I think it is imperative that we shed some light on this topic. Does anyone know a lot about this?
Exercise upregulates muscular glut-4 expression, therefore structuring carbs around workouts ensure more of the calories are shuttled to muscle and not fat cells. What more is there to know?
Complex pre and simple post?
Research has showed complex to be superior in terms of less fat storage down the road but I usually eat simple carbs post workout. I like to have my watermelon post workout, theres no better NO product out then that.
Fruit would be the only high(ish) GI food that I would keep in my diet(no dex/malto) for a variety of reasons. Watermelon is especially good as not only is it high in citrulline(especially in the rind) but also shifts the pH of the body to the alkaline side. As BBers it is important we do this and both protein and carbs increase acidity. Lemons are also excellent for this. Jminis, have you ever tried the watermelon pre workout, ~30mins before working out? The NO effects are even better that way.
I tought that lemons increase acidity!!!Originally Posted by meathead1987
So watermelons PWO eh? I never noticed watermelons increasing NO activity before when I just ate them to be eating them but I guess I wasn't exactly paying attention either (not really looking at my vascularity while eating watermelons, but I will next time).
meathead, do you know of any other foods that help with pH shift to alkaline ?Originally Posted by meathead1987
Originally Posted by meathead1987
I love to do watermelon pre/post workout. The other good thing is that the high GI load value is low. So you get a quick spike...it does it's deed...then it's gone.
plus watermelon is so damn GOOD!!!
I have never eaten is pre-wo though only post-wo so I'll have to give it a shot to see if i notice the NO effects everyone here mentions.
I would assume that too, but I was told by a nutritionalist that it has the opposite effect. he said it already is acidic, so needs to be neutralised to be digested, hence more alkaline conditions are promoted.Originally Posted by djsasiccio
And as for other foods that are alkalike:
millet(the only alkalike carb source, others all shift the pH to acidic)
almonds(the only alkaline nut)
Apple cider vinegar(I use 30ml 3x a day)
Unfortunately all decent protein sources are acidic.
Not to be picky, but the body is already alkaline with a pH of 7.4, the idea is just that we're making it a bit more alkaline.Originally Posted by meathead1987
Also, you're sort of right about the almonds. Supposedly, only raw almonds are known to be alkaline.
Spinach is probably the best. Perhaps there was some validity to Popeye eating spinach.
Here's a list of PRAL scores for various foods. This is the largest one I've been able to find yet:
Correct, but the pH induced by the diets of most BBers is shifted to the acidic end because of all the protein/carbs.
Yeah I eat it everyday all day bro, I love the stuff. It seems to keep my muscles full all day when I eat it on a regular basis and the pumps in the gym are an added bonus. You know its funny. Whenever I get my supps from natural sources instead of manufactured powders the effects are always 10x better. Hrmm makes you thinkOriginally Posted by meathead1987
How much do you eat jminis? Do you just use a scale to weigh out the ounces so you know how many of each macronutrient you are getting?
Here's a novel question.
If nutrient timing isn't that important and it doesn't matter much when you get your protein in, so long as tha net is relatively tha same on a day to day basis, why does it matter if you use a slower digesting protein such as micellar before bed? Seems like a waste unless one is dieting, even still I'm not sure as to its actually benefit.
I have engaged in discussion regarding this before. For some, an endo like myself, I believe, and have seen (anecdotal) that it does not really matter that much, as far as I can tell, as long as my daily protein is requirement is met. The reasons I try to use a slower digesting protein before bed is that I train very early in the AM and have nothing more than a shake pre w/o. I am trying to optimize my nutrient timing, in this case slow(er) digesting protein before bed. I tend to use whole foods as opposed to powders to further slow the digetsion. I am not worried about being catabolic or less anabolic during my sleep, when I cannot consume, because I rarely get enough sleep to miss a meal or become catabolicOriginally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad
The only problem is that watermelon is seasonal, and hard to find in my area when not in.Originally Posted by SJA
Hey SJA, or anyone else in the know, how's pineapple post w/o? I was told to eat this for the spike and did it for about 6 months. Not too sure how it rates though.
Pineapple has a glycemic load of 7 and a Gycemic Index of 59. Watermelon a GL of 4 and a GI of 72. Making them both relatively low GL. Pineapple a medium GI verses Watermelon high GI.Originally Posted by Cuffs
Pineapple would still be good post workout, just not as much spike as the watermelon. Also pineapple contains protein digesting enzymes, so if protein is consumed as well post workout, pineapple would help the breakdown and absorption of the protein.