Supps to prevent fat during bulk

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    Take a look into our line on Nutraplanet

    Enhanced Body Formulations

    Recompadrol and adipose Annihiilation v2 were designed for just that!

    They both incorporate ingredients that may reduce formation of new fat and triglyceride content of fat cells via these pathways

    Ppar y antagonism
    Acl inhibition
    A-amylase and glucosidase inhibition
    Acc reduction
    Malonyl co a reduction

    These all help when it comes to additional calories it also may help with leptin resistance which IMO is why many people who bulk web a certain % Bodyfat see way more fat mass the. Lean mass gained

    I highly recommend it

    Alternatively you can use dcp instead of aav2 if you'd like

    I personally use the following for my transition into a bulk

    4 caps recompadrol
    3 aav2
    3 natty v
    1 b complex

    Prior to my post work out meal and the same with out the b complex for my next meal

    And kept a lot of body fat off while bulking.

    That protocol is also used prior to a cheat meal with a beta agonist of your choice

    Works phenomenally
    Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Australian then? But yeah ECY stack is wonderful for overall body composition effects...keeps fat at bay during bulks and it does wonders for recomp/cuts.

    For GDAs I like Geronova Licensed Na-R-Ala , SPP Slintensity and Slin Sane V2
    I have experience with yohimbe, but not with ephedra. What makes this stack so potent?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja
    Cardio. Seriously, why would you take a supplement to prevent fat gain instead of doing some HIIT or LISS for their benefits beyond caloric expenditure?
    If I do any cardio, including HIIT I burn calories insanely. It's very easy for me to stay lean and I have nothing against cardio. Once I gain some more lean body mass I wouldn't mind maintaining and just being healthy. :]

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    I used to do those 4x a week, cut it down to 3x a week...now 0 hahaha...I do enjoy 2-4 mile runs though, not for the caloric expenditure :/ but it really helps clear off my mind, and if they are at night...call me crazy they actually help recovery and a better nights sleep in my case
    I second that. I occasional do 3 mile runs just for the feeling.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku View Post
    I have experience with yohimbe, but not with ephedra. What makes this stack so potent?
    The combination of Ephedrine and Caffeine is just bliss, and also...the combination of Caffeine AND Yohimbine in a fasted state is amazing...you get so much from this stack

    http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.
    It's sold out at the planet?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    Looked into this, but....it's sold out. Haha.
    Looks like it went fast they didn't contact me to let me know. I already set Darren an email so icanget some more oer there ASAP for you guys. But it is buy 3 get 1 free on my website if interested

  8. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Looks like it went fast they didn't contact me to let me know. I already set Darren an email so icanget some more oer there ASAP for you guys. But it is buy 3 get 1 free on my website if interested
    I'm trying to wait until the black friday sale to place my nutra order, do you think they'll have stock by then? If so, I'll probably snag a couple bottles of recompadrol and aav2 to try out
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    I'm trying to wait until the black friday sale to place my nutra order, do you think they'll have stock by then? If so, I'll probably snag a couple bottles of recompadrol and aav2 to try out
    They should if Darren gets back to me today I'll send it out to them

    If they pick up enough I'll discuss a sale with them

  10. Recompadrol seems to work great. A few of my friends have used it and their body fat % went down while bulking. I have been using USP Labs anabolic pump and na-rala for almost 2 months. I've been bulking and haven't gained any bodyfat. I'm currently at an all time low of 6.4% without cutting. Anabolic Pump is mainly for carbs but worth looking at

  11. I would definitely suggest AP (anabolic pump) and Compound 20 for your goals.

    AP is a solid favorite for me and I have used these two while bulking...which actually turned into a recomp without much effort.

    the size gains came but I lost body fat.

  12. I agree with with Carpee. The ratio of tannins and corosolic acid within AP are going to provide support to help prevent lipogenesis. In order to prevent fat gain while bulking, your rate of lipolysis needs to be greater than that of lipogenesis. Compound 20 has incredible lypolytic properties. As one for the most potent Beta2-adrenergic agonists compounds, you'll find this to be an indispensable combo.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku View Post
    If I do any cardio, including HIIT I burn calories insanely. It's very easy for me to stay lean and I have nothing against cardio. Once I gain some more lean body mass I wouldn't mind maintaining and just being healthy. :]
    You're being overly myopic here. You asked how to prevent fat gain during a bulk, right? There is only one true way to do this: control of caloric balance. I guarantee that you'll burn more calories during your lifting session than doing 8-12 sprints and the improvements that you'll see in recovery and training capacity alone makes it worth the extra time you'll need in the gym and the kitchen. This isn't something that needs to be done everyday; 2-3x/week is sufficient to keep your anaerobic capacity high and to keep the enzymatic and genetic improvements.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  14. Bulking doesn't mean training absent of cardio, except for maybe to a few old timers but they were banned anyhow.

    Like Rodja said amount of calories burned in a few wind sprints will likely not be more than 300 cals. You could easily replace that with a big glass of chocolate milk. The benefits you will receive from it are well worth an extra 2 cups of milk.

    I started out at 117lbs so I know what its like to have a crazy high metabolism (not so much anymore lol) BUT you should have a healthy strong heart to go with strong muscles man.

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Bulking doesn't mean training absent of cardio, except for maybe to a few old timers but they were banned anyhow.

    Like Rodja said amount of calories burned in a few wind sprints will likely not be more than 300 cals. You could easily replace that with a big glass of chocolate milk. The benefits you will receive from it are well worth an extra 2 cups of milk.

    I started out at 117lbs so I know what its like to have a crazy high metabolism (not so much anymore lol) BUT you should have a healthy strong heart to go with strong muscles man.

    - Valdez
    Valdez is dead right. I'm using AP and compound 20 but Cardio is still very important in the right amounts. I was always into sprinting and marathons. I've a crazy high metabolism. Even cutting cardio altogether I always struggled to gain any weight. was only 120 lbs 4 months ago. I'm now 140 lbs and do Cardio 4 times weekly. Just make sure you eat properly after a bout of cardio - Lean meats and Veggies with a protein shake are what i'd go with.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by eddmoore1

    Valdez is dead right. I'm using AP and compound 20 but Cardio is still very important in the right amounts. I was always into sprinting and marathons. I've a crazy high metabolism. Even cutting cardio altogether I always struggled to gain any weight. was only 120 lbs 4 months ago. I'm now 140 lbs and do Cardio 4 times weekly. Just make sure you eat properly after a bout of cardio - Lean meats and Veggies with a protein shake are what i'd go with.
    Oh no. Like I said earlier I don't mind cardio at all. I love sprinting and marathons. I was just trying to figure out ways to get the most calories to my muscle so I can build up lean mass. I just don't like to play the see-saw weight game of bulking and cutting. Right now that I'm cut it's my mission to bulk while slowing or preventing fat gain. I am taking everyone's input very seriously though. Thank you for the feedback.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by diezel
    I agree with with Carpee. The ratio of tannins and corosolic acid within AP are going to provide support to help prevent lipogenesis. In order to prevent fat gain while bulking, your rate of lipolysis needs to be greater than that of lipogenesis. Compound 20 has incredible lypolytic properties. As one for the most potent Beta2-adrenergic agonists compounds, you'll find this to be an indispensable combo.
    I see a lot of support for these two products, I might give them a try. I'm glad you give more information vs. the usual "try it bro, I like it."

  18. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    They should if Darren gets back to me today I'll send it out to them

    If they pick up enough I'll discuss a sale with them
    I'm more likely to try your product over a competitors if it was on sale. It's how primordial performance hooked me on toco 8.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    I see a lot of support for these two products, I might give them a try. I'm glad you give more information vs. the usual "try it bro, I like it."
    I enjoyed my run with AP. I have yet to use the C20

  20. I just realized this thread made the newsletter

  21. If your goal is sub 10% look to diet and not supps...

    - Valdez
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  22. ok, with what i know and ive learned what would you guys think? Im going into mybodybuilding competition and should have my super refeed on the day of the show. nutrient partitioning via Anabolic Pump and Gymnema plus crap tons of salty candy should = big ass muscles yes? I would love to see how it would work but whats anyone else's opinion on it?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku

    I'm more likely to try your product over a competitors if it was on sale. It's how primordial performance hooked me on toco 8.
    Just sent out a ton of recompadrol to Nutraplanet today. Should be there in a few days

  24. Look into AP, I recently bumped a thread from years back when it went up against a BG meter. If you have trouble finding it, PM me.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative

  25. Although my experience in competition prep is limited it is not recommended to use other products with Anabolic-Pump which are known to significantly impede and/or increase insulin metabolism and glucose mobilization.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by diezel View Post
    Although my experience in competition prep is limited it is not recommended to use other products with Anabolic-Pump which are known to significantly impede and/or increase insulin metabolism and glucose mobilization.
    lol.....soooooo.......still dont answer my question? any thoughts on taking it the day of the show (as stated above) as my muscles will be depleted and when i carb load the result (hopefully) should be fuller thicker muscles. or should i jam some IGF-1 spray (not injections lol) cinnamon, and chromium?

  27. also what supps r u talking bout? only think im on is ephedra extract, caffeine, and DMAA. also the basics, multi V fish oil. increased potassium n B6 so i dont cramp since im dropping water now. taking Xpell from MHP herbal diuretic. i dont see any issues with taking AP the day of the show. i just want some feedback.

  28. AP prior to a show before a show would be fine to saturate your muscles with nutrients. I just wouldn't add Gymnema as well.

  29. mmmmm yesssss thats what i wanted to hear lol....saturationnnnnnnnnnnnnn nn all over them musclesss!!!

  30. g/lwith that
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