on-cycle diet questions

  1. Advanced Member
    gaijininjapan's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Age
    32
    Posts
    650
    Rep Power
    443
    Level
    20
    Lv. Percent
    80.67%

    on-cycle diet questions


    Hello, let me post my current stats first, then get to the questions...

    Height: 175cm
    Weight: 77kg
    Age: 27
    Currently starting wk2 of a mdrol cycle.

    My daily maintenance calorie use is about 2400. I've been intaking about 1,000 over maintenance for the past week, and am currently having trouble keeping that up since my appetite has been going down. Also, I would like to keep my leg muscle growth to a minimum, but would like everything else to increase as much as possible. Reason being that my legs are rather strong in comparison to upper body. I can squat 130kg for my last set of a 5x5. Although not spectacular, it's sure a lot better than my 77.5kg bench IMO.

    So the question is that, will a diet that's ~500-800 above maintenance on leg and off days, and ~1500+ above maintenance on all other days be practical for my goals? I've heard that many people gain about 15lbs while on an mdrol cycle, and that calculates to an average of 2500 above maintenance per day for a 3wk cycle... that is almost impossible for me since I'm already using 3-4 shakes per day to reach my current caloric intake.

    Maybe the kick in the 2nd week of mdrol will skyrocket my appetite? But I haven't felt that "kick" just yet... It would be wasy to scarf down some fast food, but that's not what I want to do... sticking with healthy meals and a 40/30/30 carb/protein/fat split. Should I change up the nutrition intake proportions to have more carbs and protein? I know MDrol loves carbs, but 450g~ of carbs seems like a ton already.

    thanks.

  2. Bananas
    TripDog's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  201 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,084
    Rep Power
    5553
    Level
    62
    Lv. Percent
    41.83%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Wait, what exactly are you asking here? I'm not sure I follow...Simplify your question bro lol.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
  3. Advanced Member
    gaijininjapan's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Age
    32
    Posts
    650
    Rep Power
    443
    Level
    20
    Lv. Percent
    80.67%

    Sorry, my mind's all over the place.. LOL

    1. Will a diet that's ~500-800 above maintenance during leg and off days, and ~1500+ above maintenance on all other days be okay?

    2. I'm currently on a 40/30/30 carb/protein/fat split. Should I change up the nutrition intake proportions to have more carbs and protein or is it okay as-is?
    •   
       

  4. Bananas
    TripDog's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  201 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,084
    Rep Power
    5553
    Level
    62
    Lv. Percent
    41.83%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Well, just keep this basic rule of thumb in mind. Anabolic compounds increase the bodys ability to utilize proteins, and keep the body in a positive nitrogen balance. Only protiens contain nitrogen, and essential for the build-up of tissue in the body. Carbohydrates, provide glycogen/stored energy within muscle, and provide energy output/contractile force production. Increasing carb intake will alow muscles to look "full" basically. As a nutrition counselor tell bodybuilding clients to focus on lean proteins, and complex carbs. Poly and mono unsaturated fats are "GOOD" fats (peanuts, flax oil etc.)

    I don't think I answered your question, but I just felt like rambling...ahahaha.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
  5. New Member
    FittTitt's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  155 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    60
    Rep Power
    82
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    8.74%

    Why don't you want to train your legs heavy im near sure i read somewhere that your body overall will be more anabolic if major muscles are worked like the chest back and quads meaning that hypertrophy will happen a lot faster giving better results so even if your looking to beef up your upper-body it pays if you work your legs to. someone please correct me if im wrong because i don't want to be dishing out bad advice but im pretty sure it goes something like that.
  6. Professional Member
    Gutterpump's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  235 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Age
    37
    Posts
    3,785
    Rep Power
    270716
    Level
    49
    Lv. Percent
    22.64%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by FittTitt View Post
    Why don't you want to train your legs heavy im near sure i read somewhere that your body overall will be more anabolic if major muscles are worked like the chest back and quads meaning that hypertrophy will happen a lot faster giving better results so even if your looking to beef up your upper-body it pays if you work your legs to. someone please correct me if im wrong because i don't want to be dishing out bad advice but im pretty sure it goes something like that.
    He's on cycle, training his legs heavy aren't going to increase anabolism or his natural test, etc.. But doing heavy compound excercises will help growth overall..

    OP, eating less on leg days won't make your legs grow less, your legs will be growing every day while they recover, so simple answer is, if you don't want your legs to grow more - train them less.. Camaaan bro this should be obvious You can keep training them, but don't keep adding weight, and they shouldn't grow too much. Maybe even lower the weight and do some endurance work with them, then at least they can benefit somehow from the cycle, while you focus on hypertrophy on other areas.
  7. Senior Member
    bashman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  179 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,213
    Rep Power
    1499
    Level
    26
    Lv. Percent
    72.56%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by gaijininjapan View Post
    Sorry, my mind's all over the place.. LOL

    1. Will a diet that's ~500-800 above maintenance during leg and off days, and ~1500+ above maintenance on all other days be okay?

    2. I'm currently on a 40/30/30 carb/protein/fat split. Should I change up the nutrition intake proportions to have more carbs and protein or is it okay as-is?
    Your body does not work on a 24hr basis, meaning it does not matter if you only take 800kcals on leg day and then 1500kcal other days, because you are still going to be in a calorie surplus throughout the week. 1500kcal surplus a day seems a bit OTT anyway.
  8. Bananas
    TripDog's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  201 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,084
    Rep Power
    5553
    Level
    62
    Lv. Percent
    41.83%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    He's on cycle, training his legs heavy aren't going to increase anabolism or his natural test, etc.. But doing heavy compound excercises will help growth overall..

    OP, eating less on leg days won't make your legs grow less, your legs will be growing every day while they recover, so simple answer is, if you don't want your legs to grow more - train them less.. Camaaan bro this should be obvious You can keep training them, but don't keep adding weight, and they shouldn't grow too much. Maybe even lower the weight and do some endurance work with them, then at least they can benefit somehow from the cycle, while you focus on hypertrophy on other areas.
    Well said
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
  9. Advanced Member
    gaijininjapan's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Age
    32
    Posts
    650
    Rep Power
    443
    Level
    20
    Lv. Percent
    80.67%

    Quote Originally Posted by bashman View Post
    Your body does not work on a 24hr basis, meaning it does not matter if you only take 800kcals on leg day and then 1500kcal other days, because you are still going to be in a calorie surplus throughout the week. 1500kcal surplus a day seems a bit OTT anyway.
    It does seem a bit OTT, but how are people gaining 15lbs in one 2wk cycle? that's ~2500 extra cals per day! PHs don't make mass appear out of nowhere afaik.

    I want my legs to get stronger but not bigger, but I guess there's really not too much I can do about it on-cycle. Thanks for the input. I'll just stick with my routine and home I can still fit into my pants in 2 weeks. LOL
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. H-Drol Cycle diet and goal questions.
    By kyled427 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-13-2011, 06:04 PM
  2. Tren/test E cycle diet questions?
    By slandow in forum Old School Hormone Use
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-31-2011, 03:07 AM
  3. Keto diet questions.
    By mmacrazy in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-16-2011, 02:07 PM
  4. Cal/Diet Questions
    By Achilles13 in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-17-2006, 11:38 PM
  5. Diet help and questions!
    By tommyboy in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-18-2004, 11:07 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in