[kidracer69]

Hey guys lets help each other out.


In highschool I was 85 lbs my freshman year and 120 my senior year. (quick run-through of myself)

I'm going on 23. I weigh 150, 5' 8"

Sept 05 to Feb 06 I put on 30lbs. I was deployed and had the chow hall to provide me with food.- paid for and plenty of it.

My diet was eat everything to get big. I found a site called skinnyguys.com or something which taught me a lot of techniques ectomorphs need to do to put on mass.

For the first month all I did was eat, workout, and take protein.
I deployed weighting 150 and after the first month or so I was 160. I was taking in 3000+ calories and 250+ g protein. (cytogainer/enlarge 600cal/25protein per serving) I think I took 2-3 a day on top of 2 meals.
My philosophy was- its better to overshoot than undershoot. Plus being skinny I needed to up my calories.

After the first month I took methyl 1a w/ methyl masterdrol. i took some formadrol later and never felt any real side effects that kept me worrying. I shot up to 170 and stayed there until June.


However, after coming home I stopped working out completely and lost everything. Although I lost it all, I do notice I am still bigger than the beginning of deployement so I know I did manage to put on some lean mass. But all in all a lot of it was fat. I went from a size 29/30 to 32/33

I'm deployed again so I'm just figuing out ways to tweak my old plan and make it more effective.

I do plan to take maybe methyl 1a (still have one bottle) 1d, or superdrol and im currently looking at pct for it but nothing legal exists that can replace a serm.

Also my goals of just being big have changed and I want to be more lean and cut now but still have a bit of mass on me.

(It was nice being able to fit shirts, but as I lost the weight it was nice to see some more definition.)

My plan is to tweak my old way and bulk up to about 170, then change my diet and workout routine and go from there. I want to make my new routine something simple where I can still do it with my busy schedule back home. Its easy to do it here since theres nothing to worry about.)

I have a lot more to write but there are time restraints over here . I also appologize got the grammar mistakes and lack of organization.Feel free to chime in and leave comments. Thank you.

[KingMeso]

It's all about metabolism. I was/is an super ectomorph. Bulked (pretty clean) to try to put on any weight. Years later, I feel like an endomorph, being able to put on weight super easy. I now have incorporated cardio whether I'm cutting or bulking.

Not ever have been deployed, I don't know how much or what you have access to. If you can, I would do a really clean bulk (50/30/20 ratio) w/ moderate cardio when you feel necessary.

[kidracer69]

It will be very hard to do a clean bulk. I just can't pack on weight without just stuffing myself with calories.

What do you mean 50/30/20?

[RoidRageX10]

Originally Posted by kidracer69

It will be very hard to do a clean bulk. I just can't pack on weight without just stuffing myself with calories.

What do you mean 50/30/20?

break down of total calories consumed.

50% from Protein
30% from Carbohydrates
20% from Fats

[KingMeso]

Originally Posted by kidracer69

It will be very hard to do a clean bulk. I just can't pack on weight without just stuffing myself with calories.

What do you mean 50/30/20?

Well, in that case, just keep an eye on your bodyfat and possibly up the cardio.

[kidracer69]

How bout if I just bulk even if its dirty and put on 20 lbs again, and through my natual ability to lose weight use it to my advantage to cut the fat that I put on until I am satisfied with my look?

150lbs + 20 lbs and then cut about 10lbs of fat. Can that work?

[CaponeCEO]

Originally Posted by kidracer69

How bout if I just bulk even if its dirty and put on 20 lbs again, and through my natual ability to lose weight use it to my advantage to cut the fat that I put on until I am satisfied with my look?

150lbs + 20 lbs and then cut about 10lbs of fat. Can that work?

Im an ectomorph as well, and graduated high school around 120lbs too. Over the years since I graduated I have been hitting the gym in a serious fashion and now I am around 170 during buking and 165 after some weeks of cardio/cutting. I havent ever touched a Methyl. What I have noticed is that once you put on some belly fat...its very hard to lose it..mainly because your stomach will always have that rounded appearance due to the amount of food you need to consume. I would start with as healthy of a bulk as you can possibly do and just go with it. Some junk food on occasion is ok. Dont aim to dirty bulk and then think you can just trim 15lbs of fat off. Not to mention that as an ectomorph you have a smaller frame and nothing was worse then seeing myself with stomach fat yet having a smaller sized frame. It was like being a skinny fat kid. The only supplements that I have ever found to work for me are creatine, NO2, and lots of Protein...so if you can keep them as your base supplements I would advise it.

[kidracer69]

I may have put on 20lbs and had a bit of stomach fat, but I was still very shapely. I still have v-shape just couldn't see my abs. I've never ever had a belly/gut even after bulking. It's only because I'm like that do I ask about dirty bulking.

[Hollidae]

skinnyguys.com???

[lilGiant]

DO not Bulk w/ bad food no matter what you do. Try to keep it as clean as possible to keep your gains as lean as possible. Also, things such as fried foods and fatty (saturated) food sources can actually slow down the muscle buildign process. of course, wings and beer in the off season is ok every once in a GREAT while.

Also, i am an ectomorph. You must eat a lot of clean food!

[kakemix007]

Back in April of this year i weighed 159 lbs fully clothed... and now im 195 with just shoes on. I got to about 185 then i ran Havoc recently and that got me to 195. I eat the same thing pretty much every day:

Meal (Time) Calories Carbs(g) Fats(g) Protein(g)
8:30am
On Whey Shake (x2) 240 6 2 48
Yogurt 240 45 2.5 10
Totals this meal: 480 51 4.5 58

11:30am
Chicken Breast 140 1 2.5 28
ON Whey Shake 120 3 1 24
Yogurt 240 45 2.5 10
Totals this meal: 500 49 6 62

2:30pm
On Whey Shake (x2) 240 6 2 48
Brown Rice 340 70 2 8
Yogurt 240 45 2.5 10
Totals this meal: 820 121 6.5 66

5-5:30pm
Chicken Breast 140 1 2.5 28
ON Whey Shake 120 3 1 24
Yogurt 240 45 2.5 10
Totals this meal: 500 49 6 62

45min - 1hr after workout (or 8:30 non workout days)
N-Large Shake 600 86 5 52
Yogurt 240 45 2.5 10
Carbo Force** 410 110
Totals this meal: 840 131 7.5 62

ON Casen(11:30pm/Bed) 110 3 0.5 24

TOTALS 3250 404 31 334
Workout Day Totals: 3690(carbo) 514(carbo) 31 334

** = Only on workout days

of course i eat veggies and oatmeal when ever i get hungry but this is basically what i have followed.