which would back up this statement.

i) Invalid Link Removed

ii) Invalid Link Removed (user had problems with nausea during workout )

iii) And that quote "" 30 mg of superdrol is not toxic EOD either if you can handle the hypo, must guys can. Lipid will stay good pulsing." Was an all round reference of SD, which mentions hypo as a major factor due to the SDs glocogen vacuum effect. This quote was by a major member of this board, who I will not name in light of recent events and due to their wishes. If you wish to tell them in your post that SD doesnt affect blood sugar and that they known nothing, in invite you to do it.

There are plenty of references that point to a more than likely correlation between SD and blood glycose levels. Without any scientific papers to hand, I cannot 99% verify that SD effects blood sugar. However, based on user experience and input from reputable industry members, it is highly likely that SD affects your blood glucose levels.

Please stop wasting my time here, and give the guy some helpful advice instead of bashing already known facts. If you have evidence SD doesnt effect blood gucose levels (posting a 2005 writeup really doesnt cut it anymore so dont try it as a reference - to save your credibility) then please, do share it with us.

As for distilled, I really dont think there is anything wrong with your diet at this point. As I did mention earlier (and you are free to research on this) SD does effect your blood sugar levels and is a glycogen monster, so as long as you keep your diet clean, I see no reason why you cannot eat when you feel hungry. To be frank with you, the hunger pangs on SD are normal as you can find on a lot of threads across the board.

However if Tbone is correct, you should be no more hungry on SD than you normally are.
 
Well I think I found a way to beat it. I just eat about every hour to hour and a half. Not counting pre and post-workout and before bed meals, I'm doing 6-7 meals of 25-35gr protein 40-50gr carbs and 5-10gr fat. This seems to work best as I never really get hungry and never really get full. Just an even keel all day.

It's somewhat of a pain washing out all this tup-a-ware and eating all the damn time but def worth not going crazy with hunger.
 
There yah go. For me some meals are much more filling and last longer.

For example, my schedule is set up so that I have to wait 4 hours after lunch to eat again. The only way I can do this is by eating a bowl of whole wheat spaghetti made with lean ground beef. Its a heavy meal and will keep me full.

When I get home, I still have three meals to go, so my pre-dinner is something that passes through quick like shrimp'n'grits. I'm always hungry like 1:00 later.

Maybe you just need to experiment more with the foods you choose. Anywho, I'd much rather be overly hungry on a bulk than overstuffed.
 
It's somewhat of a pain washing out all this tup-a-ware and eating all the damn time but def worth not going crazy with hunger.

lol know how you feel man, really i do.

Glad you found a solution. As long as you eat clean, i really dont think you will gain any unwanted fat while on SD.
 
lol know how you feel man, really i do.

Glad you found a solution. As long as you eat clean, i really dont think you will gain any unwanted fat while on superdrol.

I have also found that I constantly feel pumped eating like this. The other way I'd feel pumped about 12-20minutes after I was done eating and It'd fade about 30-45minutes before my next meal.
 
An update guys. This is also allowing me to hit 600gr...yes 600gr of carbs/day and in turn is making it alot easier to get my 4,250cals/day. I haven't added even a 1/4" to my waist yet and Im up 12lbs since I've started.....my um.....stuff :lol: and I still have 2 weeks left.

Thanks for all the help guys. I'll rep you when I can!!!!
 
An update guys. This is also allowing me to hit 600gr...yes 600gr of carbs/day and in turn is making it alot easier to get my 4,250cals/day. I haven't added even a 1/4" to my waist yet and Im up 12lbs since I've started.....my um.....stuff :lol: and I still have 2 weeks left.

Thanks for all the help guys. I'll rep you when I can!!!!

Nice work! :) Looking good :)
 
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