Trying to gain muscle... only get fat!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kingsix View Post
    yeah i really screwed up that i didn't get my e2 tested.
    Since i have some female attributes (legs, hips, fatty chest) it might be that my testosterone : estrogen ratio might be screwed up.
    Anyway, I'll go to my doctor next week and try to get an appointment to an endocrinologist. It's supposed to be a 6 month wait for it though.

    In mean time I guess i'll use up these Erase caps. I also got some I3C and resveratrol laying around...
    Been reading around and though these might help me out and they seemed "safe".. unlike some other estrogen blockers/test boosters i been reading up on (didn't even know how to read half the ingredients n they looked like some really weird chemicals. lol).

    I was thinking that even if i had really really low test I'd first try to get it up naturally/ or with some more simple supplements then go to TRT or w/e straight away.

    Do you maybe have a recommendation on what to take to boost my test.... (without potentially screwing up my hormones even more)?
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  2. I guess I read a similar story of yours to me but things changed when I swapped from Bodybuilding routine to Power building routine
    I stacked this with Testosterone booster and estrogen blocker on 4-8 week cycle on and 4-8 weeks off.

    I'm not listing a recommendation as its not standard routine and it may contain non balanced workout mix. Just sharing what I'm doing at the moment.
    2 days split workout and I do continues day 1 day 2 and repeat over 4-5 days cycle then I take 2 days full rest and repeat
    Day 1 ((Heavy Day))
    -Barbell Squat 5x5
    -Barbell Bench Press 5x5
    -Barbell Deadlift 1x5 warm up - 1x5 75 % of 5rm - 1x5 100 % rm
    -Dumbbell Dead lift 2x5
    -Dumbbell Tate press 5x5
    -stretching legs + chest + back

    Day 2 ((Light Day))
    -Push Press 5x5
    -Barbell Bent over Row 5x5
    -Barbell Shrug super set with Barbell Shrug Reverse 5x5
    -Sometimes I do some Forearm sets and pull-ups depend on remaining energy

    I do low-med carb diet with a moderately higher protein intake
    Things changed mostly if you hit your legs,chest and lower back with heavy loads of weights i.e 1.5x to 2.5x your body weight
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  3. You spoked only about calories but this isn't everything. Your training regime also counts !
    Try switching to a more muscle building routine oriented training like 5x5

  4. You need to eat bro. Chicken tuna turkey veggies brown rice milk greek yogurt cottage cheese stuff like that eat every 3 hours eat 5 to 7 meals a day and if your trying to cut up I would say around 2800 cals a day. Wack that steel hard 5 times a week and do cardio at least 3 times a week

  5. I would find a solid test booster if you haven't already. People seem to love DAA these days. PES, USPLabs, & Purus all have products that can help raise your testosterone levels. I'm not sure exactly what your eating, but I eat (maybe you are eating these things already, if not here are some ideas):

    Eggs
    Chicken
    Steak
    Fish
    Tuna
    Almonds
    P-Butter
    Bananas
    Wheat bread
    Potatoes
    V8 Fusion
    Broccoli (different color veggies)
    Any protein powder. (Beef)
    >I don't bother with too much dairy as I don't tolerate it well, bit milk & cheese pack a protein punch as well.


    Trust me I would say when you start eating healthier, you should see some sort of change. Myself I don't always count cals (part is I know from the similar foods) but activity levels can dictate how hungry I am. If you're not a pro or compete I think eating for fuel & also just feeding your body clean cals when you're hungry is a great place to start.

    Bust your ass in the gym, when you start sweating push yourself harder!

    --Either way it just ideas. Hope it helps.
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  6. Idk about the 5-7 meal recommendation, 3 meals, 5, or 7 all work fine... From your initial diet posting how many veggies and nutrition packed foods do you add in? I had the hardest time gaining muscle weight when I was bulking and totally skipping the produce section... Gained more fat on my old diet that had more protien then I do now on my diet which is still high protein but includes a lot of veggies...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by nemix
    Idk about the 5-7 meal recommendation, 3 meals, 5, or 7 all work fine... From your initial diet posting how many veggies and nutrition packed foods do you add in? I had the hardest time gaining muscle weight when I was bulking and totally skipping the produce section... Gained more fat on my old diet that had more protien then I do now on my diet which is still high protein but includes a lot of veggies...
    Cause nutrients is important to muscle growth as well. That's why people need a balanced diet. V8 juice is good as well.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  8. 5 to 7 meals will help keep the metabolism up of course nott 800 cals a meal 2800 a day spread that out.over your meals however you want to lots of protein 1 to 1.5 g per lb of bw carbs prolly 1.5g per lb of bw

  9. And like nemix said lots of veggies man

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Shorty6890 View Post
    5 to 7 meals will help keep the metabolism up of course nott 800 cals a meal 2800 a day spread that out.over your meals however you want to lots of protein 1 to 1.5 g per lb of bw carbs prolly 1.5g per lb of bw
    Outdated research yo. Meal frequency dont matter. Jus' sayin'

  11. yeah i know i guess its just a mind thing for me

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Shorty6890
    5 to 7 meals will help keep the metabolism up of course nott 800 cals a meal 2800 a day spread that out.over your meals however you want to lots of protein 1 to 1.5 g per lb of bw carbs prolly 1.5g per lb of bw
    Meal frequency has nothing to do w metabolism bro

  13. And I love eating food so that layout works best for me at least.I mean who doesnt like to eat ha

  14. Doesnt it help control cravings and blood sugar?

  15. Wow I just researched all that and it really doesnt matter how many times a day your eating at the end of the day it all plays outt the same..my bad I didnt knoew this! Learn something new erday.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Shorty6890 View Post
    5 to 7 meals will help keep the metabolism up of course nott 800 cals a meal 2800 a day spread that out.over your meals however you want to lots of protein 1 to 1.5 g per lb of bw carbs prolly 1.5g per lb of bw
    That is all a total bunch of crap from end to end. There is no metabolism boost from more frequent or higher number of meals, you dont' need more than 1g per lb of protein and with him trying to lose fat as well having that much in carbs is a bad idea too.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Cause nutrients is important to muscle growth as well. That's why people need a balanced diet. V8 juice is good as well.
    Yes sir, I'd still stick for mainly fresh produce or juices. V8 and other bottled drinks are heated up to kill pathogens but this also destroys a bit of a the nutritional content too. I'm sure it still contains some good stuff tho

  18. 6 to 7 meals a day i feel indirectly does tie into a better metabolism

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Shorty6890
    6 to 7 meals a day i feel indirectly does tie into a better metabolism
    I lost weight when I started eating breakfast and small meals more frequently.. I used to wait until noon, have a huge lunch.. then a huge dinner.. got fat real quick, haha.
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  20. Small meals vs big meals don't matter !
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  21. Again, keep your calories in check and also get a nice training program like 5x5
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by mls51112

    I lost weight when I started eating breakfast and small meals more frequently.. I used to wait until noon, have a huge lunch.. then a huge dinner.. got fat real quick, haha.
    If you eat the same foods split over 2 meals or 8 meals, the 2 meals does more for improving body composition than the 8. There can be a psychological plus to the more meals, and if you aren't tracking calories closely you may eat less calories over more meals.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by kingsix View Post
    I have a serious problem gaining any muscle at all.
    I'm 25 years old (6.16ft tall, 175lbs) and seriously training for year and a half now 4 times a week (trained before but always few months on-off), with little results to show.
    What is your training split and exercise selection as well as your weights for each (just to gauge your strength as I could not care less how strong or weak you may be)?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Shorty6890 View Post
    6 to 7 meals a day i feel indirectly does tie into a better metabolism
    No correlation. And in any case, most meal frenquency studies are on obesity 'sufferers' who may need to eat 6 meals of smaller quantity just to get an idea of how much they are eating and to fill their food void.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    What is your training split and exercise selection as well as your weights for each (just to gauge your strength as I could not care less how strong or weak you may be)?
    Tried Stronglifts for 5 months. After 3 months i got to:
    - 87.5kg squats
    - 40 kg overhead press
    - 67.5kg bench press
    - 105kg deadlift
    - 60kg barbell
    Could not get past this values, despite various deloads etc. It's basically my maximum.

    Weird thing is.. at age of 18 i trained for only 2 months and got to 70kg bench with no problems (stopped due to no-bb related injury)! Now years later I can't get to 70kg months 'n months.

    After this i switched to current routine - 4 workouts per week:
    - Monday: back/bicep (bent over barbell row, v-bar pulldown, chinups, ez bar culs, deadlift)
    - Tuesday : shoulders (Overhead press, dumbbell shrug, leverage shoulder press and some ab workout)
    - Wednesday : pause
    - Thursday : chest/tricep (dumbbell bench press, inclined dumbbell flies, tricep pushdown, inclined dumbbell bench press)
    - Friday : (squats, calf press on machine, lying leg curls and leg press)

    These are my current workouts, every day 4-5.. I do them 4 series : 8x,6x,6x,8x .. when 8x its lighter weight, at 6x its heavier weight.

    Regarding the diet: I do not eat 6+ meals per day, as it really didn't help. Ever.
    I'm on intermittent fasting, with my first meal being cca. 1pm and last 9pm.
    1pm meal is a shake most of time with whey+casein+curd cheese and/or ricotta cheese+ lots of berries, double cream and some coconut fat etc. (bout 800kcal)
    Second meal at 4pm (pre workout) is my largest, thats when i normally eat a lot of meat+veggies.
    At 6pm (1 hour pre workout) i usually drink 20g whey+cacao powder or dark chocolate (85%+). Also 20g right after workout.
    My last meal is at 9pm, its usually eggs/cheese or fish etc.
    I sometimes have a carb day on chest or back day.

    Do not recommend me to eat lots of carbs etc. Been there, done that! Feeling LOTS better on high fat, also my muscles seem more visible and full (no idea why as with low glycogen theyr not supposed to.). I also lost hip/belly fat (when on carbs i couldn't get below 93cm waist.. now im at 86!)
    High carb only brought me fat and less good general feeling, nothing more or less.
    I'm thinking that high fat suits me more due to low T... all studies show that high fat+workout increases testosterone by average 20%.
    I should have tested my T before i went on high fat.
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