tinyrob
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i just saw a thread where a beginner was using some prohormone cream. 5'9" 150lbs. "hardgainer" of course. i dont hate this guy, i dont know him, i have nothing against him. several people replied to his initial post saying that he was using this prohormone cream with "way to go bro" and "awesome bro!" and other crap like that.
im sick of seeing this. i decide im not going to perpetuate the BS, and to tell the guy what he needs to hear- "hardgainer" is BS! i can speak from experience, because i spent all of highschool at 5'9" 150lbs, spinning my wheels for the most part in the weight room. difference being, i kept working at it, and knew there must be something i was doing wrong. i never once tried to make excuses and say "oh well, im just a hardgainer, ill never be big". F that! so, i told the guy what he needed to hear, and some j@ckA$$ gave me like negative (-) 8000 some rep points. then stated that i was right, but didnt like the way i said it.
so, let me see if i cant rack up some more negative rep points, and possibly just get banned right out of here- but keep in mind, what i am about to say to you is correct information, and if you work hard i promise that you can forever leave the term "hardgainer" out when describing yourself...and be warned, a lot of this may not be in any kind of order, im just going to let the thoughts flow, but it will all be relevant!
You have made the initial effort, to want to get bigger and stronger, good job!
now thats about all the praising youll hear from me right now.
if you are skinny, lanky, "skinny fat", etc- in other words, not very muscular and strong, you dont need a boatload of supplements! thats not what will do it for you! youre wasting your money! even if you get your hands on some good prohormones, or even decide to roid it up, if you arent eating to take yourself above 150lbs at 5'9" currently, then whatever muscle/weight you do manage to put on during your dabbling in magic supplements, you WONT be able to sustain it once youre off the supplement/roids!!!
i am not the hugest guy out there! nor am i the strongest! BUT, once i learned to eat, i took myself from 170lbs to 220lbs NATURALLY, with no drugs, and no supplements outside of whey protein powder! was that 50lbs of straight muscle, no it wasnt. was most of it muscle, yes, it certainly was. another miraculous thing happened during this time- i went from benching 225lbs for 4-5 reps, to benching 315lbs for 3-4 reps close grip! NOT the worlds strongest man, by any means! but, funny how i ate more food, pushed myself to get stronger, and got both bigger and stronger, isnt it?
another funny thing about this same time period- i dropped the cookie cutter muscle and fitness routines. no more 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps for 4-5 exercises per session. no sir! sometimes i would do 10 sets of 3, 5 sets of 5, 4 sets of 6, etc. if you arent pushing yourself to lift heavier weights, you arent going to get very strong, and you arent going to get very big. obviously when you use a heavier weight, youll be doing less reps, and if you feel you need more volume, simply do more sets!
most of the crap in M&F is written by the editors- not the bodybuilders. its the same old regurgitated crap time and time again!
you want to get big? then get strong, and eat! you want to get strong? spend some time reading what guys are doing at elitefts.com- it is not the same crap written in M&F, i promise you.
if you are 5'9" and 150lbs- you dont need a frickin' arm day! i think it was Dave Tate that said "you cant flex bone". if it wasnt Tate, it was some other big guy. and if you dont know who Dave Tate is, figure it out! it will help!
...you dont need an arm day- you need heavy compound movements 3-4 days a week, 45mins-hr in the gym, max! you dont need to be in there 2-3hrs, you need to go in, lift heavy, get the hel! out and go home and EAT and SLEEP!
deadlifts, squats, deadlift variations, bench press variation, military press, squat variations, deads, repeat. good idea is Mon- squat, Wed- bench, Fri- Dead...repeat! get your numbers up in the big 3, and EAT, and youll get your jack on!!!
chicken, steak, fish, eggs, milk, natural peanut butter, etc! eat these things in abundance, and whatever condiments or sides you feel like having with them!
get your jack on! then once youve put on a decent amount of size, and gained a good amount of strength, juice up if you want, get really jacked! thats when it works the best, when youve actually put in some hard time, gained size, strength, etc, and things have stalled out. they can get things rolling right along again, but you DONT need that sh!t when youre starting out...and if youve lifted for several years, and made little-no progress, you are just starting out!
thats all ive got for now, maybe people can add to this. keep the crybaby comments to yourselves- i say all of this to help! i wish someone had told me this as a freshman in highschool, i would have been BIG back then! oh well, i finally did some reading and figured the stuff out on my own a couple years ago...
and the reading: t-nation, elitefts, intensemuscle, ironaddicts
apparently i cant post links yet, so put your w's and dot-com's where they go for that reading!
im sick of seeing this. i decide im not going to perpetuate the BS, and to tell the guy what he needs to hear- "hardgainer" is BS! i can speak from experience, because i spent all of highschool at 5'9" 150lbs, spinning my wheels for the most part in the weight room. difference being, i kept working at it, and knew there must be something i was doing wrong. i never once tried to make excuses and say "oh well, im just a hardgainer, ill never be big". F that! so, i told the guy what he needed to hear, and some j@ckA$$ gave me like negative (-) 8000 some rep points. then stated that i was right, but didnt like the way i said it.
so, let me see if i cant rack up some more negative rep points, and possibly just get banned right out of here- but keep in mind, what i am about to say to you is correct information, and if you work hard i promise that you can forever leave the term "hardgainer" out when describing yourself...and be warned, a lot of this may not be in any kind of order, im just going to let the thoughts flow, but it will all be relevant!
You have made the initial effort, to want to get bigger and stronger, good job!
now thats about all the praising youll hear from me right now.
if you are skinny, lanky, "skinny fat", etc- in other words, not very muscular and strong, you dont need a boatload of supplements! thats not what will do it for you! youre wasting your money! even if you get your hands on some good prohormones, or even decide to roid it up, if you arent eating to take yourself above 150lbs at 5'9" currently, then whatever muscle/weight you do manage to put on during your dabbling in magic supplements, you WONT be able to sustain it once youre off the supplement/roids!!!
i am not the hugest guy out there! nor am i the strongest! BUT, once i learned to eat, i took myself from 170lbs to 220lbs NATURALLY, with no drugs, and no supplements outside of whey protein powder! was that 50lbs of straight muscle, no it wasnt. was most of it muscle, yes, it certainly was. another miraculous thing happened during this time- i went from benching 225lbs for 4-5 reps, to benching 315lbs for 3-4 reps close grip! NOT the worlds strongest man, by any means! but, funny how i ate more food, pushed myself to get stronger, and got both bigger and stronger, isnt it?
another funny thing about this same time period- i dropped the cookie cutter muscle and fitness routines. no more 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps for 4-5 exercises per session. no sir! sometimes i would do 10 sets of 3, 5 sets of 5, 4 sets of 6, etc. if you arent pushing yourself to lift heavier weights, you arent going to get very strong, and you arent going to get very big. obviously when you use a heavier weight, youll be doing less reps, and if you feel you need more volume, simply do more sets!
most of the crap in M&F is written by the editors- not the bodybuilders. its the same old regurgitated crap time and time again!
you want to get big? then get strong, and eat! you want to get strong? spend some time reading what guys are doing at elitefts.com- it is not the same crap written in M&F, i promise you.
if you are 5'9" and 150lbs- you dont need a frickin' arm day! i think it was Dave Tate that said "you cant flex bone". if it wasnt Tate, it was some other big guy. and if you dont know who Dave Tate is, figure it out! it will help!
...you dont need an arm day- you need heavy compound movements 3-4 days a week, 45mins-hr in the gym, max! you dont need to be in there 2-3hrs, you need to go in, lift heavy, get the hel! out and go home and EAT and SLEEP!
deadlifts, squats, deadlift variations, bench press variation, military press, squat variations, deads, repeat. good idea is Mon- squat, Wed- bench, Fri- Dead...repeat! get your numbers up in the big 3, and EAT, and youll get your jack on!!!
chicken, steak, fish, eggs, milk, natural peanut butter, etc! eat these things in abundance, and whatever condiments or sides you feel like having with them!
get your jack on! then once youve put on a decent amount of size, and gained a good amount of strength, juice up if you want, get really jacked! thats when it works the best, when youve actually put in some hard time, gained size, strength, etc, and things have stalled out. they can get things rolling right along again, but you DONT need that sh!t when youre starting out...and if youve lifted for several years, and made little-no progress, you are just starting out!
thats all ive got for now, maybe people can add to this. keep the crybaby comments to yourselves- i say all of this to help! i wish someone had told me this as a freshman in highschool, i would have been BIG back then! oh well, i finally did some reading and figured the stuff out on my own a couple years ago...
and the reading: t-nation, elitefts, intensemuscle, ironaddicts
apparently i cant post links yet, so put your w's and dot-com's where they go for that reading!