how much protein does one need?
- 04-25-2006, 09:56 AM
- 04-25-2006, 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by wideguy
04-25-2006, 02:31 PM
Not trying to be a wisenheimer... but I would have to disagree with this - only from a "really depends on the person pov".
I have been in the game for 20 years as well - whether it was lifting, wrestling, baseball or football - and over that time I have tweaked my diet trying to find the best ratio to grow without getting fat.
I definitely found out that I could never grow on 1 g per lb. In fact the only time I grow is when I increase it to 1.8 g per lb. That ratio gives "me" the best results e.g. no increase in the waist measurement.
I also try to keep my real food to shake ration about 80 / 20. I find this to be what keeps my gut size in check.
just my $0.02
Originally Posted by njmuscle66
Last edited by Ronin13; 04-27-2006 at 11:09 PM.
04-25-2006, 03:49 PM
it really depends but most people seem to be agreeing that it's between 1g/lb-2g/lb.
Lately I've been taking in more than that and the fat has been rolling on, I'm pretty happy to say that was thanks to too much protein. I've changed it to 1.5g/lb and expect to see less fat build up
04-25-2006, 04:12 PM
04-25-2006, 04:21 PM
FYP. Do yourself a favor and actually click on the links I posted and read...Originally Posted by Mess
Bobo has guys gaining 2lbs a week. Instead of claiming it is from some secret method (which many trainers would do), he says straight up that the reason they can gain so fast is because they switched from eating a lot of powders to eating whole food.
04-25-2006, 04:34 PM
My opinion is that most 2g/lb guys fit into one of these 4 categories:
1. They don't really get 2g/lb, they just think they do.
2. When they up their protein, they don't cut back on carbs. They're increasing totol calories, which makes them grow.
3. They get 2g/lb, but most of it is from powder. They would gain just as well with less protein, but more whole food.
4. The guys that actually need more than 1g/lb. It's the smallest category. If it even exists, it probably doesn't include any ectos.
I'm just saying, if you don't get fat easily and you're getting 2g/lb, try 1.5g/lb and more carbs. It will save you money, you'll feel better, and I think you'll gain just as fast (if not faster).
04-25-2006, 04:46 PM
THis is a nice thread for me, I'm learning or at least hearing some new things. SO 1.8 -1.5 per lb of lean bodyweight would be ideal. Right? At least in most cases.
04-25-2006, 06:45 PM
04-26-2006, 01:32 AM
i can hear you moyer, but i'm just like the most of you, i have a family and a job to look after beside my thing (working out), and i cant get the 220gm -330gms of protien from real food the best i can do is 50/50, now my question is does the powder do the Job or no i mean does it contribute in recovering & building muscles as a result of intense resistance training ?
04-26-2006, 09:32 AM
Definitely good points but we could elaborate further:
category 1 - it is pretty much their own fault for estimating. It is not terribly difficult to track.... fitday is amazingly easy and a scale is pretty cheap
category 2 - this makes sense but how many really fall here.... so many people are falling into this "carb sense" trap they are afraid to eat more carbs....
category 3 - I think they would gain more as well and less of it would be fat... if they are eating clean and the ratios are appropriate
category 4 - I am sure it exists as I fell into this category for many years and I couldn't really grow until I increased my protein intake to 1.5 ~ 1.8g/lb (as well as increased my total calories by increasing my carbs as well)
Hope you don't mind me expanding here... Just feeling overly zealous with my $0.02 today...
Originally Posted by Moyer
04-26-2006, 10:28 AM
04-26-2006, 10:41 AM
04-26-2006, 11:14 AM
04-26-2006, 12:10 PM
wow forgot about this post .. i usually take in around 300g of protein a day at a weight of 204-206 and i grow just fine .. my carbs are around 350
04-26-2006, 12:57 PM
06-11-2006, 03:51 AM
6'3 188lbs 6.8% bf currently
cant seem to get higher than 190 and lower than 180 no matter what I do lol. Starving, Sickness, 4000+ calories... ahhhhh
Umm, protein-wise. Just a thought here. Why do you guys say per lb of bodyweight. We all know the total body isnt made of muscle. So why take in the extra protein for the fat as well?
06-11-2006, 02:37 PM
well, trench you have a point, but i do count the lean wieght only and there for feed it with necesary amount of protien
06-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Well remember that your protein intake isn't just for building muscle, it's for maintanence of your body plus I do believe it is the main activator of metabolism and gives off a thermo-effect in the process so not all the protein you take in is used for maintanence and repair.
06-11-2006, 04:49 PM
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