Polygraph

[bezoe]

Thinking about doing a show in a couple months and theres no way im gonna try to shred down without some help. Ive seen lists and Im sure what I plan to use in on there.

I just want to know how the polygraph screening works.. anybody ever passed and been "on"? And what exactly will they do if you dont pass? Im sure these machines have flaws. I want to hear some personal experiences

And if youre gonna flame me dont bother posting at all.. i dont wanna hear how i shouldnt do a "natural" contest if I know ive used banned substances and the morality issue with it. I know for a fact that not everyone in these shows is natural.

Im gonna try out the npc soon but no shows coming up in my area so i wanna get some more experience in the meantime.

[bezoe]

lol i guess its a personal choice

[aj power]

If your a psychopath/sociopath you will have no issue passing.

You can also try cailmitive type drugs. I saw on a movie that you can put a thumb tac in your big toe and just push it in and out randomly during the questioning the pain response will set off that you are lieing ... so make sure you push it when you make confirmed truthful statements yes thats a queen of hearts ouch ... basically the operator will have to conclude you have an invalid test result ...

Of course they also might not work and you get busted, named and shamed ...

[Docmattic]

When they ask you a question, ask another to yourself and answer that question honestly. have one yes question and one no question.

[JajaNe20]

I personally wouldn't do the tac thing in my damn foot or tell myself fake montra's over and over again to pass. If anything just go in and lie, and see if it works! If you don't want to go that sketchy route then go to a non-tested show. I mean to compete is to compete, you should be more concerned with looking better each time you step on stage then thinking about "first place." Personal growth and betterness, compete in an organization where you believe you truly belong. Best of luck

[bezoe]

I personally wouldn't do the tac thing in my damn foot or tell myself fake montra's over and over again to pass. If anything just go in and lie, and see if it works! If you don't want to go that sketchy route then go to a non-tested show. I mean to compete is to compete, you should be more concerned with looking better each time you step on stage then thinking about "first place." Personal growth and betterness, compete in an organization where you believe you truly belong. Best of luck

Well I def dont think I belong in a "natural" organization. Even if I hadnt dabbled with PED's, I think my broad shoulders and overall mass doesnt fit in with a lot of natural shows. I like the npc but i want to work up to it..

thanks for the advice.. just wanted to hear how reliable the test is, bc i wanna do this upcoming show but i know ive used prohibited substances in the past and dont wanna fail the test and be scrutinized.

[steppinRazor]

I've heard 20mgs of valium works wonders on polygraphs..then again there might be an issue with the drug screen lol

[JajaNe20]

My friend, don't think of us naturals as small. Take a look at the man! Have fun competing with him

[JajaNe20]

I am not sure, but in all honesty I think you'd be alright. I am sure their has been guys who have passed man, don't worry about it. Go have fun and get your experience. Now if you look like jay cutler then I'd say you aren't foolin anyone lmao!

[bezoe]

I've heard 20mgs of valium works wonders on polygraphs..then again there might be an issue with the drug screen lol

yea that might be something they ask about lol

My friend, don't think of us naturals as small. Take a look at the man! Have fun competing with him

thats the first time ive seen a natty look like that. If he is, hes an anomoly lol

[JajaNe20]

nah, your just not familiar with the top dawgs. Most people don't bodybuild naturally (perfectly) for 5+ years. The slow gains gets to people and they find another route. We are out there my friend, go hard son!

[bezoe]

nah, your just not familiar with the top dawgs. Most people don't bodybuild naturally (perfectly) for 5+ years. The slow gains gets to people and they find another route. We are out there my friend, go hard son!

to be honest hes ripped but hes lacks mass. I dont want to look like that.. even though i admit its very admirable its too little for me. I wanna look big with a shirt on lol and not a size xxs. Not saying hes not natrual, but simply you claiming he is doesnt hold merit.

Ive been lifting seriously for 3+ years.

I dont wanna get into a natural guys are just as good argument, im not interested in hearing that. If you train natural good for you. I train harder than most and being older and more experienced than you, im defenitely not your son.

Anybody else with polygraph experience?

[JajaNe20]

Haha your funny! I was just messing with you and not causing an arguement, but i won't back down lil man! You think he's little? Your dumb as a brick, wait till you shred to 3% bdoyfat and you'll be a small stringy little terd. I am sure 5 foot 8 and being 200 lbs isn't small, in fact it's only a few inches too tall to qualify for the 200 class Mr. O. Yea he's small he has 20 inch arms at no bodyfat, you don't even have 20's at 25% fat you troll. Who do you think you are, haha i laugh in your face. You don't even respect hard working people, because your probably one to bash others in order for you to make yourself feel better through your mantra's and inferiorities. Lifting for three years and you think your something, I laugh in your face. You couldn't even carry my gym bag, SON!

[bezoe]

Haha your funny! I was just messing with you and not causing an arguement, but i won't back down lil man! You think he's little? Your dumb as a brick, wait till you shred to 3% bdoyfat and you'll be a small stringy little terd. I am sure 5 foot 8 and being 200 lbs isn't small, in fact it's only a few inches too tall to qualify for the 200 class Mr. O. Yea he's small he has 20 inch arms at no bodyfat, you don't even have 20's at 25% fat you troll. Who do you think you are, haha i laugh in your face. You don't even respect hard working people, because your probably one to bash others in order for you to make yourself feel better through your mantra's and inferiorities. Lifting for three years and you think your something, I laugh in your face. You couldn't even carry my gym bag, SON!

Wow you are really riding this guys ****. I looked him up.. doug miller. Yea his physique is quite impressive but what about you? Instead of holding this guys picture up with one hand and jerking off with the other why dont you show me what you look like. 25%? Ohh i dont even know why im wasting this 60 seconds of my life on this. Im 220, 12% and 19 inch arms but hell i could get on here and say anything, like "im natural". Who gives a ****. Stop being a little fan boy and do something for yourself. And with 225 posts since 2008 I wouldnt be calling anyone else a troll you frail little s**t

[JajaNe20]

Haha! Okay buddy boy so we are almost the same size but I am 2% lower body fat and same weight. You should choose your words carefully lil mang. I look up to him because he is something I will achieve, he has alot of time on me like 7 years. Oh and honestly dont be a puhhsy, if you took **** man up and get last place you scrub. People like you are weak, and dishonest.

[JajaNe20]

Man up, all this thread says is "I am a scared bit*h that took stuff and don't want to compete with people who do, please help me find my baIIs."

[Ziricote]

Are we running on the assumption that no one that competes in natural shows are using some form of PED?

[bezoe]

I look up to him because he is something I will achieve, he has alot of time on me like 7 years. Oh and honestly dont be a puhhsy, if you took **** man up and get last place you scrub. People like you are weak, and dishonest.

choose my words carefully "mang"? you are a real internet thug arent you lol. Keep whining about me being dishonest and keep being a little twirp who thinks to get ahead you gotta be "pure" and "natural". Youll never achieve **** i guarantee you wont look like "your friend" lol. Keep trying and keep sucking **** though, you little keyboard warrior

Man up, all this thread says is "I am a scared bit*h that took stuff and don't want to compete with people who do, please help me find my baIIs."

****ing troll you love to talk **** dont you? Youre the one in the gym running his little dicksucking trap the whole time you emaciated little twirp i dont believe your stats and all the bull**** youre spewing now GTFO and go promote other people

[bezoe]

Are we running on the assumption that no one that competes in natural shows are using some form of PED?

careful dont burst jaja's bubble it might rehash memories of when he discovered santa claus didnt exist

[aj power]

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