test and deca hey, i did propinate and deca way back, prop hurt a little bit especialy when u shoot it in the tricep or definetly bicep, my advice is this, i used to be 145 pounds 6 feet tall i was small and skinny, i used steroids for 2 years and got up to 260 pounds, but i do have graite genetics, i can simpy do 4 sets of biceps and walk out the gym and blow up the next day, i dont know what ur genetics are but i will advize u on this, steroids ruined my life for a while and i was on them for only 2 years, yeah sure u look good ur big and u think ur bad, but man o man the mental changes and physical after stoping this sh it was a lot to deal with, i dont sugest taking steroids to anyone after my expiriance with them, im 230 now natrual for about 6 years i hardly work out and i look good, and no im not on anything at the moment nothing at all, just a lot of eggs and good food, and now that i look at it steroids maybe helped me gain all that muscle size 20% only,,,, ur diete is 80% of ur gains, all u have to do is eat a s hit load of carbs and a lot of protine, ur carb to protine ratio should be carbs 100% protine 60% and watch ur body f uck ing blow up my friend, then after u gain about 100 pounds of size after two years u cut down 50 pounds, this should take about 6 months of dieteing, when dietig to lose size and get cut ur carb to protine ratio is like this, 60% carbs and 50% protine, also ur carbs should be nothing other then potato baked, rice boiled and some vegies, only drink water when u are dieting froget juice and milk u wont get as riped, and now after 6 months ur 50 pounds heavier then u were before, nd looking ripped as f uck. if ur 150 pounds ok now after 2 years u bulk up to 250, now for six months u drop 50, ur 200 pounds now and ripped as hell, maybe at 210 u still look good