[getswole]

Originally Posted by badbart

I voted 10 pounds or more, the only time I make gains is when I'm eating like a pig and getting fatter, bigger and stronger. I've tried clean bulking, cardio etc. to stay some what lean, but nothing worked, my gains were very small. Now I dirty bulk and I'm finally getting stronger and bigger but fat also follows. I figure I'll get 10 pounds above the weight I want to be at and cut, I can drop weight very easy I'm a hard gainer.

Thats pretty good advice...

[ReaperX]

When I first started cutting I started cutting at about 25% at my peak bulk. It kinda got outta hand and that's why I'm still cutting after 14 weeks...

[Magickk]

This really should be a 2 part poll or something... The first factor should be body type, and the second part should be what bf% imo.

I'm bulking now, in the past 1.5 month I dropped 15 lbs of fat and put on 5 lbs of muscle, then started the bulk I'm on. I'm getting WAAAY more vascular (might be the epi hehe ) but thats the way it always is and the only place I am visibly not as lean while cutting is my midsection, and this is obviously from pigging out and water retention. As long as I get 280g protein / day, I eat whatever else I want, mcdonald's, arby's, pizza, etc. But I also swim once a week, and run ~3 miles 3 times per week, sometimes jumprope or HIIT. It's not just about "getting big" with me; any moron can get big, I would only consider myself 'too big' if I started to lose athleticism / coordination due to being too fat... By next April I plan on having my 1.5 mile run time below 9:30, my bench above 315 for reps, and my bf% down to at least 10%... I'm at 14.5% currently so bring on the whoppers!!!

[SatireWolf]

Originally Posted by Magickk

This really should be a 2 part poll or something... The first factor should be body type, and the second part should be what bf% imo.

I'm bulking now, in the past 1.5 month I dropped 15 lbs of fat and put on 5 lbs of muscle, then started the bulk I'm on. I'm getting WAAAY more vascular (might be the epi hehe ) but thats the way it always is and the only place I am visibly not as lean while cutting is my midsection, and this is obviously from pigging out and water retention. As long as I get 280g protein / day, I eat whatever else I want, mcdonald's, arby's, pizza, etc. But I also swim once a week, and run ~3 miles 3 times per week, sometimes jumprope or HIIT. It's not just about "getting big" with me; any moron can get big, I would only consider myself 'too big' if I started to lose athleticism / coordination due to being too fat... By next April I plan on having my 1.5 mile run time below 9:30, my bench above 315 for reps, and my bf% down to at least 10%... I'm at 14.5% currently so bring on the whoppers!!!

Wendy's and Whataburger are better But any place that fresh grind's their beef on site is the best! There's a little family run burger joint down the street that grinds their own beef daily. Best darned 1/2 -> 3/4 pound burgers 5 bucks can buy.

[warbird01]

Originally Posted by Magickk

This really should be a 2 part poll or something... The first factor should be body type, and the second part should be what bf% imo.

I'm bulking now, in the past 1.5 month I dropped 15 lbs of fat and put on 5 lbs of muscle, then started the bulk I'm on. I'm getting WAAAY more vascular (might be the epi hehe ) but thats the way it always is and the only place I am visibly not as lean while cutting is my midsection, and this is obviously from pigging out and water retention. As long as I get 280g protein / day, I eat whatever else I want, mcdonald's, arby's, pizza, etc. But I also swim once a week, and run ~3 miles 3 times per week, sometimes jumprope or HIIT. It's not just about "getting big" with me; any moron can get big, I would only consider myself 'too big' if I started to lose athleticism / coordination due to being too fat... By next April I plan on having my 1.5 mile run time below 9:30, my bench above 315 for reps, and my bf% down to at least 10%... I'm at 14.5% currently so bring on the whoppers!!!

wait, you have dropped 15 lbs of fat and gained 5 lbs of muscle in the last 1.5 months?!?!

are you super human>

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by warbird01

wait, you have dropped 15 lbs of fat and gained 5 lbs of muscle in the last 1.5 months?!?!

are you super human>

or on ph / designers / gear

[james55555]

no more than 4-5 pounds at max in my opion.

[james55555]

eat clean and fat gain will be very little.most people gorge themselfes on way too many carbs.fats need more role in bulking phase.

[Wickedrebel]

I try to put about 15 lbs on or so and work my ass off from there.

[Brolic]

Originally Posted by james55555

no more than 4-5 pounds at max in my opion.

in one year is crazy..

its gotta be 20-50pds from ur stage weight..

[Brolic]

fyi-- my goal was to gain 50pds then start to cut up.. u think its possible to gain 50pds with 10pd of fat gain??