How many times a week do you LEAN BULKERS do cardio?
- 08-22-2005, 05:52 PM
- 08-23-2005, 10:40 AM
- 08-23-2005, 12:17 PM
I'm gonna add a comment or two.
LEAN BULKING, in most cases, is achieved by low to moderate caloric surplus rather than excessive surplus. Unless you have a need or desire for cardiac conditioning, cardio, in this application, is only a means to offset excessive consumption, via energy expenditure, and counter productive, IMO. Like I said, if you desire to engage in cardio for the cardiac conditioning, more power to you. Personally, I would rather control my LEAN BULKING by moderating my caloric intake rather than offsetting the excess. If I'm going to engage in 60 mins of cardio I want it to be burning fat. JMHO...to each, his own...We live in a time where our planet suffers from two epidemics simultaneously - starvation and obesity.
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08-23-2005, 12:32 PM
08-23-2005, 01:29 PM
08-23-2005, 02:59 PM
I'm one of those rare few who actually enjoys my cardio sessions, aside from the fact that it's of utmost importance to health and overall wellness. 5Xwk at a moderate 6-7 mph on the treadmill for 30min. during any of my bulking phases has always worked good for me. It lets me keep my abs a little bit longer, which are always the first to go.
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08-23-2005, 10:39 PM
08-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Cardiovascular health. Most just try to "look" in shape, big difference than actually be well conditioned.Originally Posted by ss01
08-25-2005, 01:13 PM
08-25-2005, 03:38 PM
08-25-2005, 07:03 PM
I didn't read the other posts so this might have already been said but I prefer to lean bulk by working out around 5 days per week and really splitting up the body parts, that way I am getting a lot of exercise during the week and it really sorta eliminates the need for the cardio, at least for us ecto's anyways .
08-25-2005, 07:10 PM
I think the best way to do cardio to enhance a lean bulk is anabolically.
In other words, use an EAA supp beforehand and keep sessions short and intense. Like, 15 minutes of sprinting 3-5 times per week. Doing something like this will give you a second "anabolic boost" aside from actual weight lifting. If your goal is not exactly to lose wieght, then cardio should be treated similarly to a workout with weights. I wouldn't spend my time *****ing around with 10 pound dumbbells therefore wouldn't bother with an hour long grandma jog.
EDIT: but then I guess it couldn't exactly be counted as cardio since it is anaerobic work.
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08-26-2005, 05:02 PM
08-29-2005, 08:40 PM
08-29-2005, 08:52 PM
I'm with the surfer. I have a hard enough time adding LBM without the extra caloric expenditure.Originally Posted by silverSurfer
08-30-2005, 12:59 PM
2-3x/week, 15 mins at 85% for conditioning. Hate running out of steam trying to carry added muscle around.
08-30-2005, 04:15 PM
ideally i would do 1/2 hour of low intensity cardio on an empty stomach first thing in the AM on an empty stomach. Everyone blows this so out of proportion as a fast way to lose muscle, the only thing this method does for me is keep my metabolism ramped (read: kicks up anabolism as well, if calories are there) and also keeps me lean.
09-05-2005, 09:53 AM
09-06-2005, 05:43 AM
09-07-2005, 06:15 AM
09-14-2005, 03:03 PM
I think low intensity is fine, and can contribution to a repartitioning effect in moderation (if your diet is super spot on). As for high intensity, I think some conditioning work IS good, but if you're trying to put on muscle, avoid doing it more than once a week or so.
09-15-2005, 05:53 PM
09-15-2005, 06:36 PM
But if you lift with some REAL intensity, doesn't your HR go up there in the HIIT stratosphere of heartbeat? I know mine does. Not one leg workout goes by without me registering HR = 180. Shouldn't that be just enough, I mean, for conditioning reasons?Originally Posted by jonny21
09-17-2005, 10:49 PM
I've never done cardio, but I'm naturally very lean so any cardio I do burns precious precious calories
09-18-2005, 04:15 AM
usually none...the only time i ever do cardio is on an off day and i am really bored or have nothing to do. doesnt matter if i am cutting or bulking
09-21-2005, 01:59 PM
09-21-2005, 05:21 PM
If Im bulking I dont do any cardio. But Im pretty lean to start with, dont really need it except for aerobic conditioning. If I do cardio 3X a week I will lose weight no matter how much I eat, unless Im on AAS or PHs.
09-27-2005, 11:06 PM
09-29-2005, 08:54 AM
09-29-2005, 10:28 AM
10-04-2005, 03:02 PM
This may sound dumb, but aside from conditioning, isn't doing cardio while bulking just spinning your wheels? I guess it goes back to the real question: Is losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time realistically possible?
If you're starting to get fat, would you be better off to do a 2-3 week cut instead, and then get back to bulking? I just don't know how much fat you can actually lose in two weeks.
10-04-2005, 03:04 PM
10-04-2005, 04:47 PM
Moyer, is that your body? Because, if so, were basically have twin physiques. I mean, if I didn't go to the tanning bed, we'd match.. Weird..
And by the way, to answer your question... Look at this thread:
You should definately look into sprinting. Check out the mind and muscle article on sprinting by Loki. It's awesome.
Do you have a log desicribing your training and/or diet?
10-05-2005, 04:15 PM
10-07-2005, 12:18 AM
Yeah, it's me (and I need to get a little sun). Sorry, no logs yet. Maybe I'll start one soon.Originally Posted by IheartAvantLabs
10-09-2005, 09:01 AM
10-12-2005, 04:56 PM
Why would a Bodybuilder consider him/herself an athlete if you get winded tieing your shoe strings or walking up a flight of stairs at the mall? im 6'0 225lbs so i know its hard carrying 190lbs of mass and up.....Cardio should always be done a minimum of 3x week 20-30min even on bulking cycles remember you do have a heart....even though it is a very efficent piece of equip. you must build it just like muscle
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11-17-2005, 12:06 PM
i'm very lean as well and it's hard for me to put on weight while doing cardio.
the only problem is all my fat store are in my ab region...so i try to do some light cardio for 45min 3x a week to keep the bf% in order
11-18-2005, 09:35 PM
12-19-2005, 03:49 PM
never do cardio... just 5-10min of warmup and 5-10minutes of cooldown on the treadmill.
Lean is all about diet
cardio is catabolic.. i'd rather be anabolic..
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