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Old 08-13-2006, 09:48 PM   #1
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Weight Gainers / Cholesterol

Why do most weight gainers contain rediculous amounts of cholesterol?

I know that cholesterol plays vital roles in the body including Test production, but amounts like 150mg+ per serving is friggin nuts. At what point does it become too much?

On a side note, how much total/saturated fat should be tolerated per serving during a bulk?

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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The cholesterol may actually be coming from the product's company that recommends you mixing it with milk. And it may be 2% or whole milk so that's gonna give lotsa fat and cholesterol. But it won't be much of a gainer if you mix it with plain water...
 
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Indeed, a lot of the cholesterol is coming from the milk however, some of the weight gainers contain 120-150mg of cholesterol even when mixed with water.

Another thing I noticed is the major differences in carb to protien ratios. I've seen weight gainers containing anywhere from 50mg-315mg of carbs.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a quality weight gainer with the right balance of carbs to protien?

Should I just find something with a good amount of carbs and just add it to my regular protein?
 
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Indeed, a lot of the cholesterol is coming from the milk however, some of the weight gainers contain 120-150mg of cholesterol even when mixed with water.

Another thing I noticed is the major differences in carb to protien ratios. I've seen weight gainers containing anywhere from 50mg-315mg of carbs.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a quality weight gainer with the right balance of carbs to protien?

Should I just find something with a good amount of carbs and just add it to my regular protein?

Anyone????
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:14 PM   #5
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.... Thanks for all the replies.

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I wouldnt worry about unless you have cholesteral problems....I have heard somewhere that dietary cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol, plus you most likley exercise alot if you use weight gainer.
 
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Does anyone have any suggestions for a quality weight gainer with the right balance of carbs to protien?

Should I just find something with a good amount of carbs and just add it to my regular protein?

Never used it but if I had to use a weight gainer Id probably try Cytosports Cytogainer (seems to have the best balance of protein and carbs without all the carbs being sugar)

Personally though I would reccomend making your own for both nutritional and $ reasons. Theres tons of great gainer recipes on here. Try blending Natty PB, milk (% up to you), protein powder, oats, cottage cheese, EVOO (depeding on time/use), anything like this and presto homeade weight gainer with stuff you KNOW AND WANT in it and a frction of the price
 



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Never used it but if I had to use a weight gainer Id probably try Cytosports Cytogainer (seems to have the best balance of protein and carbs without all the carbs being sugar)

Personally though I would reccomend making your own for both nutritional and $ reasons. Theres tons of great gainer recipes on here. Try blending Natty PB, milk (% up to you), protein powder, oats, cottage cheese, EVOO (depeding on time/use), anything like this and presto homeade weight gainer with stuff you KNOW AND WANT in it and a frction of the price
Agreed, store-bought gainers are the perfect recipe for fat-gain and/or diabetes. I'd stick with a whole-food based concoction like that described above.
 
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Re: Weight Gainers

Much thanks (OCC/Beo).

I too have never tried a pre mixed weight gainer and was thinking about it for certain times of the day when I can't access a kitchen, but now that u mention it.... it does make more sense to make my own.

Would you say that the carb to protein ratio should be equal for a post workout shake, or should the amount of carbs be greater?

THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING.
 
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I've gone carb-loco before and I really don't think it helps. I'd just go w/about 50g of each post workout (and pre). Try to stick with low-GI carbs, such as oatmeal or whole wheat bagels.
 
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I've gone carb-loco before and I really don't think it helps. I'd just go w/about 50g of each post workout (and pre). Try to stick with low-GI carbs, such as oatmeal or whole wheat bagels.

Much thanks bro.

Hope your enjoying your time away.... (if it ain't work related or jail time) ....
 
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Not jail, but it is work related. Plus, I'm just starting BJJ and Muay Thai, so time will be even shorter.
 
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I'm just starting BJJ and Muay Thai, so time will be even shorter.
That's great to here.

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Definitely make your own. There are ton of threads on shake recipes. This is the shake that I drink in the morning if you want to make your own. Please note however that I'm a hardgainer. I weigh about 160lbs and need 4000 calories per workout day and 3500 on nonworkout days to gain about 1lb a week. So you'll probably have to change the ratios to fit your caloric requirements.

2 cups mixed berries
1 cup raw oats
1 scoop ON 100% Whey
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2 cups skim milk
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This is the shake that I drink in the morning if you want to make your own.

Thank you for your example.
 
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1 scoop ON 100% Whey
can you elaborate on this ingredient? what is it exactly?
 
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its Optimum Nutrition's 100% whey protein...

on another note, is BSN's True Mass good in any of your experiences?
 
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Aztec,

thank you for your reply.
i wonder if what bearmeat has recommended is good for people with higher than average cholestrol.

I also don't weigh much (160 lbs) but i would like to add some weight and muscle to my mass and i wonder if this shake is good.
 
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