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    good shake post workout?


    Is this a good shake PWO for bulking?

    60g whey
    1 cup oats
    20g dextrose

    2 caps GLUCOPHASE XR
    5g CEE

    Thanks for any and all help

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    Looks good but you could probably ditch the dextrose with all those oats. A better way to go is pre AND post workout shake intake. I do 80 grams of whey, with one cup of oats...40 pre and 40 post workout.
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    I thought I read somewhere that it was good to take in twice the amount of sugars to protein so like 60g protein, 120g dextrose? I'm guessing this is totally wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Nothing
    I thought I read somewhere that it was good to take in twice the amount of sugars to protein so like 60g protein, 120g dextrose? I'm guessing this is totally wrong?

    Your on the right track. You want double the CARBS, not necesserally sugars.
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...hlight=glucose

    Read up, Bobo's the man when it comes to understanding this area.
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    if you search on here you'll find TONS of studying showing why low gi carbs are superior to high gi carbs both pre and post

    what i do both pre and post is
    1 thing of dannon light and fit yogurt, 1 cup water, 2 scoops whey, 1 cup oats blended together
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...hlight=glucose

    Read up, Bobo's the man when it comes to understanding this area.
    Thanks alot yall. I just signed up with him to help me cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Nothing
    Thanks alot yall. I just signed up with him to help me cut.

    you're money then .. you'll learn a ton about your body and dieting in general
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    I hope so, thats what I really need. I've had a subscription to Flex for a few years now and I try to follow what's in it about losing weight but I don't ever see the results I want
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    that's because flex is absolute garbage

    most muscle mags are .. although i enjoy reading MD and they publish a ton of studies .. you've gotta be careful when things are linked to "weight loss" because that doesn't differentiate between weight loss from burning fat or muscle or both
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    lol.

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    3 scoops of whey isolate (75grams)
    1 scoops of dextrose just becuase the store had it on discount section
    and 20oz of craneberry juice

    1 gram BCAA, 800mgs ALA, 1gm ginger root, potassium, mulitvit

    then I drive home and eat some junk ceral or drink some milk with olvatine
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger
    3 scoops of whey isolate (75grams)
    1 scoops of dextrose just becuase the store had it on discount section
    and 20oz of craneberry juice

    1 gram BCAA, 800mgs ALA, 1gm ginger root, potassium, mulitvit

    then I drive home and eat some junk ceral or drink some milk with olvatine
    What does your mid section look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger
    3 scoops of whey isolate (75grams)
    1 scoops of dextrose just becuase the store had it on discount section
    and 20oz of craneberry juice

    1 gram BCAA, 800mgs ALA, 1gm ginger root, potassium, mulitvit

    then I drive home and eat some junk ceral or drink some milk with olvatine
    Im guessing that this was just a play around???
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    i usually go for a simple one:
    1 cup of oats
    2 scoops of chocolate mint ON whey
    1 packet of honey
    12oz of skim milk
    follow all that with half a cup of cottage cheese. about an hour or so later i go for some chicken breast...
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    if you search on here you'll find TONS of studying showing why low gi carbs are superior to high gi carbs both pre and post

    what i do both pre and post is
    1 thing of dannon light and fit yogurt, 1 cup water, 2 scoops whey, 1 cup oats blended together
    Hell yeah that's exactly what I do - dannon light and fit is the ****, is it not? I like the strawberry!
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    What i do is ill have cup of cottage cheese, whole wheat bagel with FF spray butter, before my workout, and ill throw in some creatine methyl ester in there. After i usualy have like 50gs oats and like 40 somethin gs whey.
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    Pre - 1 sweet potato + 2 scoops of Primaforce WPI.

    during - 1 gatorade + 5 grams Prima. BCAA mixed in.

    Post - 5 grams BCAA + 1 gram NAC + 2 scoops ERgo GF Pro + banana + sweet potato.


    Should I keep the post sweet potato or switch to another form??? I am thinking it does not matter and the potato should stay.

    For breakfast I have 1 cups oats + 3 scoops of WPI +banana + 1 cup soy and rice milk +2 cups water in blender... mmmmmmmmmyummy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew69
    What does your mid section look like?
    about 1 weeks worth of diet to get a good 6-pack.

    One of those hand held BF testers puts me at 14% BF

    I've done this for at least 1.5 years now. They key for me is that I workout at lunch time. So that those fast carbs are mid day. And the rest of the day is either good carbs or no carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardknock
    Im guessing that this was just a play around???

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    nope.. done this for some time now. Its what DG (doggcrap) training style recommends.

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    asap post 25p/70cho(malt/dex), sip on 25p/30cho(malt/dex) for 30 min. solid food 30-45 min later. 50p/75oat shake 2.5 hrs later. bulking( whatever, just eating to grow), 6'1 230 12%.
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    NUMEROUS studies have shown time and again that complex carbs work JUST as well as simple carbs to replenish glycogen PWO .. simple carbs are just more likely to be stored as adipose fat .. FACT - there is no benefit to using simple carbs
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    If/when I workout in the evenings and have the time I do advise the use of complex carbs.

    But its much easier for me to mix, carry, and consume-- simple carbs via post workout.

    I do agree that too much simple carbs -will cause any extra to go straight to the abs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    if you search on here you'll find TONS of studying showing why low gi carbs are superior to high gi carbs both pre and post

    what i do both pre and post is
    1 thing of dannon light and fit yogurt, 1 cup water, 2 scoops whey, 1 cup oats blended together
    From my understanding of the research and opinions on the matter... Its not that low GI is better than high GI, its that it doesn't matter.

    Which then, if it does not matter, why take the risk of adipose storage with high HI.
    Last edited by houseman; 12-21-2005 at 10:03 AM.
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    that's a better way of phrasing it houseman
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    that's a better way of phrasing it houseman
    thanks, sir!
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    its just simple for me to mix up my shake with some juice and carry it to the gym.
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    I keep it pretty simple:

    - 2 packets instant oatmeal (simple + complex carbs)
    - 1 scoop whatever protein I'm using at the time (right now pro-complex)
    - then an hour later I'll usually have 2 97% fat free turkey burgers (45 g protein) and 1 bag frozen veggies

    After that I eat every 2 hours
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    pre 1 scoop substance w/ 1/2 C oats and 20 g dex
    post 1 1/2 scoops substance 1 C oats and a banana

    1 hour after usually some stirfry w/ pasta veggies and chicken. I dont know why but I need the post postworkout meal within 90 mins of my last shake or i get painfully nauseated. I used to attribute this to the simple carbs but I dont use nearly as many now as I did in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger
    its just simple for me to mix up my shake with some juice and carry it to the gym.
    No need to defend yourself. Some people can get away with it. I know I could pound donuts and brownies after my workouts and not gain too much fat. I've tried so many different concoctions with simple and complex carbs from all kinds of diffrent sources; believe it or not I haven't noticed a difference in any of them. BTW, how's the DC training going? It's my favorite way to train.
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    I tried DC training but without a partner is was hard to do. I went back to Yates style workouts.

    Even though I still throw in some 8 count negatives. And I follow DC post workout shakes. and deep streching.
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    You really don't need a partner. I do quite alright with DC by myself. Gotta love the deep stretching though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grmlock
    ...I dont know why but I need the post postworkout meal within 90 mins of my last shake ...
    No need to defend a post pwo meal. I do the same thing and keep it pretty clean and that meal seems to really boost my growth (given all other meals are in order of course).
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    Charger::

    I really meant the milk and olvatine...i dont think i would be able to stomach that olvatine and milk...im pretty predisposed to taking one(on the toilet) when mixing too many substances at once.
    For instance, i cant drink orange juice with anything, it'll tear my stomach up.
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    Charger::

    I really meant the milk and olvatine...i dont think i would be able to stomach that olvatine and milk...im pretty predisposed to taking one(on the toilet) when mixing too many substances at once.
    For instance, i cant drink orange juice with anything, it'll tear my stomach up.
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