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Esterified Creatine or Regular Creatine?

  1.  02-25-2007  10:14 PM
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    Originally Posted by Fun2Train View Post
    Iv always used just regular old Creatine and iv been happy with the results but Iv heard lately how the new Esterified Creatine Malate is suppose to be better and you dont have to load up on it, anyone have any opinions or suggestions on this? I would greatly appreciate any info or tips.
    He is passed the entry stage, not just starting out. He asked for advice on esterfied which we both granted him and THATS ALL FOLKS!!!!



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    I take both... I take esterfied pre-workout and mono postworkout in a shake with a carb post-workout...

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    Anyone care to post some science/research behind the proven effectiveness of attaching ethyl esters??

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    Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Anyone care to post some science/research behind the proven effectiveness of attaching ethyl esters??
    Sh*t, I would PAY to see that.
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    Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Sh*t, I would PAY to see that.
    Lol, we seem to be on the same page again about this whole creatine situation

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    What is this, the 3rd thread we've addressed this "Creatine Monohydrate is the only form PROVEN effective" issue? Great minds must think alike.
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    Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    What is this, the 3rd thread we've addressed this "Creatine Monohydrate is the only form PROVEN effective" issue?
    Yes..it's discouraging, but I do admit we make a pretty good team

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    Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Anyone care to post some science/research behind the proven effectiveness of attaching ethyl esters??
    Considering the science behind making creatine monohydrate itself, I doubt anyone could answer this one..

    I would like to know why anyone would think that the "ester" actually attaches when you have to, nevermind I'll wait to see if anyone can answer your question 'cause it's a good one..

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    Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    Considering the science behind making creatine monohydrate itself, I doubt anyone could answer this one..

    I would like to know why anyone would think that the "ester" actually attaches when you have to, nevermind I'll wait to see if anyone can answer your question 'cause it's a good one..
    I have a feeling we'll be waiting a while for this one


    To those who advocate the use of CEE: I have noticed that most of you dose around 5g. Well doesn't that completely contradict all of these claims that you need to use smaller doses?

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    Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    Considering the science behind making creatine monohydrate itself, I doubt anyone could answer this one..

    I would like to know why anyone would think that the "ester" actually attaches when you have to, nevermind I'll wait to see if anyone can answer your question 'cause it's a good one..
    Doesn't an ester *envelope* a molecule rather than attach to it?

    Just a guess.

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    Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    Doesn't an ester *envelope* a molecule rather than attach to it?

    Just a guess.
    In this situation the ester is actually attached to the creatine monohydrate, but I am uncertain if this is always the case when dealing with esters.

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    Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    Doesn't an ester *envelope* a molecule rather than attach to it?

    Just a guess.
    In CEE's case is it should just attach, but if you understand the reaction process it goes thru, it doesn't happen.. I've used CEE and liked it, but reading deeper and talking to formulators (since I plan to also have a product line) it's a flawed technology..

    It works, but what's the long-term?

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    Originally Posted by bigpetefox View Post
    In CEE's case is it should just attach, but if you understand the reaction process it goes thru, it doesn't happen.. I've used CEE and liked it, but reading deeper and talking to formulators (since I plan to also have a product line) it's a flawed technology..

    It works, but what's the long-term?
    Amen.

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