Q&A For Vanillean

[Resolve]

It's about to happen. Along with a CKD. Should shed this fat obstructing my cycle gains. Really excited for this.

Great plan. Popped my first Vanillean cap this morning. Running it with 7-Keto and Formasurge.

[southsideguy]

I am just now starting to notice a tad bit of strength loss, I believe I'm 3 weeks in of using the stuff. I was barely able to lift my one rep max.

I guess this should probably be expected due to the extremely low calories I've been taking in. HOWEVER; what's very interesting is this. My muscle mass has gotten leaner, and my body weight appears lighter while I'm walking around. But my body weight had not changed. I'm holding steady at 223lbs. I'm looking more leaner, more "cut" in the mirror, haven't loss any muscle, with just a tad bit of loss in strength (due to low calorie intake i assume.

Strange but interesting....

[Celorza]

Sorry if this has been asked before Matt, but would you see any:

-Pro
-Con
-Reason

To use Vanillean on a PH/DS cycle? Let's say one that raises BP like Epi+Stano , or Epi-Tren , or any other combo of higher androgen ratio that would cause BP mishaps...

[Resolve]

I am just now starting to notice a tad bit of strength loss, I believe I'm 3 weeks in of using the stuff. I was barely able to lift my one rep max.

I guess this should probably be expected due to the extremely low calories I've been taking in. HOWEVER; what's very interesting is this. My muscle mass has gotten leaner, and my body weight appears lighter while I'm walking around. But my body weight had not changed. I'm holding steady at 223lbs. I'm looking more leaner, more "cut" in the mirror, haven't loss any muscle, with just a tad bit of loss in strength (due to low calorie intake i assume.

Strange but interesting....

Go have a big cheat meal at a sushi buffet and that strength should come right back...

[southsideguy]

Go have a big cheat meal at a sushi buffet and that strength should come right back...

You're right, and it did This stuff is interesting to say the least. I can't wait for the write up. I've been noticing just a tad bit of heart burn to be honest (I actually pop 2 pills at once instead of one). But the fact that this stuff can actually demolish my appetite, without losing any muscle is quite strange.

[dollar662]

You're right, and it did This stuff is interesting to say the least. I can't wait for the write up. I've been noticing just a tad bit of heart burn to be honest (I actually pop 2 pills at once instead of one). But the fact that this stuff can actually demolish my appetite, without losing any muscle is quite strange.

Any reason for 2 pills instead of 1 ? Did you start at one and move to 2 ? any differences that you notice

Thanks

[southsideguy]

Any reason for 2 pills instead of 1 ? Did you start at one and move to 2 ? any differences that you notice

Thanks

Well, a more of a "balls to the wall" sort of guy, and allot of times I do things that I recommend other people shouldn't do. I'm a huge risk taker.

With that said, I did notice a difference. On one pill I could tell that my appetite was not the same. But when I experimented with two, my appetitive was virtually non existent. I also experienced slight heart burn. Calories down, strength went down slightly, but no loss in muscle what so ever. I did lose some body fat. After a few cheat meals, my strength came back.

[Resolve]

You're right, and it did This stuff is interesting to say the least. I can't wait for the write up. I've been noticing just a tad bit of heart burn to be honest (I actually pop 2 pills at once instead of one). But the fact that this stuff can actually demolish my appetite, without losing any muscle is quite strange.

Yeah, the heart burn makes sense what with the allyl isothiocyanate and capsaicin in there. Should diminish if you increase your fluid intake when dosing. Of course, 2 pills at once definitely contributes to feeling that way too.

[Celorza]

Sorry if this has been asked before Matt, but would you see any:

-Pro
-Con
-Reason

To use Vanillean on a PH/DS cycle? Let's say one that raises BP like Epi+Stano , or Epi-Tren , or any other combo of higher androgen ratio that would cause BP mishaps...

Bump

[Resolve]

Bump

The Evodiamine in Vanillean may increase blood pressure in some individuals. For this reason I would be cautious using it during a cycle, especially if Tren is involved.Before even considering using it on cycle, see how you respond to Vanillean off-cycle, and keep an eye on your blood pressure throughout its use.

[uubiduu]

how does vanillean stacks with PES Alphamine?

[Resolve]

how does vanillean stacks with PES Alphamine?

It's a great stack, just expect to sweat your ass off!

[arthurprs]

Hello, I'm looking for a stimulant-free fat-burner for my brother, he is 17 and overweight.
My main concern right now is appetite suppression, how does Vanillean help in this area?
Any other suggestions to control his hunger?

[BulkPerf]

Hello, I'm looking for a stimulant-free for my brother, he is 17 and overweight.
My main concern right now is appetite suppression, how does Vanillean help in this area?
Any other suggestions to control his hunger?

Crushes my hunger or atleast i forget to eat.

[dsade]

Hello, I'm looking for a stimulant-free fat-burner for my brother, he is 17 and overweight.
My main concern right now is appetite suppression, how does Vanillean help in this area?
Any other suggestions to control his hunger?

Appetite suppression is definitely pronounced, which is all the more impressive given that it's stim-free.

[cubsfan815]

I am thinking about giving this a go. I need to find something to help demolish my appetite. I am currently 310lbs and need to do something. I was in car accident 3 weeks ago, and have not been cleared to workout. So all I do is eat lol.

I started taking T2/Shift Monday, and have had good results in the past with it. From what I've read I assume I can run VL along with it?

[dsade]

I am thinking about giving this a go. I need to find something to help demolish my appetite. I am currently 310lbs and need to do something. I was in car accident 3 weeks ago, and have not been cleared to workout. So all I do is eat lol.

I started taking T2/Shift Monday, and have had good results in the past with it. From what I've read I assume I can run VL along with it?

Yeah that would be fine.

[testosteronet]

Shouldn't be a problem. Enjoy getting lean with vanilla bean.

[cubsfan815]

Shouldn't be a problem. Enjoy getting lean with vanilla bean.

HaHa nice jingle. I have a looooooooooong way to go to get lean. But hey got to start somewhere. I have been working on my before pic

[cubsfan815]

Yeah that would be fine.

Thanks for quick response. I'm really excited to give it a try