Supps to prevent fat during bulk

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  1. Compound 20, anabolic pump and UR spray work great


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Same customs lists ! I would love to live there for the women and culture...but damn! No ephedrine or yohimbine? Shoot me!
    Haha yes that is true. We do have some pretty sexy women in this country, that I can not deny haha

    Yeah the only part of an ECY stack I can get is caffiene lol...
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  3. Oh man. I go to work and I get all this feedback to look into. As for cutting, I'm down to 5% bf so I don't think I need to cut any further. I just want to bulk back up while not losing all my hard earned definition. I'm going to look into all the products everybody had listed. I currently use raspberry keytones. I'm Looking forward to more knowledge and input. I like to learn from other's experiences.

  4. I think I am going to add EC to my bulk. Dose the same or less? I'm thinking that I could get by on 12.5/dose rather than 25 while bulking maybe?
    Former 300+

    I am done cutting. LBM, come at me.

  5. Disregard this post lol
    Former 300+

    I am done cutting. LBM, come at me.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    Take a look into our line on Nutraplanet

    Enhanced Body Formulations

    Recompadrol and adipose Annihiilation v2 were designed for just that!

    They both incorporate ingredients that may reduce formation of new fat and triglyceride content of fat cells via these pathways

    Ppar y antagonism
    Acl inhibition
    A-amylase and glucosidase inhibition
    Acc reduction
    Malonyl co a reduction

    These all help when it comes to additional calories it also may help with leptin resistance which IMO is why many people who bulk web a certain % Bodyfat see way more fat mass the. Lean mass gained

    I highly recommend it

    Alternatively you can use dcp instead of aav2 if you'd like

    I personally use the following for my transition into a bulk

    4 caps recompadrol
    3 aav2
    3 natty v
    1 b complex

    Prior to my post work out meal and the same with out the b complex for my next meal

    And kept a lot of body fat off while bulking.

    That protocol is also used prior to a cheat meal with a beta agonist of your choice

    Works phenomenally
    Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Australian then? But yeah ECY stack is wonderful for overall body composition effects...keeps fat at bay during bulks and it does wonders for recomp/cuts.

    For GDAs I like Geronova Licensed Na-R-Ala , SPP Slintensity and Slin Sane V2
    I have experience with yohimbe, but not with ephedra. What makes this stack so potent?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja
    Cardio. Seriously, why would you take a supplement to prevent fat gain instead of doing some HIIT or LISS for their benefits beyond caloric expenditure?
    If I do any cardio, including HIIT I burn calories insanely. It's very easy for me to stay lean and I have nothing against cardio. Once I gain some more lean body mass I wouldn't mind maintaining and just being healthy. :]

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    I used to do those 4x a week, cut it down to 3x a week...now 0 hahaha...I do enjoy 2-4 mile runs though, not for the caloric expenditure :/ but it really helps clear off my mind, and if they are at night...call me crazy they actually help recovery and a better nights sleep in my case
    I second that. I occasional do 3 mile runs just for the feeling.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku View Post
    I have experience with yohimbe, but not with ephedra. What makes this stack so potent?
    The combination of Ephedrine and Caffeine is just bliss, and also...the combination of Caffeine AND Yohimbine in a fasted state is amazing...you get so much from this stack

    http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.
    It's sold out at the planet?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.
    Looks like it went fast they didn't contact me to let me know. I already set Darren an email so icanget some more oer there ASAP for you guys. But it is buy 3 get 1 free on my website if interested

  13. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Looks like it went fast they didn't contact me to let me know. I already set Darren an email so icanget some more oer there ASAP for you guys. But it is buy 3 get 1 free on my website if interested
    I'm trying to wait until the black friday sale to place my nutra order, do you think they'll have stock by then? If so, I'll probably snag a couple bottles of recompadrol and aav2 to try out
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    I'm trying to wait until the black friday sale to place my nutra order, do you think they'll have stock by then? If so, I'll probably snag a couple bottles of recompadrol and aav2 to try out
    They should if Darren gets back to me today I'll send it out to them

    If they pick up enough I'll discuss a sale with them

  15. Recompadrol seems to work great. A few of my friends have used it and their body fat % went down while bulking. I have been using USP Labs anabolic pump and na-rala for almost 2 months. I've been bulking and haven't gained any bodyfat. I'm currently at an all time low of 6.4% without cutting. Anabolic Pump is mainly for carbs but worth looking at

  16. I would definitely suggest AP (anabolic pump) and Compound 20 for your goals.

    AP is a solid favorite for me and I have used these two while bulking...which actually turned into a recomp without much effort.

    the size gains came but I lost body fat.

  17. I agree with with Carpee. The ratio of tannins and corosolic acid within AP are going to provide support to help prevent lipogenesis. In order to prevent fat gain while bulking, your rate of lipolysis needs to be greater than that of lipogenesis. Compound 20 has incredible lypolytic properties. As one for the most potent Beta2-adrenergic agonists compounds, you'll find this to be an indispensable combo.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku View Post
    If I do any cardio, including HIIT I burn calories insanely. It's very easy for me to stay lean and I have nothing against cardio. Once I gain some more lean body mass I wouldn't mind maintaining and just being healthy. :]
    You're being overly myopic here. You asked how to prevent fat gain during a bulk, right? There is only one true way to do this: control of caloric balance. I guarantee that you'll burn more calories during your lifting session than doing 8-12 sprints and the improvements that you'll see in recovery and training capacity alone makes it worth the extra time you'll need in the gym and the kitchen. This isn't something that needs to be done everyday; 2-3x/week is sufficient to keep your anaerobic capacity high and to keep the enzymatic and genetic improvements.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  19. Bulking doesn't mean training absent of cardio, except for maybe to a few old timers but they were banned anyhow.

    Like Rodja said amount of calories burned in a few wind sprints will likely not be more than 300 cals. You could easily replace that with a big glass of chocolate milk. The benefits you will receive from it are well worth an extra 2 cups of milk.

    I started out at 117lbs so I know what its like to have a crazy high metabolism (not so much anymore lol) BUT you should have a healthy strong heart to go with strong muscles man.

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Bulking doesn't mean training absent of cardio, except for maybe to a few old timers but they were banned anyhow.

    Like Rodja said amount of calories burned in a few wind sprints will likely not be more than 300 cals. You could easily replace that with a big glass of chocolate milk. The benefits you will receive from it are well worth an extra 2 cups of milk.

    I started out at 117lbs so I know what its like to have a crazy high metabolism (not so much anymore lol) BUT you should have a healthy strong heart to go with strong muscles man.

    - Valdez
    Valdez is dead right. I'm using AP and compound 20 but Cardio is still very important in the right amounts. I was always into sprinting and marathons. I've a crazy high metabolism. Even cutting cardio altogether I always struggled to gain any weight. was only 120 lbs 4 months ago. I'm now 140 lbs and do Cardio 4 times weekly. Just make sure you eat properly after a bout of cardio - Lean meats and Veggies with a protein shake are what i'd go with.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by eddmoore1

    Valdez is dead right. I'm using AP and compound 20 but Cardio is still very important in the right amounts. I was always into sprinting and marathons. I've a crazy high metabolism. Even cutting cardio altogether I always struggled to gain any weight. was only 120 lbs 4 months ago. I'm now 140 lbs and do Cardio 4 times weekly. Just make sure you eat properly after a bout of cardio - Lean meats and Veggies with a protein shake are what i'd go with.
    Oh no. Like I said earlier I don't mind cardio at all. I love sprinting and marathons. I was just trying to figure out ways to get the most calories to my muscle so I can build up lean mass. I just don't like to play the see-saw weight game of bulking and cutting. Right now that I'm cut it's my mission to bulk while slowing or preventing fat gain. I am taking everyone's input very seriously though. Thank you for the feedback.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by diezel
    I agree with with Carpee. The ratio of tannins and corosolic acid within AP are going to provide support to help prevent lipogenesis. In order to prevent fat gain while bulking, your rate of lipolysis needs to be greater than that of lipogenesis. Compound 20 has incredible lypolytic properties. As one for the most potent Beta2-adrenergic agonists compounds, you'll find this to be an indispensable combo.
    I see a lot of support for these two products, I might give them a try. I'm glad you give more information vs. the usual "try it bro, I like it."

  23. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    They should if Darren gets back to me today I'll send it out to them

    If they pick up enough I'll discuss a sale with them
    I'm more likely to try your product over a competitors if it was on sale. It's how primordial performance hooked me on toco 8.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    I see a lot of support for these two products, I might give them a try. I'm glad you give more information vs. the usual "try it bro, I like it."
    I enjoyed my run with AP. I have yet to use the C20

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