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    also... anyone ever heard of prepping the chicken in bioiling water? my buddy told thats his secret on getting cut.. and thats all he ate fpr his protein.... hmmm would taste terrible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87
    also... anyone ever heard of prepping the chicken in bioiling water? my buddy told thats his secret on getting cut.. and thats all he ate fpr his protein.... hmmm would taste terrible....
    Yeah I have a friend who does this but only in the final weeks. Helps cut out sodium
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    FWIW I found CLA 1000g for 45bucks. Some SMART bulk POWDERS site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash
    FWIW I found CLA 1000g for 45bucks. Some SMART bulk POWDERS site.
    oooo how mich bulk monster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87

    oooo how mich bulk monster?
    Ya let me know too, Im going to need more soon. Also do you know what source it is? Clarinol? Safflower? I know there's some that are considered bad, and I think its because it has linoleic acid in it as well... Isn't there a ratio isomers and polymers you're supposed to look for? I'm still researching the stuff...
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    You'll know if you need to kick into a higher gear as you start getting closer, and if you respond well to epi throw it in. I've been wanting to try a long epi cycle for awhile, I hear it gets pretty sweet after 5 weeks, and I'm thinking 9. Plus if it really does block aromatizing then it seems like a good stack with test...

    Boiled chicken is alright, I've done it when I've been low on cooking options... Seems pretty prime if you're trying to lock in your diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Ya let me know too, Im going to need more soon. Also do you know what source it is? Clarinol? Safflower? I know there's some that are considered bad, and I think its because it has linoleic acid in it as well... Isn't there a ratio isomers and polymers you're supposed to look for? I'm still researching the stuff...
    Was reading about this today as well and I'm . It has a 1000 count tub of 1g caps for $45 dollars US (Not sure I can directly name the company since it's a direct competitor as NP- it's not hard to deduce what company it is if you can google ). It just says standardized for 70% cla but I believe they are a sister company of Primaforce which also uses a 70% standardization

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    Nutrition Facts
    Serving Size 1 Softgel
    Servings Per Container 180


    Amount Per Serving
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    Calories
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    Calories from Fat
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    Total Fat
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    2%
    Saturated Fat
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    Cis-9, Trans-11 Isomer
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    Trans-10, Cis-12 Isomer
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    *Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.



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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash

    Was reading about this today as well and I'm . It has a 1000 count tub of 1g caps for $45 dollars US (Not sure I can directly name the company since it's a direct competitor as NP- it's not hard to deduce what company it is if you can google ). It just says standardized for 70% cla but I believe they are a sister company of Primaforce which also uses a 70% standardization

    Primaforce label-

    Nutrition Facts
    Serving Size 1 Softgel
    Servings Per Container 180

    Amount Per Serving
    %Daily Value

    Calories
    9.0


    Calories from Fat
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    Total Fat
    1.0 g
    2%
    Saturated Fat
    0.0 g
    0%
    Polyunsaturated Fat
    1.0 g
    Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA)
    700.0 mg


    Sunflower/Safflower Oil (High Linoleic Acid)
    1000.0 mg


    Cis-9, Trans-11 Isomer
    300.0 mg


    Trans-10, Cis-12 Isomer
    330.0 mg


    *Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

    ooooo likin it.... gotta get me some... wish I had more money lol
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    dang dude.... hr of cardio then legs front squats and 100 reps lunges each leg.... immmmm done..... cranked the heater on to 85.... that was toasty....
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    getting in hour of cardio, and some times splitting it up 30 min twice a day.... dont really have a regimin right now.... just kinda doing it when I can....
    anyone recommend a good fat burner just curious... mine give me energy... but I dont think its working fat wise
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    by the way 6 wks out im starting epi... right now im going to get my joints lubricated as much as possible.
    I have a huge bag of epi pills... think there estane... I can run forever lol but was thinkin two pills majority of the run.... ill be pregaming my liver juice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87
    by the way 6 wks out im starting epi... right now im going to get my joints lubricated as much as possible.
    I have a huge bag of epi pills... think there estane... I can run forever lol but was thinkin two pills majority of the run.... ill be pregaming my liver juice...
    You can throw me 6 weeks worth if you want haha.

    Fasted AM, post workout & late evening are all solid times for cardio. Make sure there's a 6hr gap between them (generally speaking) and you're good to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87
    getting in hour of cardio, and some times splitting it up 30 min twice a day.... dont really have a regimin right now.... just kinda doing it when I can....
    anyone recommend a good fat burner just curious... mine give me energy... but I dont think its working fat wise
    Ephedra/caffeine/aspirin is effective, clen is good if you can handle it, the stuff makes me feel like ****. And when you're on cycle t3 is said to work really well - you just need to he on cycle cause it burns muscle too. Personally I'd just do 2 weeks on eca 1 week off with benedryl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smash1904

    Ephedra/caffeine/aspirin is effective, clen is good if you can handle it, the stuff makes me feel like ****. And when you're on cycle t3 is said to work really well - you just need to he on cycle cause it burns muscle too. Personally I'd just do 2 weeks on eca 1 week off with benedryl.
    never ran that old school cycle... why benadryl after?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    You can throw me 6 weeks worth if you want haha.

    Fasted AM, post workout & late evening are all solid times for cardio. Make sure there's a 6hr gap between them (generally speaking) and you're good to go
    haha im sure you would like that.... I bought it back when nutra sold the stuff lol.... I would love to do cardio at those times but this week... work has been throwing everything at me, so the only time we are at the dock is 2200... then I can work out for two hours ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87

    never ran that old school cycle... why benadryl after?
    Cause your nervous system down regulates, and the benedryl will resensitize you to the stack so it stays effective.
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    oooo after one week off do you go back? and what are the dosages on aspirin and caffeine... already have a ton of caffeine lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87

    haha im sure you would like that.... I bought it back when nutra sold the stuff lol.... I would love to do cardio at those times but this week... work has been throwing everything at me, so the only time we are at the dock is 2200... then I can work out for two hours ...
    That sucks. Begging of my prep was like that. Actually, I ran epistane for 8 weeks. Totally bunk, did nothing. I'll never buy an IBE product as long as I live.

    About the ECA stack, 25/200/81 (e/c/a) is what most do, and myself. I don't think you really need to take time off. I don't take benadryl either, I don't think it's needed. The pro v. con of doing it isn worth it. Maybe take 1 before bed while still taking it. ECA still gives me a heck of a boost and I'm going on 5 weeks non stop.
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    ok ill loom into it... you think I could stack it with epistane?
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    Yeah. No problem there.

    Smash, I don't want it to seem like I'm saying you're wrong. Your suggestion of ECA/Benadryl cycle makes sense (just like with clen) I was merely stating, to myself. The advantage of doing that, to me, doesn't outweigh the benifits from getting the fat burning for contest prep.
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    subd. Im doing my first comp oct 6th as well. lot of good stuff in this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4
    subd. Im doing my first comp oct 6th as well. lot of good stuff in this thread
    In San Fran?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    In San Fran?
    Nope anchorage
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4

    Nope anchorage
    Ah I see, there's one in San Fran same day. Thinking of also doing that show, but in physique
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    Ah I see, there's one in San Fran same day. Thinking of also doing that show, but in physique
    Good luck on physique bro!! I'm doing Europa Dallas in 3 weeks!
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    nice! physique you dont have to be as cut right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    Ah I see, there's one in San Fran same day. Thinking of also doing that show, but in physique
    Good luck on physique bro!! I'm doing Europa Dallas in 3 weeks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Ah I see, there's one in San Fran same day. Thinking of also doing that show, but in physique
    ill be doing physique as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water
    Yeah. No problem there.

    Smash, I don't want it to seem like I'm saying you're wrong. Your suggestion of ECA/Benadryl cycle makes sense (just like with clen) I was merely stating, to myself. The advantage of doing that, to me, doesn't outweigh the benifits from getting the fat burning for contest prep.
    Haha well what myself and a lot of other people do isn't always what's recommended. Sure I run ephedra for a lot longer than 2 weeks at a time, doesn't necessarily mean I should. And I've read ephedra is like using a sledge hammer to nail in nails so the 2 on 1 off with benedryl is both healthier and makes the on time more effective. Running longer and increasing the dose is always an option, and if you're ok with what you're doing to yourself so be it. I was merely stating a recommended protocol cause that seems... ethical? I'd still stick with taking benedryl before bed for the duration, or that research chemical antihistamine that's a lot stronger than benedryl, so you at least have a little help/benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smash1904

    Haha well what myself and a lot of other people do isn't always what's recommended. Sure I run ephedra for a lot longer than 2 weeks at a time, doesn't necessarily mean I should. And I've read ephedra is like using a sledge hammer to nail in nails so the 2 on 1 off with benedryl is both healthier and makes the on time more effective. Running longer and increasing the dose is always an option, and if you're ok with what you're doing to yourself so be it. I was merely stating a recommended protocol cause that seems... ethical? I'd still stick with taking benedryl before bed for the duration, or that research chemical antihistamine that's a lot stronger than benedryl, so you at least have a little help/benefit.
    Yeah I know what you mean, I just re-read what I had wrote and thought "Ahh he might think I'm being a dick" didn't want that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    Yeah I know what you mean, I just re-read what I had wrote and thought "Ahh he might think I'm being a dick" didn't want that.
    jeez dick....
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    Haha no not at all, everyone here is pretty respectful for the most part, and I like the pool of information that gets put out. I think I learn more here than I did in college.
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    ok fellas.... got off from work about 1850 so now my training gets more serious lol.... got a dream water from walmart as I was getting some chicken and my crystal light green tea, love that stuff. this stuff actually kicks in hard lol.... im goofy.... and dont care about a thing... I actually feel like I took an ambien.... but im about to crash out tonight gotta be at the gym to do my hr cardio... then legs later that afternoon... ill post up my lifts tom. and ill weight myself when I wake up....
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    170 this morning!!!! woot woot!!!

    update: started pulsing epi last night... will be taking 40 mg monday wend and friday....

    ok did legs today some hams but mostly quads, calves, and catch up on triceps.
    leg extensions 3x10
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    leg extensions 3x6 heavy 20 light
    hack squats 4x10
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    tricep kickbacks 3x10
    rope overhead cables 3x12,10,6

    pump was unbelievable..... if I kept the pump that I had at the gym and was less fat I would win with no doubt in my mind... feeling good... four cups of green tea through the day....
    cleaning out my supplement cabinet. added in some zma... live juice.... glucosamine and msm...
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    you def see the difference this week... im keeping it at this calorie level... seems to be doing the trick....

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    justhoping aftermy midsection my chest will start to loose the fat in it and rip up.... hoping the epiwill help that...
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    Coming a long nicely man, goal is to not peak to early so don't worry about anything yet. You've made great progress, keep at it!
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    right... im thinking I should be alright keeping the carbs right here... I was 173 this morning... I understand weight fluctuates.... but just saying ill keep carbs right here... see what happens in a week....

    30 minutes on bike and 30 min brisk walk this morning....
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    increased weight every five lbs good heavy weight at last sets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87
    right... im thinking I should be alright keeping the carbs right here... I was 173 this morning... I understand weight fluctuates.... but just saying ill keep carbs right here... see what happens in a week....
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    That's why I only weigh myself first thing Saturday mornings about 25min after my coffee, lol.
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    nice... yeah I try to avoid coffee cause it flushes me out so bad lol.... maybe before the contest lol
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