5000+ calories, NO GAIN!? HELP

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  1. I agree with doing a new extended PCT (8+ weeks), and use Clomid


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    I agree with doing a new extended PCT (8+ weeks), and use Clomid
    Good call on the 8 week. I think maybe even another PCT cycle of 6 may work gotta listen to your body. To the original poster you should also check out Manbeast's post on PCT. I would post the link but I don't have enough posts quite yet.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    Good call on the 8 week. I think maybe even another PCT cycle of 6 may work gotta listen to your body. To the original poster you should also check out Manbeast's post on PCT. I would post the link but I don't have enough posts quite yet.
    I am not trolling. My a1c was good. YES, I just had blood work done. Test WAS 240, liver and kidney values were slightly elevated which she (my endo) was conserned with. She wasnt concerned about the low test...YET. She told me absolutly NO supps for another 3 months we will recheck.

    And about the 10k cals, on the cheat day is when I do this. And NO, its not clean like most days.

  4. Your AST and LST's being elevated is perfectly normal after the cycle you have been through. If its the test i think it was, your test should be 300 at minimum. Some Endocrinologists prefer a guys testosterone be low. They believe that it can be a root cause for some illnesses and can contribute to heart disease. If that truly is the case I might look into finding a new Endocrinologist. Keep reading though. The best thing you can do is educate yourself and manage your care!

  5. Whoah. Those are huge figures. Photos pls. Can't help you cause I'm not at your level. But good luck!
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  6. theres a product called BLACKHOLE you may want to look into. not sure how it would play into the diabetic aspect, but worth checkin into.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Cantell View Post
    So, its either

    Overtrained?
    LOW LOW TEST?
    Diabetes?
    Would prolly say a little bit of both?

  8. There is no way you can be shutdown, eat 5000+ calories per day, and still have 5-6% body fat. You would gain fat and lose muscle if this were truly the case I feel like either this is trolling or you have no idea how to estimate body fat.

  9. 10000 calories is difficult to do but i did it for 4 months and went from 150lbs to 195lbs then cut back to 182 and was at 7% body fat. i think alot of you find that hard to believe because you arent athletes...your bodybuilders. when your doing an hour and a half of hard cardio/plyometrics and lifting on top of that you burn somewhere around 6k calories in a day. whole milk and peanut butter become a mans best friend.

  10. I'm also a type 1 diabetic. I just wanted to say that , you can eat all you want to. But, if your nor nor matching your insulin intake with your carbohydrate intake all of the excess calories will not be ultilized by your body. How are your blood sugars on average. Better yet would be what is your hemoglobin A1C. This a blood test that tells what your average blood sugars have been for the last three months. A reading of 7 indicates a average blood sugar level of 150, my endo is happy with that number. My most recent was 5.7. I have an insulin pump and it is gr8. Keep on eye on your blood sugar levels so your body can utilize all the food you are consuming. Hope this helps, goodluck

  11. I'm diabetic as well, I feel your pain, very hard to put on weight and keep it. You came a long way, dont hurt yourself. Get thru a propper pct first and then get that diet in check. You cant eat carbs like the normal folk, I eat a ton of steak and pork on cycle.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Cantell View Post
    Yes, why should my bodyfat go up?

    Heres a ROUGH picture of my diet.

    Meal #1
    Oatmeal with PB, and nutella, 2 cups milk, 2 scoops protein

    Meal #2
    2 bagels, chicken, 3 eggs

    Meal #3
    Bannana, Yogurt, Homeade Protein Bar

    Meal #4
    Proetien shake, 2 cups milk, Oatmeal with PB

    Meal #5
    Some kind of meat, 2 potatoes

    Meal #6
    Almonds (alot of em) milk, cheese


    I could be wrong, but I do not think this is a good diet to get passed low 200s. I am now 205 and I am still gaining weight along with some fat =/
    But I seem to eat much more protein quality then this.

    my diet compared to yours.... I am not to familiar with diabetes or the diet you have to eat, so sorry if I got this wrong...just trying to help.

    meal one

    10 eggs
    2 WH bread
    1 yogurt
    1 banana

    meal 2

    carnivor weight gainer 700 calories

    meal 3

    2 cups brown rice
    1 fillet fish tilapia
    veggies
    banana
    scoops proteins

    meal 4
    2 sanwhiches WH break either tuna or turkey ham
    1 yogurt
    1 fruit

    meal 5
    moms meal lol =)
    2 cup white rice
    steak/chicken/fish/beef (moderate amount)

    meal 6
    carnivor weight gainer 700 calories

  13. This thread makes me sad...

  14. simple...go back on, problem solved. surprised your bodyfat is still that low, but hitting those calorie amounts each day and having nothing happen is doubtful

  15. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    This thread makes me sad...
    Why?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by GeraldNY181 View Post
    simple...go back on, problem solved. surprised your bodyfat is still that low, but hitting those calorie amounts each day and having nothing happen is doubtful
    Getting blood work done soon, then I may.

  17. When I was young and trying to gain mass by eating clean, I was eating 6k-7k calories a day. It's tough to do with chicken breasts, lean meat, rice, oats, etc. If I had to do it all over again, I'd go back 28 years and tell myself to eat a lot more fat. It makes getting the amount of calories you need much easier. Instead of 93% lean meat, get the 80%. You'll be fine and you can instantly boost your calories by changing this concept. You MAY NEED 6k, 7k, or 8k calories every day. Bump it up to 5500 for a week or two and re-assess. If you get nothing from it, bump to 6k and go in 500 calorie increments. You'll gain. I promise. There is a point where you WILL overwhelm your metabolism and it can't keep up. Once you find that point, you can adjust calories up or down.
    Pain is just weakness leaving the body...
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