Inmates Whats There Secret?
01-17-2007 02:34 AM
i could add to this statement but i wont for fear of a cortisol spike just thinking about it. Cortisol nightmare
Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
01-17-2007 02:43 AM
Well, I have to imagine that being in prison is pretty stressful....so we can probably throw cortisol aside as an issue.
01-17-2007 04:03 AM
I read a book about a well known inmate who said that this particular jail he was in do not let their inmates get as big as they did when he was there. Im no rocket scientist, but if I were to run a jail, I wouldnt let inmates touch any weights....thats just asking for trouble. They could always just give them cardio epuipment for excercise.
I think that the whole "primal" trying to survive thing has a lot to do with how big they get. You dont train as hard as you do when youve got "Big Bruce" giving you death stares from accross the gym area. Ive been in a situation where I felt my life was threatened, and I have never made gains like that in my life. People thought I was on gear.
01-17-2007 02:04 PM
when i was locked up in Los Angeles County Jail they dont let u workout for shiet....we would get smashed on by the guards if we were even doing push ups....we used to roll up our lil 2 inch mattress and tie it up with our bed sheets then curl it..other then that as far as Southern Cali goes...good luck trying to workout in County..dont know about upstate though..i heard they took all the weights out..i could be wrong though
01-20-2007 08:14 PM
WOW!! didnt expect all that lol i guess there isnt just one answer on how they get that big, but it was all very interesting!!!
01-20-2007 10:04 PM
There have been studies on inmates, behavior and possible physiological reasons for certain trends in adverse behavior. These studies showed that a large percentage of incarcerated persons showed high levels of free testosterone in blood tests. It seems that people who are prone to risky behavior tend to have higher levels of testosterone and subsequently higher levels of estrogen due to aromatization. Estrogen has a high affinity in the nervous system and can influence behavior.
Originally Posted by jon1169
Unfortunately these people are getting scooped up by the cops and not by Olympic coaches. I believe if greater importance was put on physical education from the moment a child enters school, this might lead to a more balanced individual.
Exercise is vital in human development. Movement aids in the development of our sense organs. Studies are showing that children's sight and hearing is worsening. This is theorized to occur from a lack of physical movement during adolescence, attributed to video games, TV and computers.
01-20-2007 10:10 PM
I agree about the direct realtion of the incarcerated ad test levels. This opens many physical doors interms of gaining weight in less than ideal circumstances.
Originally Posted by milo23
Other things to consider lack of temptation of alcohol and drugs, consistency (the most important IMO), adequate rest, motivation.
01-21-2007 02:50 AM
Maybe it's a matter of perception and criminal specialities related to bodytype.
You see the Endomorphic and Mesomorphic guys on camera, those who get big easily, while the Ectomorphic prags are doing their laundry or are more cerebal and gravitate to less often convicted white collar crimes.
I'm half joking here.
Different state have different policies on weightlifting, Georgia, for one, it's not allowed. Most prisons serve too many carbs and not enough protein, but prisoners can supplement their diets from the commissary.
Even in states without weightrooms and the typically set crap diet, an Endo/Meso can get big with bodywork or improvised equipment.
01-21-2007 10:09 AM
Originally Posted by DazzlinJack
damn that was hard to read
01-21-2007 10:38 AM
still not sure how you did manage to read that, lol
Originally Posted by mpkonig
01-21-2007 11:40 AM
You need to read it in the tone of a PCP addict.
01-21-2007 01:51 PM
It is easier to get gear on the inside than it is on the outside. Inmates have limited access to how many diff. types of food they can eat. However they can eat very healthy while locked up. Allot of them look ripped due to they exercise all day
01-21-2007 01:54 PM
I'm wondering if a good portion of it has to do with simplicity. Do most of us overcomplicate weightlifting?
01-21-2007 03:13 PM
Not at all, look at all the supps wich can help us and Hypertrophy Specific Training.
Originally Posted by Alexander
It might also be due to criminals being big in the 1st place.
I used to work(legit job ) with an ex stand over man, who did time, and apparently when he was at his biggest wich was before jail, he could bend stop signs.
Also my mate was doing work at one of the worst jails in Australia recently and I asked him if heaps of the guys were big and he said no.
Last edited by ItsHectic; 01-21-2007 at 03:46 PM.
01-21-2007 03:50 PM
I absolutely agree. We like to discuss the little things because they're interesting. Supps can help and they are fun and some are good for long term health, but they don't amount to **** compared to food & sleep. Sure our training on average is better than an inmates, but they're still adding weight to the bar. Consistent food + consistent heavy lifting = growth.
Originally Posted by Alexander
Plus, they're probably not as concerned with a little fat gain as most of us are.
01-21-2007 04:56 PM
I've always wondered about this before. Glad I finally got to read some answers to it. I do have to say that most of it probably does come from the attitude of "train like your life depends on it."
01-21-2007 06:39 PM
Running with the Big Boys
I agree with grear probably beeing easier to get inside than out. 3 prison gaurds work out at my gym.....now i dont know 100% but its somewhat obvious they are on somthing other than a multi-vitamin. I talk to 2 of the 3 on a regular basis and the lifestyle they live and that they have I dont think they could have on a gaurds salary. So makeing a quick buck from selling some gear to inmates isn't really outta this world. I also could be completely off here but im just throwing it out there.
01-21-2007 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Distilled Water
One thing the guards are paid very well. They make about $65,000 without overtime a year after about 5 years. Plus clothing allowance a grand a year and the best benefits. After 20 years you can retire with half your pay. They all put in much overtime. They bring home over a hundred grand a year with all the overtime. Regardless they go after the easy money anyway. The gang members and drug dealers have alot of money. They'll pay whatever it takes to get with they want. Cellular phones is very big inside. The salary I quoted is New York by the way.
01-21-2007 09:40 PM
Originally Posted by Moyer
I think that is a good and overlooked point.
01-21-2007 11:55 PM
Even in juvenile hall you can make good dough. My cousin cleared 100K working 55 hours a week and he's been there 3 years.
Originally Posted by angelo212
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