I need to bulk up as much as possible

[Justin1175]

I am 35 years old. I eat quite a bit with the main focus being protein. At least 300g per day. I average about 3000 calories a day with just normal eating. I am in the military and went through a survival course that unfortunately starves you so I lost about 15 lbs. I am Currently 134 lbs. I need to gain back at least the 15 I lost and would much prefer 20.

I am really strong for my size. And workout often.
80 dumb bells and rep out a set of 10.
185 squat for a set of 15. I am not comfortable squatting a weight I can only do a 5 times or less. So I will stick with weight that I can do sets of 10.

I have two bottles of Primaforce Havoc and two bottles of Natadrol and one bottle Formadrol waiting to be used as well.

I have tried to include as much information as possible with the information that I commonly see you guys ask when people are looking for advice.

Really what I need is a critique of this plan and any suggestions or modifications to this plan that would help me put on as much muscle as possible.



Purus Halovar inslinsifide Cycle = 180 ct.

Pills by week = 21 / 21 / 28 / 28 / 28 / 28 = 154
# of mg by day = 75 / 75 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100
Week 1 = Halovar X 3 daily
Week 2 = Halovar X 3 daily
Week 3 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 4 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 5 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 6 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 7 = PCT
Week 8 = PCT
Week 9 = PCT
Week 10 = PCT

During Cycle and Post Cycle:
Purus Organ Shield = 2 daily
Cycle Assist = 2 daily
Animal pak = 1 daily
Liver care = 3 daily
Flaxseed Oil = 3 daily
Muscletech Aplodan = 3 daily
Superpump 250
No-Shotgun V3
Universal Nutrition real gains weight gainer
Pure Protein Supreme Whey Shot 50g per shot

PCT:
Purus ReCycle = 4 daily
SNS Inhibit E = 3 daily
MYO Test = 3 daily


Thanks guys for any input you may have.

 

[drudixon]

I am 35 years old. I eat quite a bit with the main focus being protein. At least 300g per day. I average about 3000 calories a day with just normal eating. I am in the military and went through a survival course that unfortunately starves you so I lost about 15 lbs. I am Currently 142 lbs. I need to gain back at least the 15 I lost and would much prefer 20.

I am really strong for my size. And workout often.
80 dumb bells and rep out a set of 10.
185 squat for a set of 15. I am not comfortable squatting a weight I can only do a 5 times or less. So I will stick with weight that I can do sets of 10.

I have two bottles of Primaforce Havoc and two bottles of Natadrol and one bottle Formadrol waiting to be used as well.

I have tried to include as much information as possible with the information that I commonly see you guys ask when people are looking for advice.

Really what I need is a critique of this plan and any suggestions or modifications to this plan that would help me put on as much muscle as possible.



Purus Halovar inslinsifide Cycle = 180 ct.

Pills by week = 21 / 21 / 28 / 28 / 28 / 28 = 154
# of mg by day = 75 / 75 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100
Week 1 = Halovar X 3 daily
Week 2 = Halovar X 3 daily
Week 3 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 4 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 5 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 6 = Halovar X 4 daily
Week 7 = PCT
Week 8 = PCT
Week 9 = PCT
Week 10 = PCT

During Cycle and Post Cycle:
Purus Organ Shield = 2 daily
Cycle Assist = 2 daily
Animal pak = 1 daily
Liver care = 3 daily
Flaxseed Oil = 3 daily
Muscletech Aplodan = 3 daily
Superpump 250
No-Shotgun V3
Universal Nutrition real gains weight gainer
Pure Protein Supreme Whey Shot 50g per shot

PCT:
Purus ReCycle = 4 daily
SNS Inhibit E = 3 daily
MYO Test = 3 daily


Thanks guys for any input you may have.

Holy supplements buddy. I think you're taking them all....

Srsly tho, I've never tried halovar, so not sure about it. Seems to me you're taking 3 different liver products. Just take Cycle Assist as directed. I like fish oil better than flaxseed, but that's neither here nor there. Why do you have 2 pre-workouts? IF anything, take neither until PCT, unless energy is a real problem. Seems you should take either, recycle or the other two for your OTC pct. It'd be better if you went to a sports doc and got a scrip for Nolva IMO. You're military, so you'll need a scrip to be legit.

For Aplodan, it stinks of cell tech to me. Just take ON Gold whey, and drink assloads of milk and of course eat. Food > than powders.

Can you skip cardio for a while?

My 2 cents, I'm not an expert, just read a lot and have put on a few pounds myself. I went from 148 to 192 with noob gains and cytogainer last year (a ton of fat too sadly). So you can definitely do it.

 

[wheeliegsxr]

i agree to many supps, not enough food... do some more research on bulking bro size is all in your diet maybe try more barbell exercises too. i also have found volume training to be most helpful gaining size, dont stop at 10 reps, push twards 15 20 reps. the goal is to fill your muscles with blood and send them the nutrients they need to grow.. freak em out keep them thinking

 

[Justin1175]

i agree to many supps, not enough food... do some more research on bulking bro size is all in your diet maybe try more barbell exercises too. i also have found volume training to be most helpful gaining size, dont stop at 10 reps, push twards 15 20 reps. the goal is to fill your muscles with blood and send them the nutrients they need to grow.. freak em out keep them thinking

It's funny you mention it. I changed my workout a couple weeks ago. I created an Excel spreadsheet that calculates your one rep max and you can also put in what percentage you want to lift at. I start at a weight that I can only do 15 reps for two weeks then change to 10 and down to 5. Then re-calculate my 1 rep max and start over. It's been kicking my ass. I like it. I usually only lift a weight that I can do 5-6 reps with.

 

[chrisrob05]

Eat like hell-I've been through those ARMY schools!!! They could turn Arnold Schwarzenegger into a runt!!!! Steak, eggs, milk, protein powder, and sufficient carbs should do it-Taking too many supplements will ruin your appetite, especially the NO supps-Just Eat!!! A few of those supps that you listed are really good ones though!!

 

[CaponeCEO]

If you lost 15 pounds during that training then there is no reason for you to have to use PH's to gain that back. You can gain it back naturally. I would say you need to do heavy weight low reps, supported by a good diet, and cardio should be good but not the main focus. You can get back to basics and see a positive outcome.

All those supplements = expensive piss

Get back to whole foods.

 

[R1balla]

i 2nd that ^^^^

 

[Justin1175]

I finished the school in August of 2009. I have not able to get back to 155 since then. That's with plenty of food and protein and working out very low reps, heavy weight. My genetics just don't allow me to put on weight like other people. My body just naturally cuts instead of bulking.

I took your advice and bought a SERM. I know its better for retaining my gains and restoring my test as quickly as possible. I also added L-Taurine incase the bumps show up.

Diet: I am shooting for 400g of Protein minimum each day which is 2.5 times the weight that I'm shooting for, which is 160. Not sure what the magic number I should shoot for with carbs? Currently get around 300g to 400g a day. I use a calorie calculator and with the way I currently eat get an average of 3,700 a day. This is my typical diet that I have had for the past year. I have never been one to eat junk food, candy or pop(soda) so I really don't have any empty calories, except maybe my powerade that I love to drink.

Is there anything else that I should look to add to this plan?


Purus Halovar inslinsifide Cycle = 180 ct.

Pills by week =14 / 21 / 21 / 21 / 21 / 21 = 119
# of mg by day =50 / 75 / 75 / 75 / 75 / 75

FEB 7th Week 0 = Hawthorn Berries x 3 daily
FEB 14th Week 1 = Halovar X 2 daily
FEB 21st Week 2 = Halovar X 3 daily
FEB 28th Week 3 = Halovar X 3 daily
MAR 7th Week 4 = Halovar X 3 daily
MAR 14th Week 5 = Halovar X 3 daily
MAR 21st Week 6 = Halovar X 3 daily
MAR 28th Week 7 = PCT
APR 4th Week 8 = PCT
APR 11th Week 9 = PCT
APR 18th Week 10 = PCT

During Cycle:
Hawthorne Berry 565mg ea. = 6 daily
Purus Organ Shield = 2 daily
Cycle Assist = 6 daily
L-Taurine 1500mg ea. = 3 daily
Animal Pak = 1 daily
Animal Pak M Stak = 1 daily
Liver Care Liv.52 = 3 daily
Flaxseed Oil 1300mg ea. = 3 daily
Universal Nutrition Real Gains Weight Gainer X 2
Pure Protein Supreme Whey Shot 50g X 3

Post Cycle:
*Superpump 250* = Pre-Workout
*No-Shotgun V3* = Pre-Workout
Animal Pak = 2 daily
*one or the other, not both

PCT:
Tamoxifen Citrate (Liquid) = 20 / 20 / 10 / 10
Purus ReCycle = 8 daily
SNS Inhibit E = 3 daily
MYO Test = 3 daily

Justin

 

[Leigh123]

EAT BIG TO GAIN BIG!!!!!!!! Thats really it in a nut shell man.... 15-20lb gain is going to be pretty tough for your size man.... another thing that I noticed... Your cycle is 6 weeks and your PCT is only 4... make them even just to be safe.. But some whey protein and take it 4 times a day.. thats where I really got help for my protein consumption! Just remember though...



EAT BIG TO GAIN BIG

 

[Justin1175]

Progress so far.............


WORKOUT LOG STARTING FEB 4TH 2011

4 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP: Weight = 134
FLAT -
60x5
65x5
70x5
75x5
75x5

INCLINE -
50X8
50X10

BAR DIPS -
BWX15

TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
70X10
80X8
90X10
100X8
80X10

BUTTER FLIES -
30X8
30X8
30X10
30X10

Notes: I did take one scoop of NO-Shotgun before workout. I don’t feel any effects from the Halovar yet, so I thought I would take the NO-shotgun. Probably won’t try it again. I suspect that maybe tomorrow I will start to feel a little of the Halovar and don’t want to have the elevated heart rate. No Issues with doing it so far.

Tomorrow is legs so I will already have an elevated heart rate just from the size of the muscle group being exercised. I tend to push my leg workouts pretty hard and sometimes get light headed after squatting and leg press. So no NO-shotgun for me tomorrow.










5 FEB 2011 - LEGS:
SQUAT -
135x10
155x5
185x5
205x5

LEG PRESS -
200x10
300x10
400X10
400X10

CALVE RAISES -
400X10
400X10
400X10

Notes: probably one of the hardest workouts I’ve done. Squats wasn’t really feeling all that great, but leg press was really tearing me up. Really going to be feeling that one.

6 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 136

MIL PRESS -
40X10
45X5
50X10
50X50

FRONT RAISES -
20X8
20X10

LAT PULLS -
120X10
140X10
160X5
140X6

UPRIGHT ROW -
60X10
70X10
80X10
90X10

ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSS OVER -
20X10
20X10
20X10

PREACHER CURLS - BAR = 20 lbs.
50X10
50X10
50X10

SEATED DB CURLS
20X10
20X10
20X10

Notes: I did a lot of other exercises with cables. From front shoulder press, front lateral crossover targeting rear delts, head knockers targeting bi-ceps. I almost want to try this routine with the aid of NO-shotgun and see if it helps like it did for chest. I meant to do bent over rows with the 45 lbs bar. My back definitely needs a lot of added work. I can’t believe I only way 136 lbs. Wow, thats bad.

8 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 136

FLAT -
65x5
70x5
75x5
80x5

INCLINE -
50X10
50X10

BAR DIPS -
BWX15
BWX15

TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
80X7
90X7
100X6
80X10

BUTTER FLIES -
20X10
30X10
30X10

Notes: I increased in lifts with a new PR with 80 lbs. DB’s, but I wasn’t really feeling into it.

11 FEB 2011 - LEGS: Weight = 137

SQUAT -
135x10
155x5
185x5
205x5
DEAD LIFT -
135X10
155X10
185X5
205X5
225X5

S/L DEAD LIFT -
135X10
155X10
155X10

LEG PRESS -
400X10
400X10
400X10
400X10

CALVE RAISES -
400X12
400X10
400X10

Notes: I had the last two days off. Work had me feeling really tired. One week into the cycle and today was the first day that I am bumping up to 75mg a day. Right now I still can’t tell I have been taking anything. Common for a lot of people so I hear. My weights did not go up from the last time I did legs but I did add Dead Lifts and Stiff Leg Dead Lifts. I also weighed in at a whopping 137 lbs. LOL!

11 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 137

MIL PRESS -
45X10
50X10
55X10

FRONT RAISES -
20X10

LAT PULLS -
120X10
140X5
160X5
180X2
140X10

UPRIGHT ROW - WITH BARBELL
45X10
55X10
65X10

BENT OVER ROWS -
65X10
75X10
95X6

PREACHER CURLS - BAR = 20 lbs.
40X10
50X10
70X7
40X21
40X10

PULL UPS - BODY WEIGHT
BWX10
BWX5

ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSSOVERS -
20X10
30X10
30X10

SEATED DB CURLS -
20X10
20X10

CABLE ONE ARM MIL PRESS -
30X10
40X10
50X10

Notes: I added Animal M-Stak into my diet taken 45 minutes prior to workout with my Halovar. Once again I have noticed some strength gains but I am not sure that I couldn't have the same increases without the Halovar. I’m barely into my second week so typical I am not feeling the Halovar yet. I have noticed some slight body composition changes but no real weight gain. I already have very low body fat so at this point the only place to go is up.

13 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 140

FLAT -
65X5
70X5
75X5
80X5
85X4

DECLINE -
65X10
65X10
65X5

BAR DIPS -
BWX20
BWX12

TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
100X7
110X7
120X7
90X10
90X10

REVERSE PULL DOWN -
20X8
20X8
20X8

BUTTER FLIES -
30X10
40X10
50X7

DB TRI PRESS -
30X15
35X10

Notes: I wasn’t really feeling like to working out but once I got there it didn’t take long for me to find my motivation. Once again I set a new PR with 85 lbs. Db’s. I think every single exercise I went up in weight actually.

14 FEB 2011 - LEGS: Weight = 141

SQUAT -
135x10
185x10
205x7

DEAD LIFT - BEHIND THE BACK
135X10
185X10
185X10
185X10

LEG PRESS -
400X10
500X10
500X10
500X10
500X10

CALVE RAISES -
400X8
500X10
500X10
500X10

15 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 142

MIL PRESS -
45X10
50X10
55X10
60x10

FRONT RAISES -
20X10
25x10
25X10

LAT PULLS -
140X10
160X10
160X8

UPRIGHT ROW - WITH BARBELL
65X10
75X8
75x8
65X10

PULL UPS - BODY WEIGHT
BWX10
BWX5

ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSSOVERS -
20X10
30X10
30X10

SEATED DB CURLS -
20X10
25X10
25x8

HAMMER CURLS -
20X10
20X10
20X8
20X6
20X5

CABLE ONE ARM MIL PRESS -
40X10
50X10
60X10

17 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 143*

FLAT -
65X5
70X5
75X5
80X5
80X8

DECLINE BB -
135X10
135X10
135X8

TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
100X7
110X7
120X7
90X10
90X10

SKULL CRUSHERS -
50X10
50X10
50X10

DB BUTTER FLIES -
30X8
25X10
25X10

STANDING SKULL CRUSHERS -
40X30
50X15
50X15
Used a different scale because I completed workout at different gym due to mine being closed. I am back to using pre-workout formula's since I have not a single issue with BP. I like it. I don't feel the Halovar at all so it definitely helps to use the NO-Shotgun.


20 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 143

MIL PRESS -
45X10
50X10
55X10
50X8
45X10

FRONT RAISES -
20X10
25X10
25X10

LAT PULLS -
140X5
120X10
120X10

UPRIGHT ROW - WITH BARBELL
65X10
75X10
80x10
65X10

PULL UPS - BODY WEIGHT
BWX10
BWX8
BWX5

ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSSOVERS -
20X10
30X10
30X10

STANDING CURLS - BAR = 20 LBS.
50X7
60X7
70X6
40X21

HAMMER CURLS -
20X10
25X10
30X10
25X8
25X8
25X5


21 FEB 2011 - LEGS: Weight = 144

SQUAT -
135X10
185X10
205X5
225X5

DEAD LIFT -
135X10
185X10
205X5
225X5

LEG PRESS -
400X10
600X10
600X10
600X10
400X10
400X10

CALVE RAISES -
600X10
600X10
600X10
400X10
400X10
Note: Still using the NO-Shotgun and feel great doing it.

22 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 146

FLAT -
70X10
75X5
80X10
80X8
75X6
70X6

BAR DIPS - BODY WEIGHT
BWX20
BWX10

TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
100X10
110X10
120X8
130X3
100X10

SKULL CRUSHERS - STANDING
50X10
60X10
60X10

CABLE BUTTER FLIES -
30X10
40X10
40X10

 

[Justin1175]

Ok, cycle is complete. Final weight is...... 151. Started at 134 and finished at 151. I am very pleased with my results. I went from benching 70 pound dumbbells 5 times to 90 pound dumbbells 8 times. I was already a very lean guy with less that 10% body fat. Sound all gains were only muscle.

I had zero side effects and that was with me using 50mg the first week (waist of time, should have started with 75mg) then 100mg for the last 3 weeks. I did have great support supps including 6g of taurine a day. I never took any joint supps since I had no issues with that either. I had such little issues with taking Halovar that I used NO Shotgun for pre-workout energy throughout the whole cycle. Definitely had no issues with BP. I'm probably one of the few that could do that.

I put on 17 pounds of solid, I mean solid muscle. All I have to do is maintain for the next couple months until I finish my deployment this June. Then I will try another cycle. All I need is to get into the low to mid 160 range and I will be perfect.

I have been on my serm for about a week. Haven't lost anything so far. Tamoxifen Citrate (Liquid) is absolutely horrible. I mix it with my weight gainer or gatorade, but it doesn't help all that much. The stuff is just potent.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

 

[R1balla]

and if u arent eating to support ur new weight ur gonna lose it all. your 5'9", why do u wanna take a cycle when u can gain it naturally. wait till ur body peaks to take a cycle

 

[Justin1175]

and if u arent eating to support ur new weight ur gonna lose it all. your 5'9", why do u wanna take a cycle when u can gain it naturally. wait till ur body peaks to take a cycle

Did you read my last post? I just finished my cycle.

 

[bulk up man]

I am trying to gain weight.
I am 5'9 and 140 lbs. I want to add six pounds.
My metabolism is naturally turbo charged.
Just to maintain my current weight I am at 3,900 calories a day.
Should I bump it up to say 4,400?

I try to have a beef product at lunch and at dinner. For lunch today I had a portion
of beef pot pie along with two cups of rice and some broccoli.

 

[EasyEJL]

I am trying to gain weight.
I am 5'9 and 140 lbs. I want to add six pounds.
My metabolism is naturally turbo charged.
Just to maintain my current weight I am at 3,900 calories a day.
Should I bump it up to say 4,400?

I try to have a beef product at lunch and at dinner. For lunch today I had a portion
of beef pot pie along with two cups of rice and some broccoli.

yep, just bump the calories, thats all it really takes. The original poster was silly to bother with a steroid cycle, but oh well.

 

[Justin1175]

yep, just bump the calories, thats all it really takes. The original poster was silly to bother with a steroid cycle, but oh well.

Ahaha, I am silly for doing a very successful cycle with no side effects. WTF ever.

Don't bother posting your negative ****.

 

[EasyEJL]

Ahaha, I am silly for doing a very successful cycle with no side effects. WTF ever.

Don't bother posting your negative ****.

Women your height weigh more than you. Steroids were totally unnecessary for you to regain 10-15 lbs you previously had. Learning how to eat would serve you a lot better in the long run.

 

[diegone]

Women your height weigh more than you. Steroids were totally unnecessary for you to regain 10-15 lbs you previously had. Learning how to eat would serve you a lot better in the long run.

Lol I agree, I'm also 5'9 and my NATURAL frame is 140lbs (if I stop training / diet I always go back to that point) so I worked my way up to 161lbs last year with the use of protein/creatine ONLY, not even multivitamins or anything, training and protein (creatine only for a month). Then I stopped training and went back to 144lbs.. this year I started on Feb 5th, 2011 and as of now March 23, 2011 I'm back to 156lbs, I will be starting my PH cycle once I reach 161lbs like last year since I got stuck in that weight for 2-3 months with no gains. Hopefully I'll cross the 170lb line, all I need is 10 lbs

It seems that all 5'9 people like me have a MONSTER metabolism... wish it stayed like this when we turn 30 years old haha guess it's just for now.

EAT LIFT SLEEP.
If you're 5'9 I wouldn't suggest PH's till you're +165lbs naturally but it's your body not my business just my 2 cents
Glad your cycle was a success tho! Good thing you added Tamoxifen for your SERM, side effects can be nasty as some people report.

 

[bla55]

Ahaha, I am silly for doing a very successful cycle with no side effects. WTF ever.

Don't bother posting your negative ****.

You post asking for help and then you go dissing who's helping you?

 

[rayactr2k6]

Ya too many supps. Oh and NO shotgun has a fat burner i believe, so that isnt gonna help you pack on any size. so if you are going to cut out anything, make sure its that.

 

[Justin1175]

Ya too many supps. Oh and NO shotgun has a fat burner i believe, so that isnt gonna help you pack on any size. so if you are going to cut out anything, make sure its that.

Really? NO Shotgun has a fat burner in it? That sucks, I really liked the stuff.

 

[rayactr2k6]

Really? NO Shotgun has a fat burner in it? That sucks, I really liked the stuff.

Ya im pretty sure it says -90 calories or something on the nutrition facts. thats why they put 20g of protein in one serving.