[DieTrying]

I just thought that I'd start a thread about WHY BBers gain fat when they're bulking/muscling up. I've just started trying to add weight after dieting for a long time and I'm having a hard time staying lean.

If one of these choices doesn't apply to you, please feel free to discuss..Sorry but PLers and year-round bulkers, I think we understand why you hold some extra fat.

[Grassroots082]

DT, my worst area is nutrient timing and portion control. I eat clean foods but can still gain fat on the midsection doing so, while not gaining muscle. I'll figure it out one day (perhaps w/ Bobo's help).

[glenihan]

i don't mind putting on fat in the offseason and i do it because i eat A TON of clean foods as well as indulging myself occasionally ... i don't mind putting on some fat because its simply a by-product of being in SUCH a hyper caloric state (i shoot for 5000 cals a day - 450 grams of protein, 500 grams of carbs, and god knows how much fat) it allows me to put on a lot more muscle and my body doesn't really store fat TOO readily ... so getting up to 14% in the offseason is fine with me, my abs usually still peek through and by being heavier i can toss around weights .. plus i usually shed fat fairly easily .. i can go from 14% to 8% in under 2 months (especially with bobo's help ) so i'm not concerned about some fat ... its fun and helpful to the end product

[CROWLER]

Originally Posted by glenihan

i don't mind putting on fat in the offseason and i do it because i eat A TON of clean foods as well as indulging myself occasionally ... i don't mind putting on some fat because its simply a by-product of being in SUCH a hyper caloric state (i shoot for 5000 cals a day - 450 grams of protein, 500 grams of carbs, and god knows how much fat) it allows me to put on a lot more muscle and my body doesn't really store fat TOO readily ... so getting up to 14% in the offseason is fine with me, my abs usually still peek through and by being heavier i can toss around weights .. plus i usually shed fat fairly easily .. i can go from 14% to 8% in under 2 months (especially with bobo's help ) so i'm not concerned about some fat ... its fun and helpful to the end product

I agree.

I think the term lean bulk is JUST ABOUT a contridiction in terms. Yes I realize there is a guy who posted that he gained 22 lbs and lost fat and another guy who gained like 30 lbs and lost fat. BUT these are attention getters because they are the EXCEPTION.

I think the term lean bulk was popularized by younger (highschool and college age) guys who wanted to gain a few pounds of muscle but didn't want to get fat and look bad for the chicks. I understand it completely.

BUT realize that for 99% of the people who want to get BIG read over 250lbs at 6' you are NOT going to do it with lean bulkers.

SO the reason people get fat while on a lean bulker is if you eat just enough calories to gain a couple pounds of muscle a week you are also eating enough calories to gain some fat too.


CROWLER

[RobInKuwait]

Originally Posted by CROWLER

I agree.

I think the term lean bulk is JUST ABOUT a contridiction in terms. Yes I realize there is a guy who posted that he gained 22 lbs and lost fat and another guy who gained like 30 lbs and lost fat. BUT these are attention getters because they are the EXCEPTION.

I think the term lean bulk was popularized by younger (highschool and college age) guys who wanted to gain a few pounds of muscle but didn't want to get fat and look bad for the chicks. I understand it completely.

BUT realize that for 99% of the people who want to get BIG read over 250lbs at 6' you are NOT going to do it with lean bulkers.

SO the reason people get fat while on a lean bulker is if you eat just enough calories to gain a couple pounds of muscle a week you are also eating enough calories to gain some fat too.


CROWLER

I agree. I've never been successful at putting on weight without a major caloric excess. I think it just makes more sense to all out bulk (cleanly), then cut.

[UNDERTAKER]

i find it very annoying when kids wanna "get huge" but wanna "keep that 6" and don't wanna "gain any fat." If your not willing to gain fat, your not willing you get huge...period. All these lanky pussies at my gym always ask me about my diet and then are like "no way could I do that dude, I'll get fat"

[glenihan]

well when i was 18 i found i could eat and eat and eat and gain muscle upon muscle and not put on an ounce of fat

that is no longer the case lol ... but like i said before fat is fun

[exnihilo]

Originally Posted by glenihan

but like i said before fat is fun

My point exactly

[50joe]

I am the type who CAN'T make like any gains without gaining some fat too. I don't really care! It gives me something to do after bulking then, because why would I bulk/cut? If i didn't gain any fat I wouldnt have anything to cut! And we all love cutting don't we!? I think a lot are horribly scared to lose that 6pack, or get some love handles, but for someone like me, its all part of the fun, glenihan said it best, fat is fun

Its like over at bb.com, i see these pics of people who have some nice size to them, but have the extra fat attributed to the bulk season, and all the replies are usually "Good, but You're FAT" sheesh!

[exnihilo]

Originally Posted by 50joe

Its like over at bb.com, i see these pics of people who have some nice size to them, but have the extra fat attributed to the bulk season, and all the replies are usually "Good, but You're FAT" sheesh!

Just going by my experience... People only say that to me on the internet - even people I antagonize all the time IRL don't say that... Must be something about being twice their size

[glenihan]

exnihilo when's your next meet?

[CROWLER]

Originally Posted by glenihan

well when i was 18 i found i could eat and eat and eat and gain muscle upon muscle and not put on an ounce of fat

that is no longer the case lol ... but like i said before fat is fun

Glenihan how goes the prep for the show in the summer? Hope all is well.



CROWLER

[Chunky]

You can eat in large amount and still manage to keep your bf level in check with cardio. Off season doesnt mean no more cardio.

[glenihan]

thanks for asking crowler

its going really well hovering around 191-192lbs bf probably around 7-8% ... i'm getting vascular as hell, finally started showing on my quads as well although its hard to see with all the hair lol ... striations are coming through very nicely specifically in my delts and chest .. i am beginning to realize i don't need 16 weeks to diet down .. 12 probably would have been optimal, but you live and learn and better to be over prepared .. 5 weeks out i'm going to do a trial run of my contest week culminating with a "shitload" (i think you're familiar with this term) and see how everything looks .. i will post pics when i'm about 8 weeks out .. i'm 10 weeks out right now

[CROWLER]

VERY COOL>

Great to hear it.

If I remember correctly the show is in June which if so you are definitely ahead of time at 7-8% at this time. Hey who knows maybe you could 'grow into' a show like I think a couple of the pros do.

Sounds good with the practice shitload.

Keep us posted


CROWLER

[glenihan]

well i'm still lifting hard as **** and i'm on enough gear where if i changed my diet i could DEFINITELY gain weight (not that its that much gear just 500mg of test) but i'm scared to change my diet jsut because its going so well

i would think to "grow into" the show like Kevin Levrone did oh so well i would need to increase my cals to a point where it may negate some of the leanness i've gotten .. SOME pros can do it, but they most certainly have better genetics than i do .. overall i'm just a big pussy and don't wanna **** up lol