Tried to search but found nothing of use. I'm not looking to use a "fat burner." I just want to know what supplements if any would help prevent or slow the excess calories in my bulk from becoming body fat. Any input?
I searched that and got threads on Anabolic Pump, recompadrol, and glycobol. Anyone have previous experience with these? Any sides?Look up insulin mimicker or nutrient partitioner.
Cortisol controllers, muscle sparing fat burners, PPAR agonists...hmmm I can say:
-TTA-550
-Reduce-XT
-EC stack , or ECY stack.
-Raspberry Ketones (specially pre-high fat meal)
Australian then? But yeah ECY stack is wonderful for overall body composition effects...keeps fat at bay during bulks and it does wonders for recomp/cuts.Second the ones I bolded as well as SLINshot by Purus.
Cant get ephedrine or Yohimbine so cant comment on them. Heard good things about recompadrol but personally never tried them
Take a look into our line on NutraplanetTried to search but found nothing of use. I'm not looking to use a "fat burner." I just want to know what supplements if any would help prevent or slow the excess calories in my bulk from becoming body fat. Any input?
I highly recommend that stack. Just read the write up of each product on my site. They are in PDF form. The fat burner has a list of stacks as well. Great write up and sample diets ectIn for the knowledge!!
Sure, reel me in and get me interested. Then I see aav2 isn't around for 6 weeks! Dirty tricks! LolI highly recommend that stack. Just read the write up of each product on my site. They are in PDF form. The fat burner has a list of stacks as well. Great write up and sample diets ect
Www.enhancedbodyformulations.com
Lately I'll take HIIT over LISS any day of the week...I hadn't been able to bulk up with my love for LISS (I used to overdo it too lol) , dropped it, picked up HIIT and boom!Cardio. Seriously, why would you take a supplement to prevent fat gain instead of doing some HIIT or LISS for their benefits beyond caloric expenditure?
HIIT is the better option from a nutrient repartitioning standpoint, but does not offer the CV benefits of LISS. Don't get me wrong, LISS can be as entertaining as watching paint dry, but it has a role.Lately I'll take HIIT over LISS any day of the week...I hadn't been able to bulk up with my love for LISS (I used to overdo it too lol) , dropped it, picked up HIIT and boom!
I know :/ but damn...I already ran through all of Netflix, and apparently I need new music to keep me entertained for another 7-10 mile run ¬¬' the music I have no longer makes the cut...HIIT is the better option from a nutrient repartitioning standpoint, but does not offer the CV benefits of LISS. Don't get me wrong, LISS can be as entertaining as watching paint dry, but it has a role.
Yeah...that's a lot excessive. I'm talking at most a 2-4 mile run (depending on conditioning) for LISS.I know :/ but damn...I already ran through all of Netflix, and apparently I need new music to keep me entertained for another 7-10 mile run ¬¬' the music I have no longer makes the cut...
I used to do those 4x a week, cut it down to 3x a week...now 0 hahaha...I do enjoy 2-4 mile runs though, not for the caloric expenditure :/ but it really helps clear off my mind, and if they are at night...call me crazy they actually help recovery and a better nights sleep in my caseYeah...that's a lot excessive. I'm talking at most a 2-4 mile run (depending on conditioning) for LISS.
Nutra should have it unless they sold outSure, reel me in and get me interested. Then I see aav2 isn't around for 6 weeks! Dirty tricks! Lol
Looks like a great stack! I need to make an order with nutra soon, trying to wait until the black Friday sale but Idk if I can
New ZealandAustralian then? But yeah ECY stack is wonderful for overall body composition effects...keeps fat at bay during bulks and it does wonders for recomp/cuts.
For GDAs I like Geronova Licensed Na-R-Ala , SPP Slintensity and Slin Sane V2
Same customs lists ! I would love to live there for the women and culture...but damn! No ephedrine or yohimbine? Shoot me!New Zealand
Use it , I like at 2g a day though.alsoi jsut bought some tta-500 is thatbetter ona bulk or a cut,i jsut dontknow whether to useitnow or saveit
Haha yes that is true. We do have some pretty sexy women in this country, that I can not deny hahaSame customs lists ! I would love to live there for the women and culture...but damn! No ephedrine or yohimbine? Shoot me!
Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.Take a look into our line on Nutraplanet
Enhanced Body Formulations
Recompadrol and adipose Annihiilation v2 were designed for just that!
They both incorporate ingredients that may reduce formation of new fat and triglyceride content of fat cells via these pathways
Ppar y antagonism
Acl inhibition
A-amylase and glucosidase inhibition
Acc reduction
Malonyl co a reduction
These all help when it comes to additional calories it also may help with leptin resistance which IMO is why many people who bulk web a certain % Bodyfat see way more fat mass the. Lean mass gained
I highly recommend it
Alternatively you can use dcp instead of aav2 if you'd like
I personally use the following for my transition into a bulk
4 caps recompadrol
3 aav2
3 natty v
1 b complex
Prior to my post work out meal and the same with out the b complex for my next meal
And kept a lot of body fat off while bulking.
That protocol is also used prior to a cheat meal with a beta agonist of your choice
Works phenomenally
I have experience with yohimbe, but not with ephedra. What makes this stack so potent?Australian then? But yeah ECY stack is wonderful for overall body composition effects...keeps fat at bay during bulks and it does wonders for recomp/cuts.
For GDAs I like Geronova Licensed Na-R-Ala , SPP Slintensity and Slin Sane V2
If I do any cardio, including HIIT I burn calories insanely. It's very easy for me to stay lean and I have nothing against cardio. Once I gain some more lean body mass I wouldn't mind maintaining and just being healthy. :]Cardio. Seriously, why would you take a supplement to prevent fat gain instead of doing some HIIT or LISS for their benefits beyond caloric expenditure?
I second that. I occasional do 3 mile runs just for the feeling.I used to do those 4x a week, cut it down to 3x a week...now 0 hahaha...I do enjoy 2-4 mile runs though, not for the caloric expenditure :/ but it really helps clear off my mind, and if they are at night...call me crazy they actually help recovery and a better nights sleep in my case
The combination of Ephedrine and Caffeine is just bliss, and also...the combination of Caffeine AND Yohimbine in a fasted state is amazing...you get so much from this stackI have experience with yohimbe, but not with ephedra. What makes this stack so potent?
It's sold out at the planet?Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.
Looks like it went fast they didn't contact me to let me know. I already set Darren an email so icanget some more oer there ASAP for you guys. But it is buy 3 get 1 free on my website if interestedLooked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.
I'm trying to wait until the black friday sale to place my nutra order, do you think they'll have stock by then? If so, I'll probably snag a couple bottles of recompadrol and aav2 to try outLooks like it went fast they didn't contact me to let me know. I already set Darren an email so icanget some more oer there ASAP for you guys. But it is buy 3 get 1 free on my website if interested
They should if Darren gets back to me today I'll send it out to themI'm trying to wait until the black friday sale to place my nutra order, do you think they'll have stock by then? If so, I'll probably snag a couple bottles of recompadrol and aav2 to try out
You're being overly myopic here. You asked how to prevent fat gain during a bulk, right? There is only one true way to do this: control of caloric balance. I guarantee that you'll burn more calories during your lifting session than doing 8-12 sprints and the improvements that you'll see in recovery and training capacity alone makes it worth the extra time you'll need in the gym and the kitchen. This isn't something that needs to be done everyday; 2-3x/week is sufficient to keep your anaerobic capacity high and to keep the enzymatic and genetic improvements.If I do any cardio, including HIIT I burn calories insanely. It's very easy for me to stay lean and I have nothing against cardio. Once I gain some more lean body mass I wouldn't mind maintaining and just being healthy. :]
Valdez is dead right. I'm using AP and compound 20 but Cardio is still very important in the right amounts. I was always into sprinting and marathons. I've a crazy high metabolism. Even cutting cardio altogether I always struggled to gain any weight. was only 120 lbs 4 months ago. I'm now 140 lbs and do Cardio 4 times weekly. Just make sure you eat properly after a bout of cardio - Lean meats and Veggies with a protein shake are what i'd go with.Bulking doesn't mean training absent of cardio, except for maybe to a few old timers but they were banned anyhow.
Like Rodja said amount of calories burned in a few wind sprints will likely not be more than 300 cals. You could easily replace that with a big glass of chocolate milk. The benefits you will receive from it are well worth an extra 2 cups of milk.
I started out at 117lbs so I know what its like to have a crazy high metabolism (not so much anymore lol) BUT you should have a healthy strong heart to go with strong muscles man.
- Valdez
Oh no. Like I said earlier I don't mind cardio at all. I love sprinting and marathons. I was just trying to figure out ways to get the most calories to my muscle so I can build up lean mass. I just don't like to play the see-saw weight game of bulking and cutting. Right now that I'm cut it's my mission to bulk while slowing or preventing fat gain. I am taking everyone's input very seriously though. Thank you for the feedback.Valdez is dead right. I'm using AP and compound 20 but Cardio is still very important in the right amounts. I was always into sprinting and marathons. I've a crazy high metabolism. Even cutting cardio altogether I always struggled to gain any weight. was only 120 lbs 4 months ago. I'm now 140 lbs and do Cardio 4 times weekly. Just make sure you eat properly after a bout of cardio - Lean meats and Veggies with a protein shake are what i'd go with.
I see a lot of support for these two products, I might give them a try. I'm glad you give more information vs. the usual "try it bro, I like it."I agree with with Carpee. The ratio of tannins and corosolic acid within AP are going to provide support to help prevent lipogenesis. In order to prevent fat gain while bulking, your rate of lipolysis needs to be greater than that of lipogenesis. Compound 20 has incredible lypolytic properties. As one for the most potent Beta2-adrenergic agonists compounds, you'll find this to be an indispensable combo.
I'm more likely to try your product over a competitors if it was on sale. It's how primordial performance hooked me on toco 8.They should if Darren gets back to me today I'll send it out to them
If they pick up enough I'll discuss a sale with them
I enjoyed my run with AP. I have yet to use the C20I see a lot of support for these two products, I might give them a try. I'm glad you give more information vs. the usual "try it bro, I like it."
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