[Zguy52]

Well I disagree, there are hot nice girls out there and how a guys looks does make a difference. I'm down from 275 to 250 from January 1 and added 4lbs LBM. I dress better and much more confidence. A girl I was interested in and hang around had not seen me for 2 months. We never dated but she was on the fence has now totally changed her atitude toward me so yes it can happen.

Fastest way to build muscle

Hypertrophy-Specific Nutrition™

HST great cause it's very simple, fast and strucutred.


Track Calories

FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal

It's free so use it! You don't know what your daily calories are unless you keep track.

Besides anabolic minds I also read

Testosterone Nation


For Nutrition

Dr. John Berardi, Ph.D.

Bodyrecomposition - Lyle McDonald

If you get anything from the T-nation/Berardi is nutrient timing to prevent muslceloss. Casien/whey protein blend specfically before bed, post workout 2:1 carb/protien with BCAA's (preferably maltdextrin/Whey).

Good luck, do what makes you happy.

[getreal]

Originally Posted by Zguy52

Well I disagree, there are hot nice girls out there and how a guys looks does make a difference. I'm down from 275 to 250 from January 1 and added 4lbs LBM. I dress better and much more confidence. A girl I was interested in and hang around had not seen me for 2 months. We never dated but she was on the fence has now totally changed her atitude toward me so yes it can happen.

Fastest way to build muscle

Hypertrophy-Specific Nutrition™

HST great cause it's very simple, fast and strucutred.


Track Calories

FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal

It's free so use it! You don't know what your daily calories are unless you keep track.

Besides anabolic minds I also read

Testosterone Nation


For Nutrition

Dr. John Berardi, Ph.D.

Bodyrecomposition - Lyle McDonald

If you get anything from the T-nation/Berardi is nutrient timing to prevent muslceloss. Casien/whey protein blend specfically before bed, post workout 2:1 carb/protien with BCAA's (preferably maltdextrin/Whey).

Good luck, do what makes you happy.

fitday's crap, doesn't calculate the foods i eat, wheres the sirloin steak?

[Son of Samura]

You might want to check out a site called skinnyguy.net
He has a program specifically designed for hardgainers. I tried his program a couple of years ago and put on 23lbs of lean muscle, I fell off the wagon for a while but I just started again a month ago and I've already put on 10lbs while dropping my BMI by %10. The program list what kind of foods to eat and has a workbook for a workout routine. Check it out, his program is not for everybody, but it worked for me.

[WillB123]

"need to impress the ex"....hahaha ****in hilarious - seriously though man, have fun - some good advice in this thread

[motiv8er]

Originally Posted by PumpingIron

trophy girls aren't all thier cracked up to be. believe me. after I made some bad mistakes in the past, I'll take an average looking girl with a great personality and intelligence any day of the week.

Amen to that. Slay a few models but wait for when their meds are outa whack. Can make lonely appealing. I will take an average looking woman with a pure heart anytime.

You show me a hot chick, and I can show you a guy tired of putting up with theit stuff.

[warnerve]

As everyone else said, just bump your calories up some; that'll help no matter what routine you are using. Just in case, you could also stuff some socks in the front of your underwear and wear really tight pants. Either way good luck, although I dunno how much help this will be unless you guys broke up because you didn't have enough LBM

[getreal]

Originally Posted by Son of Samura

You might want to check out a site called skinnyguy.net
He has a program specifically designed for hardgainers. I tried his program a couple of years ago and put on 23lbs of lean muscle, I fell off the wagon for a while but I just started again a month ago and I've already put on 10lbs while dropping my BMI by %10. The program list what kind of foods to eat and has a workbook for a workout routine. Check it out, his program is not for everybody, but it worked for me.

That guy's just another scammer, congrats for you though. He say's he was a hardgainer but he still had the ability to build muscle, he was just training wrong, he even states that he was training 6 days a week and he was copying all the pros out of the bb magazines, he deserved to fail for being stupid. Anyway if you look at his "before" pictures, you'll realize that his potential was always there, he was a meso-ectomorph, a true ectomorph hardgainer would not look like that in his before picture plus he is trying to sell you something, errrmm lets put 2+2 here.