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    I need to bulk up as much as possible


    I am 35 years old. I eat quite a bit with the main focus being protein. At least 300g per day. I average about 3000 calories a day with just normal eating. I am in the military and went through a survival course that unfortunately starves you so I lost about 15 lbs. I am Currently 134 lbs. I need to gain back at least the 15 I lost and would much prefer 20.

    I am really strong for my size. And workout often.
    80 dumb bells and rep out a set of 10.
    185 squat for a set of 15. I am not comfortable squatting a weight I can only do a 5 times or less. So I will stick with weight that I can do sets of 10.

    I have two bottles of Primaforce Havoc and two bottles of Natadrol and one bottle Formadrol waiting to be used as well.

    I have tried to include as much information as possible with the information that I commonly see you guys ask when people are looking for advice.

    Really what I need is a critique of this plan and any suggestions or modifications to this plan that would help me put on as much muscle as possible.



    Purus Halovar inslinsifide Cycle = 180 ct.

    Pills by week = 21 / 21 / 28 / 28 / 28 / 28 = 154
    # of mg by day = 75 / 75 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100
    Week 1 = Halovar X 3 daily
    Week 2 = Halovar X 3 daily
    Week 3 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 4 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 5 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 6 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 7 = PCT
    Week 8 = PCT
    Week 9 = PCT
    Week 10 = PCT

    During Cycle and Post Cycle:
    Purus Organ Shield = 2 daily
    Cycle Assist = 2 daily
    Animal pak = 1 daily
    Liver care = 3 daily
    Flaxseed Oil = 3 daily
    Muscletech Aplodan = 3 daily
    Superpump 250
    No-Shotgun V3
    Universal Nutrition real gains weight gainer
    Pure Protein Supreme Whey Shot 50g per shot

    PCT:
    Purus ReCycle = 4 daily
    SNS Inhibit E = 3 daily
    MYO Test = 3 daily


    Thanks guys for any input you may have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin1175 View Post
    I am 35 years old. I eat quite a bit with the main focus being protein. At least 300g per day. I average about 3000 calories a day with just normal eating. I am in the military and went through a survival course that unfortunately starves you so I lost about 15 lbs. I am Currently 142 lbs. I need to gain back at least the 15 I lost and would much prefer 20.

    I am really strong for my size. And workout often.
    80 dumb bells and rep out a set of 10.
    185 squat for a set of 15. I am not comfortable squatting a weight I can only do a 5 times or less. So I will stick with weight that I can do sets of 10.

    I have two bottles of Primaforce Havoc and two bottles of Natadrol and one bottle Formadrol waiting to be used as well.

    I have tried to include as much information as possible with the information that I commonly see you guys ask when people are looking for advice.

    Really what I need is a critique of this plan and any suggestions or modifications to this plan that would help me put on as much muscle as possible.



    Purus Halovar inslinsifide Cycle = 180 ct.

    Pills by week = 21 / 21 / 28 / 28 / 28 / 28 = 154
    # of mg by day = 75 / 75 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100
    Week 1 = Halovar X 3 daily
    Week 2 = Halovar X 3 daily
    Week 3 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 4 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 5 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 6 = Halovar X 4 daily
    Week 7 = PCT
    Week 8 = PCT
    Week 9 = PCT
    Week 10 = PCT

    During Cycle and Post Cycle:
    Purus Organ Shield = 2 daily
    Cycle Assist = 2 daily
    Animal pak = 1 daily
    Liver care = 3 daily
    Flaxseed Oil = 3 daily
    Muscletech Aplodan = 3 daily
    Superpump 250
    No-Shotgun V3
    Universal Nutrition real gains weight gainer
    Pure Protein Supreme Whey Shot 50g per shot

    PCT:
    Purus ReCycle = 4 daily
    SNS Inhibit E = 3 daily
    MYO Test = 3 daily


    Thanks guys for any input you may have.
    Holy supplements buddy. I think you're taking them all....

    Srsly tho, I've never tried halovar, so not sure about it. Seems to me you're taking 3 different liver products. Just take Cycle Assist as directed. I like fish oil better than flaxseed, but that's neither here nor there. Why do you have 2 pre-workouts? IF anything, take neither until PCT, unless energy is a real problem. Seems you should take either, recycle or the other two for your OTC pct. It'd be better if you went to a sports doc and got a scrip for Nolva IMO. You're military, so you'll need a scrip to be legit.

    For Aplodan, it stinks of cell tech to me. Just take ON Gold whey, and drink assloads of milk and of course eat. Food > than powders.

    Can you skip cardio for a while?

    My 2 cents, I'm not an expert, just read a lot and have put on a few pounds myself. I went from 148 to 192 with noob gains and cytogainer last year (a ton of fat too sadly). So you can definitely do it.
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    i agree to many supps, not enough food... do some more research on bulking bro size is all in your diet maybe try more barbell exercises too. i also have found volume training to be most helpful gaining size, dont stop at 10 reps, push twards 15 20 reps. the goal is to fill your muscles with blood and send them the nutrients they need to grow.. freak em out keep them thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeliegsxr View Post
    i agree to many supps, not enough food... do some more research on bulking bro size is all in your diet maybe try more barbell exercises too. i also have found volume training to be most helpful gaining size, dont stop at 10 reps, push twards 15 20 reps. the goal is to fill your muscles with blood and send them the nutrients they need to grow.. freak em out keep them thinking
    It's funny you mention it. I changed my workout a couple weeks ago. I created an Excel spreadsheet that calculates your one rep max and you can also put in what percentage you want to lift at. I start at a weight that I can only do 15 reps for two weeks then change to 10 and down to 5. Then re-calculate my 1 rep max and start over. It's been kicking my ass. I like it. I usually only lift a weight that I can do 5-6 reps with.
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    Eat like hell-I've been through those ARMY schools!!! They could turn Arnold Schwarzenegger into a runt!!!! Steak, eggs, milk, protein powder, and sufficient carbs should do it-Taking too many supplements will ruin your appetite, especially the NO supps-Just Eat!!! A few of those supps that you listed are really good ones though!!
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    If you lost 15 pounds during that training then there is no reason for you to have to use PH's to gain that back. You can gain it back naturally. I would say you need to do heavy weight low reps, supported by a good diet, and cardio should be good but not the main focus. You can get back to basics and see a positive outcome.

    All those supplements = expensive piss

    Get back to whole foods.
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    i 2nd that ^^^^
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    I finished the school in August of 2009. I have not able to get back to 155 since then. That's with plenty of food and protein and working out very low reps, heavy weight. My genetics just don't allow me to put on weight like other people. My body just naturally cuts instead of bulking.

    I took your advice and bought a SERM. I know its better for retaining my gains and restoring my test as quickly as possible. I also added L-Taurine incase the bumps show up.

    Diet: I am shooting for 400g of Protein minimum each day which is 2.5 times the weight that I'm shooting for, which is 160. Not sure what the magic number I should shoot for with carbs? Currently get around 300g to 400g a day. I use a calorie calculator and with the way I currently eat get an average of 3,700 a day. This is my typical diet that I have had for the past year. I have never been one to eat junk food, candy or pop(soda) so I really don't have any empty calories, except maybe my powerade that I love to drink.

    Is there anything else that I should look to add to this plan?


    Purus Halovar inslinsifide Cycle = 180 ct.

    Pills by week =14 / 21 / 21 / 21 / 21 / 21 = 119
    # of mg by day =50 / 75 / 75 / 75 / 75 / 75

    FEB 7th Week 0 = Hawthorn Berries x 3 daily
    FEB 14th Week 1 = Halovar X 2 daily
    FEB 21st Week 2 = Halovar X 3 daily
    FEB 28th Week 3 = Halovar X 3 daily
    MAR 7th Week 4 = Halovar X 3 daily
    MAR 14th Week 5 = Halovar X 3 daily
    MAR 21st Week 6 = Halovar X 3 daily
    MAR 28th Week 7 = PCT
    APR 4th Week 8 = PCT
    APR 11th Week 9 = PCT
    APR 18th Week 10 = PCT

    During Cycle:
    Hawthorne Berry 565mg ea. = 6 daily
    Purus Organ Shield = 2 daily
    Cycle Assist = 6 daily
    L-Taurine 1500mg ea. = 3 daily
    Animal Pak = 1 daily
    Animal Pak M Stak = 1 daily
    Liver Care Liv.52 = 3 daily
    Flaxseed Oil 1300mg ea. = 3 daily
    Universal Nutrition Real Gains Weight Gainer X 2
    Pure Protein Supreme Whey Shot 50g X 3

    Post Cycle:
    *Superpump 250* = Pre-Workout
    *No-Shotgun V3* = Pre-Workout
    Animal Pak = 2 daily
    *one or the other, not both

    PCT:
    Tamoxifen Citrate (Liquid) = 20 / 20 / 10 / 10
    Purus ReCycle = 8 daily
    SNS Inhibit E = 3 daily
    MYO Test = 3 daily

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    EAT BIG TO GAIN BIG!!!!!!!! Thats really it in a nut shell man.... 15-20lb gain is going to be pretty tough for your size man.... another thing that I noticed... Your cycle is 6 weeks and your PCT is only 4... make them even just to be safe.. But some whey protein and take it 4 times a day.. thats where I really got help for my protein consumption! Just remember though...



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    Progress so far.............


    WORKOUT LOG STARTING FEB 4TH 2011

    4 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP: Weight = 134
    FLAT -
    60x5
    65x5
    70x5
    75x5
    75x5

    INCLINE -
    50X8
    50X10

    BAR DIPS -
    BWX15

    TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
    70X10
    80X8
    90X10
    100X8
    80X10

    BUTTER FLIES -
    30X8
    30X8
    30X10
    30X10

    Notes: I did take one scoop of NO-Shotgun before workout. I donít feel any effects from the Halovar yet, so I thought I would take the NO-shotgun. Probably wonít try it again. I suspect that maybe tomorrow I will start to feel a little of the Halovar and donít want to have the elevated heart rate. No Issues with doing it so far.

    Tomorrow is legs so I will already have an elevated heart rate just from the size of the muscle group being exercised. I tend to push my leg workouts pretty hard and sometimes get light headed after squatting and leg press. So no NO-shotgun for me tomorrow.










    5 FEB 2011 - LEGS:
    SQUAT -
    135x10
    155x5
    185x5
    205x5

    LEG PRESS -
    200x10
    300x10
    400X10
    400X10

    CALVE RAISES -
    400X10
    400X10
    400X10

    Notes: probably one of the hardest workouts Iíve done. Squats wasnít really feeling all that great, but leg press was really tearing me up. Really going to be feeling that one.

    6 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 136

    MIL PRESS -
    40X10
    45X5
    50X10
    50X50

    FRONT RAISES -
    20X8
    20X10

    LAT PULLS -
    120X10
    140X10
    160X5
    140X6

    UPRIGHT ROW -
    60X10
    70X10
    80X10
    90X10

    ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSS OVER -
    20X10
    20X10
    20X10

    PREACHER CURLS - BAR = 20 lbs.
    50X10
    50X10
    50X10

    SEATED DB CURLS
    20X10
    20X10
    20X10

    Notes: I did a lot of other exercises with cables. From front shoulder press, front lateral crossover targeting rear delts, head knockers targeting bi-ceps. I almost want to try this routine with the aid of NO-shotgun and see if it helps like it did for chest. I meant to do bent over rows with the 45 lbs bar. My back definitely needs a lot of added work. I canít believe I only way 136 lbs. Wow, thats bad.

    8 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 136

    FLAT -
    65x5
    70x5
    75x5
    80x5

    INCLINE -
    50X10
    50X10

    BAR DIPS -
    BWX15
    BWX15

    TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
    80X7
    90X7
    100X6
    80X10

    BUTTER FLIES -
    20X10
    30X10
    30X10

    Notes: I increased in lifts with a new PR with 80 lbs. DBís, but I wasnít really feeling into it.

    11 FEB 2011 - LEGS: Weight = 137

    SQUAT -
    135x10
    155x5
    185x5
    205x5
    DEAD LIFT -
    135X10
    155X10
    185X5
    205X5
    225X5

    S/L DEAD LIFT -
    135X10
    155X10
    155X10

    LEG PRESS -
    400X10
    400X10
    400X10
    400X10

    CALVE RAISES -
    400X12
    400X10
    400X10

    Notes: I had the last two days off. Work had me feeling really tired. One week into the cycle and today was the first day that I am bumping up to 75mg a day. Right now I still canít tell I have been taking anything. Common for a lot of people so I hear. My weights did not go up from the last time I did legs but I did add Dead Lifts and Stiff Leg Dead Lifts. I also weighed in at a whopping 137 lbs. LOL!

    11 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 137

    MIL PRESS -
    45X10
    50X10
    55X10

    FRONT RAISES -
    20X10

    LAT PULLS -
    120X10
    140X5
    160X5
    180X2
    140X10

    UPRIGHT ROW - WITH BARBELL
    45X10
    55X10
    65X10

    BENT OVER ROWS -
    65X10
    75X10
    95X6

    PREACHER CURLS - BAR = 20 lbs.
    40X10
    50X10
    70X7
    40X21
    40X10

    PULL UPS - BODY WEIGHT
    BWX10
    BWX5

    ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSSOVERS -
    20X10
    30X10
    30X10

    SEATED DB CURLS -
    20X10
    20X10

    CABLE ONE ARM MIL PRESS -
    30X10
    40X10
    50X10

    Notes: I added Animal M-Stak into my diet taken 45 minutes prior to workout with my Halovar. Once again I have noticed some strength gains but I am not sure that I couldn't have the same increases without the Halovar. Iím barely into my second week so typical I am not feeling the Halovar yet. I have noticed some slight body composition changes but no real weight gain. I already have very low body fat so at this point the only place to go is up.

    13 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 140

    FLAT -
    65X5
    70X5
    75X5
    80X5
    85X4

    DECLINE -
    65X10
    65X10
    65X5

    BAR DIPS -
    BWX20
    BWX12

    TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
    100X7
    110X7
    120X7
    90X10
    90X10

    REVERSE PULL DOWN -
    20X8
    20X8
    20X8

    BUTTER FLIES -
    30X10
    40X10
    50X7

    DB TRI PRESS -
    30X15
    35X10

    Notes: I wasnít really feeling like to working out but once I got there it didnít take long for me to find my motivation. Once again I set a new PR with 85 lbs. Dbís. I think every single exercise I went up in weight actually.

    14 FEB 2011 - LEGS: Weight = 141

    SQUAT -
    135x10
    185x10
    205x7

    DEAD LIFT - BEHIND THE BACK
    135X10
    185X10
    185X10
    185X10

    LEG PRESS -
    400X10
    500X10
    500X10
    500X10
    500X10

    CALVE RAISES -
    400X8
    500X10
    500X10
    500X10

    15 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 142

    MIL PRESS -
    45X10
    50X10
    55X10
    60x10

    FRONT RAISES -
    20X10
    25x10
    25X10

    LAT PULLS -
    140X10
    160X10
    160X8

    UPRIGHT ROW - WITH BARBELL
    65X10
    75X8
    75x8
    65X10

    PULL UPS - BODY WEIGHT
    BWX10
    BWX5

    ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSSOVERS -
    20X10
    30X10
    30X10

    SEATED DB CURLS -
    20X10
    25X10
    25x8

    HAMMER CURLS -
    20X10
    20X10
    20X8
    20X6
    20X5

    CABLE ONE ARM MIL PRESS -
    40X10
    50X10
    60X10

    17 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 143*

    FLAT -
    65X5
    70X5
    75X5
    80X5
    80X8

    DECLINE BB -
    135X10
    135X10
    135X8

    TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
    100X7
    110X7
    120X7
    90X10
    90X10

    SKULL CRUSHERS -
    50X10
    50X10
    50X10

    DB BUTTER FLIES -
    30X8
    25X10
    25X10

    STANDING SKULL CRUSHERS -
    40X30
    50X15
    50X15
    Used a different scale because I completed workout at different gym due to mine being closed. I am back to using pre-workout formula's since I have not a single issue with BP. I like it. I don't feel the Halovar at all so it definitely helps to use the NO-Shotgun.


    20 FEB 2011 - BACK/SHOULDERS: Weight = 143

    MIL PRESS -
    45X10
    50X10
    55X10
    50X8
    45X10

    FRONT RAISES -
    20X10
    25X10
    25X10

    LAT PULLS -
    140X5
    120X10
    120X10

    UPRIGHT ROW - WITH BARBELL
    65X10
    75X10
    80x10
    65X10

    PULL UPS - BODY WEIGHT
    BWX10
    BWX8
    BWX5

    ONE ARM REAR DELT CROSSOVERS -
    20X10
    30X10
    30X10

    STANDING CURLS - BAR = 20 LBS.
    50X7
    60X7
    70X6
    40X21

    HAMMER CURLS -
    20X10
    25X10
    30X10
    25X8
    25X8
    25X5


    21 FEB 2011 - LEGS: Weight = 144

    SQUAT -
    135X10
    185X10
    205X5
    225X5

    DEAD LIFT -
    135X10
    185X10
    205X5
    225X5

    LEG PRESS -
    400X10
    600X10
    600X10
    600X10
    400X10
    400X10

    CALVE RAISES -
    600X10
    600X10
    600X10
    400X10
    400X10
    Note: Still using the NO-Shotgun and feel great doing it.

    22 FEB 2011 - CHEST/TRI-CEP Weight = 146

    FLAT -
    70X10
    75X5
    80X10
    80X8
    75X6
    70X6

    BAR DIPS - BODY WEIGHT
    BWX20
    BWX10

    TRI-CEP PULL DOWN -
    100X10
    110X10
    120X8
    130X3
    100X10

    SKULL CRUSHERS - STANDING
    50X10
    60X10
    60X10

    CABLE BUTTER FLIES -
    30X10
    40X10
    40X10
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    Ok, cycle is complete. Final weight is...... 151. Started at 134 and finished at 151. I am very pleased with my results. I went from benching 70 pound dumbbells 5 times to 90 pound dumbbells 8 times. I was already a very lean guy with less that 10% body fat. Sound all gains were only muscle.

    I had zero side effects and that was with me using 50mg the first week (waist of time, should have started with 75mg) then 100mg for the last 3 weeks. I did have great support supps including 6g of taurine a day. I never took any joint supps since I had no issues with that either. I had such little issues with taking Halovar that I used NO Shotgun for pre-workout energy throughout the whole cycle. Definitely had no issues with BP. I'm probably one of the few that could do that.

    I put on 17 pounds of solid, I mean solid muscle. All I have to do is maintain for the next couple months until I finish my deployment this June. Then I will try another cycle. All I need is to get into the low to mid 160 range and I will be perfect.

    I have been on my serm for about a week. Haven't lost anything so far. Tamoxifen Citrate (Liquid) is absolutely horrible. I mix it with my weight gainer or gatorade, but it doesn't help all that much. The stuff is just potent.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
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    and if u arent eating to support ur new weight ur gonna lose it all. your 5'9", why do u wanna take a cycle when u can gain it naturally. wait till ur body peaks to take a cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    and if u arent eating to support ur new weight ur gonna lose it all. your 5'9", why do u wanna take a cycle when u can gain it naturally. wait till ur body peaks to take a cycle
    Did you read my last post? I just finished my cycle.
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    I am trying to gain weight.
    I am 5'9 and 140 lbs. I want to add six pounds.
    My metabolism is naturally turbo charged.
    Just to maintain my current weight I am at 3,900 calories a day.
    Should I bump it up to say 4,400?

    I try to have a beef product at lunch and at dinner. For lunch today I had a portion
    of beef pot pie along with two cups of rice and some broccoli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulk up man View Post
    I am trying to gain weight.
    I am 5'9 and 140 lbs. I want to add six pounds.
    My metabolism is naturally turbo charged.
    Just to maintain my current weight I am at 3,900 calories a day.
    Should I bump it up to say 4,400?

    I try to have a beef product at lunch and at dinner. For lunch today I had a portion
    of beef pot pie along with two cups of rice and some broccoli.
    yep, just bump the calories, thats all it really takes. The original poster was silly to bother with a steroid cycle, but oh well.
    This space for rent

    Phenadrol Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...-hell-did.html - AMAZING fat loss results so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yep, just bump the calories, thats all it really takes. The original poster was silly to bother with a steroid cycle, but oh well.
    Ahaha, I am silly for doing a very successful cycle with no side effects. WTF ever.

    Don't bother posting your negative ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin1175 View Post
    Ahaha, I am silly for doing a very successful cycle with no side effects. WTF ever.

    Don't bother posting your negative ****.
    Women your height weigh more than you. Steroids were totally unnecessary for you to regain 10-15 lbs you previously had. Learning how to eat would serve you a lot better in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Women your height weigh more than you. Steroids were totally unnecessary for you to regain 10-15 lbs you previously had. Learning how to eat would serve you a lot better in the long run.
    Lol I agree, I'm also 5'9 and my NATURAL frame is 140lbs (if I stop training / diet I always go back to that point) so I worked my way up to 161lbs last year with the use of protein/creatine ONLY, not even multivitamins or anything, training and protein (creatine only for a month). Then I stopped training and went back to 144lbs.. this year I started on Feb 5th, 2011 and as of now March 23, 2011 I'm back to 156lbs, I will be starting my PH cycle once I reach 161lbs like last year since I got stuck in that weight for 2-3 months with no gains. Hopefully I'll cross the 170lb line, all I need is 10 lbs

    It seems that all 5'9 people like me have a MONSTER metabolism... wish it stayed like this when we turn 30 years old haha guess it's just for now.

    EAT LIFT SLEEP.
    If you're 5'9 I wouldn't suggest PH's till you're +165lbs naturally but it's your body not my business just my 2 cents
    Glad your cycle was a success tho! Good thing you added Tamoxifen for your SERM, side effects can be nasty as some people report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin1175 View Post
    Ahaha, I am silly for doing a very successful cycle with no side effects. WTF ever.

    Don't bother posting your negative ****.
    You post asking for help and then you go dissing who's helping you?
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    Ya too many supps. Oh and NO shotgun has a fat burner i believe, so that isnt gonna help you pack on any size. so if you are going to cut out anything, make sure its that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayactr2k6 View Post
    Ya too many supps. Oh and NO shotgun has a fat burner i believe, so that isnt gonna help you pack on any size. so if you are going to cut out anything, make sure its that.
    Really? NO Shotgun has a fat burner in it? That sucks, I really liked the stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin1175 View Post
    Really? NO Shotgun has a fat burner in it? That sucks, I really liked the stuff.
    Ya im pretty sure it says -90 calories or something on the nutrition facts. thats why they put 20g of protein in one serving.
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