Football Bulk

Pdavis · 03-30-2007, 12:35 AM

I'm 16 and im going to be a Senior next year. My goal is to be 225 come next season. So far ive gone from 160 to 200 (used to wrestle).

Can anyone help me out by giving me some workout tips to build mass but also keep my quickness. I dont want to get too big and be slow.

Chad · 03-30-2007, 01:37 AM

what postion do you play?

Pdavis · 03-30-2007, 10:55 PM

i play middle linebacker

Chad · 03-31-2007, 12:59 AM

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i play middle linebacker

cool. i played FS. anyways what is your training like right now?

Chad · 03-31-2007, 01:01 AM

i would do heavy sets for like 6 reps and do sets of sprints to keep those fast twitch calfs and quads in speed shape.

Pdavis · 03-31-2007, 01:03 AM

Right now im doing the Cal workout, a lot of olympic lifts. Not too much running yet.

-Front Squats/Back Squats
-Power Cleans
-Clean and Jerks
-Snatch Cleans ect...

I just want to know what i should be doing to get BIG and what i should be taking to get there

Rodja · 03-31-2007, 01:07 AM

Deadlifts need to be in there and just make sure to eat quality foods. The only supplemeny you may want to use is a protein powder and creatine.

Pdavis · 03-31-2007, 01:10 AM

Yea i forgot to mention deadlifts.

My goal is to get to 225 come next year, gotta impress the scouts.

Rodja · 03-31-2007, 01:11 AM

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Yea i forgot to mention deadlifts.

My goal is to get to 225 come next year, gotta impress the scouts.

You should worry more about applicable mass than just a raw number. You will get bigger and stronger as long as you are consistent and eat enough.

Chad · 03-31-2007, 01:15 AM

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You should worry more about applicable mass than just a raw number. You will get bigger and stronger as long as you are consistent and eat enough.

Pdavis · 03-31-2007, 01:21 AM

thats true, ive been eating a lot

im used to cutting weight for wrestling so i feel bad, but at the same time i know i have to put in the calories in order to gain.

**Iron Warrior** · 03-31-2007, 02:07 AM

If you really want to excell in football then I'd drop wrestling, or wrestle at a much higher weight. Wrestling is good for training you to use leverage on the field but if it's at the expense of weighing 160 then it's not worth it IMO.

Home made weight gainers are a great tool. Mix 2 scoops of whey, 1-1.5 cups of oats and throw some natty peanut butter.

**OCCFan023** · 03-31-2007, 11:31 AM

Agree with all the above. Lifts look good but just curiouse do you have a breakdown of workouts that you use on specific days (like how many days and what you do on each day?) Really go all out on your legs (I know youll be working out hard on everything but your legs should be your strongest point.)

As for eating theres alot of threads in the bulking section that will help you out and all I can advise is formulate a meal/cal layout on FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and post it up on here so we can critique it and offer advice.

And as for supplements there isnt really anything you need to take except multis, protein powder, and maybe creatine (and depending on where your from even be careful with that, Im from NJ and they implemented the steroid testing policy so just in case your from NJ~ also texas will be passing into effect shortly)

Side Notes: Like mentioned before and probably will again eat like a horse (clean of course), train hard, sleep as much as possible, and stay away from the boos as much as possible, and SET GOALS and track your gains.

Best of luck man and if you give it 100% theres no reason why you shouldnt reach and or surpass your goals.

**CRUNCH** · 03-31-2007, 12:22 PM

Props to you for doing all the olympic lifts and deads. More HS strength coaches need to be teaching those (and properly!). The local HS coach here still has his kids benching 3x's per week and NO olympic lifts. Idiot.

The kids come to me all summer for programs, then the coach gets pissed at them for not doing his program. I just don't get it.

**Iron Warrior** · 03-31-2007, 12:33 PM

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Props to you for doing all the olympic lifts and deads. More HS strength coaches need to be teaching those (and properly!). The local HS coach here still has his kids benching 3x's per week and NO olympic lifts. Idiot.

The kids come to me all summer for programs, then the coach gets pissed at them for not doing his program. I just don't get it.

Bro, I'm a high school coach myself (lots of fun by the way) and some head coaches I worked under have very archaic training methods to say the least. Some have a mentality that they have to workout harder DURING the season then they do in the off-season. Some have no clue on nutrition and sport specific training. Some still believe low intensity cardio is better then wind sprints and plyometrics LOL.

**CRUNCH** · 03-31-2007, 12:41 PM

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Bro, I'm a high school coach myself (lots of fun by the way) and some head coaches I worked under have very archaic training methods to say the least. Some have a mentality that they have to workout harder DURING the season then they do in the off-season. Some have no clue on nutrition and sport specific training. Some still believe low intensity cardio is better then wind sprints and plyometrics LOL.

Every bad thing you just mentioned describes the local coach to a "T".

Vicarious · 03-31-2007, 01:29 PM

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-Front Squats/Back Squats
-Power Cleans
-Clean and Jerks
-Snatch Cleans ect...

For middlebacker? your doing all you need! thats all any football player needs! awesome. Radja is right throw in deads and then focus on sprints. HITT concepts sound like a perfect addition.

Good job