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Old 10-04-2008, 11:04 PM   #1
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staying in a anabolic state when sleeping
i hear when u sleep u go into a catabolic state which isnt good is there anyway to be at a anabolic state during sleeping
 
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ya.. slurp down a slow processing protein pre-bedtime... i like ultra peptide... or u can eat something... if i dont feel like a shake ill have a cup of cottage cheese.
 


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I read this article the other day. Really good. I have been just eating a solid meal a few hours before bed but I kind of like the sound of this. John Berardi - Bedtime Story
 


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cottage cheese, broccoli, flax/natty pb/ or almonds is the way I like to go.
 


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Old 10-05-2008, 02:53 PM   #5
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cottage cheese, broccoli, flax/natty pb/ or almonds is the way I like to go.
 


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you know it. I bust that out and my friends think I am clinically insane.
 


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Old 10-05-2008, 04:31 PM   #7
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Some people make great gains and eat their last meal hours before bed.

As a general principle, I'd say those who are thin and lower body fat can afford to eat an equal number of calories from casein protein and fat just before bed (remember, 4 cals per gram protein and 9 per gram fat).

On the other hand, those who want to stave off fat gain should probably just consume 25-100 grams of casein just before bed. Personally I am gaining just fine right now with one scoop milk protein isolate before bed and a teaspoon of cod liver oil taken alongside.

Just a matter of knowing how your body responds. Berardi works/has worked closely with Biotest in the past, and they produced some very alarming articles about "losing muscle while you sleep" in order to sell their overpriced casein blend that actually has a lot of whey added. Berardi is a great nutritionist, but I think he was also encouraged to play into the alarmist "Your body goes catabolic at night!" trend.
 
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Some people make great gains and eat their last meal hours before bed.

As a general principle, I'd say those who are thin and lower body fat can afford to eat an equal number of calories from casein protein and fat just before bed (remember, 4 cals per gram protein and 9 per gram fat).

On the other hand, those who want to stave off fat gain should probably just consume 25-100 grams of casein just before bed. Personally I am gaining just fine right now with one scoop milk protein isolate before bed and a teaspoon of cod liver oil taken alongside.

Just a matter of knowing how your body responds. Berardi works/has worked closely with Biotest in the past, and they produced some very alarming articles about "losing muscle while you sleep" in order to sell their overpriced casein blend that actually has a lot of whey added. Berardi is a great nutritionist, but I think he was also encouraged to play into the alarmist "Your body goes catabolic at night!" trend.
I'm not sure which side to pick right now. I think I might just keep doing what I'm doing. I've been eating a solid meal low in carbs,then my ZMK,and then bed for a few months and I've gained 10 pounds. I'm obviously not loosing too much muscle overnight.
 


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Old 10-05-2008, 11:06 PM   #9
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I take in 40g of a mixed whey/casien protien shake before I fall asleep, seems to be doing well. I wake up with a lot more energy now than when I didn't take it.

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I'm not sure which side to pick right now. I think I might just keep doing what I'm doing. I've been eating a solid meal low in carbs,then my ZMK,and then bed for a few months and I've gained 10 pounds. I'm obviously not loosing too much muscle overnight.
The hormonal benefits/gh benefits of fat intake prior to sleep is actually quite interesting, and the main reason I like to take it in with my final meal of the day.
 


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The ball is also starting to roll the other way; some people are now talking about the benefits of having a few carbs before bed. Better perceived sleep quality is one of the benefits.
 
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ZMA and cottage cheese baby!! i dont know if im crazy but when i wake up and eat breakfast i feel fuller, muscular speaking
 
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Chalk another vote up for Ultra peptide before bed.
 



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ZMA and cottage cheese baby!! i dont know if im crazy but when i wake up and eat breakfast i feel fuller, muscular speaking
ZMA should not be taken with calcium so check your cottage cheese . . . http://www.cassclay.com/ccheese_nut.html
 
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lol isnt cottage cheese basically milk
 


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