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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    I'm back at waking up at 4 getting off at 3. Wish I was able to use my derm right now. Need energy!
    why aren't you able to use it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    why aren't you able to use it?
    I just got off not too long ago. Plus I'm only 24. Don't wanna do too much at my age. I like to spread everything out. Even natty cycles I only do like 1 or 2 long ones (8 -12) weeks a year
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    I just got off not too long ago. Plus I'm only 24. Don't wanna do too much at my age. I like to spread everything out. Even natty cycles I only do like 1 or 2 long ones (8 -12) weeks a year
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    Can't wait to start my Dermacrine. So, if I'm taking my showers @ night, it's still ok to apply in the mornings? I usually put lotion on after showering. Should I not do this around my back when using Dermacrine?

    If I'm going to the gym for cardio, should I wait till after cardio (lots of sweat) when my skin is dry to apply it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    Can't wait to start my Dermacrine. So, if I'm taking my showers @ night, it's still ok to apply in the mornings? I usually put lotion on after showering. Should I not do this around my back when using Dermacrine?

    If I'm going to the gym for cardio, should I wait till after cardio (lots of sweat) when my skin is dry to apply it?
    i try to give myself minimum of 3 hours after applying for showereing/swimming/cardio.

    mornings are best for me!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i try to give myself minimum of 3 hours after applying for showereing/swimming/cardio.

    mornings are best for me!!!
    i agree
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    I found after experimenting 1 squirt was all I needed, not 3. 3 made me feel like crap and numb.
    1 squirt adds something to my day, you get a buzz and you feel it drying you out. I mainly use it for days when I need an alpha mentality or a feel good if ive been on the beers

    1 squirt lasts me ages too but gives me insomnia if done at night, so experiment and listen to your body.

    Everyones so keen to overdose everything these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    I found after experimenting 1 squirt was all I needed, not 3. 3 made me feel like crap and numb.
    1 squirt adds something to my day, you get a buzz and you feel it drying you out. I mainly use it for days when I need an alpha mentality or a feel good if ive been on the beers

    1 squirt lasts me ages too but gives me insomnia if done at night, so experiment and listen to your body.

    Everyones so keen to overdose everything these days

    p.s. Get on the velvet bean if you can sleep, usp powerful is always on hand for me.
    i wouldnt feel anything with 1 pump
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    I'm up to 10 per day.
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    Damn dude!! 3 wasn't enough? What are you feeling/seeing now with 10, compared to just 3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    Damn dude!! 3 wasn't enough? What are you feeling/seeing now with 10, compared to just 3?
    Started it at 7, and went up to 10. It's mostly just an increase in good mood, better concentration, relaxed feeling, better libido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post

    Started it at 7, and went up to 10. It's mostly just an increase in good mood, better concentration, relaxed feeling, better libido.
    Damn, maybe I should've ordered 2!! Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    Damn, maybe I should've ordered 2!! Lol.

    It was the last time I was able to afford to purchase some supplements a while back. So I ordered 5 bottles to really test it out. I have low natural T levels so it seemed to help out and there was a dramatic increase in energy and mood when I first started taking it. Now it just seems to have leveled off and I do feel a slight boost after applying it each day but it just seems to be "maintenance" at this point. I'm not sure but I'd guess my DHEA levels are naturally low also. So the first week it was night and day as far as mood, energy, confidence. I mean extremely dramatic change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    It was the last time I was able to afford to purchase some supplements a while back. So I ordered 5 bottles to really test it out. I have low natural T levels so it seemed to help out and there was a dramatic increase in energy and mood when I first started taking it. Now it just seems to have leveled off and I do feel a slight boost after applying it each day but it just seems to be "maintenance" at this point. I'm not sure but I'd guess my DHEA levels are naturally low also. So the first week it was night and day as far as mood, energy, confidence. I mean extremely dramatic change.
    what you are describing is very close to how trt was for me when i 1st started, i guess the biggest difference being the trt took longer to kick in!!!!!!!!!!

    i would suggest weaning off so you don't have a dramatic drop off, maybe even run an ai/test booster--not so much as a pct but to keep mood and energy from tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    what you are describing is very close to how trt was for me when i 1st started, i guess the biggest difference being the trt took longer to kick in!!!!!!!!!!

    i would suggest weaning off so you don't have a dramatic drop off, maybe even run an ai/test booster--not so much as a pct but to keep mood and energy from tanking.
    Yeah I've got plenty of stuff to use for that. Test Powder, Anabeta, Alphamax...Erase Pro, which I'm on my second bottle now and I should finish up Dermacrine before I finish the bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Yeah I've got plenty of stuff to use for that. Test Powder, Anabeta, Alphamax...Erase Pro, which I'm on my second bottle now and I should finish up Dermacrine before I finish the bottle.
    excellent...just wanted to give you a headsup, my friend!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    I found after experimenting 1 squirt was all I needed, not 3. 3 made me feel like crap and numb.
    1 squirt adds something to my day, you get a buzz and you feel it drying you out. I mainly use it for days when I need an alpha mentality or a feel good if ive been on the beers

    1 squirt lasts me ages too but gives me insomnia if done at night, so experiment and listen to your body.

    Everyones so keen to overdose everything these days

    p.s. Get on the velvet bean if you can sleep, usp powerful is always on hand for me.
    the recommended dosages are listed by weight, and shoud give maximum effectiveness for most. if you are getting good results at a lower dose think of yourself as fortunate, dermacrine is a true bargain for you!!!

    btw-BPS endosurge also contains macuna, plus 3,4 -divanill and maca...great to stack with derma, in my experience!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    It was the last time I was able to afford to purchase some supplements a while back. So I ordered 5 bottles to really test it out. I have low natural T levels so it seemed to help out and there was a dramatic increase in energy and mood when I first started taking it. Now it just seems to have leveled off and I do feel a slight boost after applying it each day but it just seems to be "maintenance" at this point. I'm not sure but I'd guess my DHEA levels are naturally low also. So the first week it was night and day as far as mood, energy, confidence. I mean extremely dramatic change.
    At the end of my bottle I used 6 or 7 on the last day, as there wasn't enough left for another day anyway. I felt the exact same way.

    I must have lower DHEA levels as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    btw-BPS endosurge also contains macuna, plus 3,4 -divanill and maca...great to stack with derma, in my experience!!!
    Ordering that soon!! That would also be perfect as a stand alone product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    Ordering that soon!! That would also be perfect as a stand alone product.
    I concur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    Ordering that soon!! That would also be perfect as a stand alone product.
    formasurge/endosurge/dermacrine was one of the best stacks i've ran...too bad forma was dc'ed!!!
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    I just got an email about endosurge original version on sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I just got an email about endosurge original version on sale.
    Really? Wow.

    I didn't think it was in stock anywhere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I just got an email about endosurge original version on sale.
    Holy crap, where??
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    formasurge/endosurge/dermacrine was one of the best stacks i've ran...too bad forma was dc'ed!!!
    I still need to try this. I may do it this summer maybe
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    can anyone here testify as to how soon effects are visable? i dont know jack about prohormones, except that a transdermal like this or other methods designed to get around the absortion issues are superior. i had tried a liposomal version and quit after 12 days of nothing happening, but then i was reading reviews for a dhea prohormone that was designed to convert to 1-test and a reviewer said to expect results in three weeks, a timeframe which i had never tried for regular dhea . im basically interested in any effect this could have for energy/vigilance. im also interested in what the verdict is around here as far as cycling dhea goes, as there seems to be some debate online as to whether that is necessary (and i see someone here going on four months)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    can anyone here testify as to how soon effects are visable? i dont know jack about prohormones, except that a transdermal like this or other methods designed to get around the absortion issues are superior. i had tried a liposomal version and quit after 12 days of nothing happening, but then i was reading reviews for a dhea prohormone that was designed to convert to 1-test and a reviewer said to expect results in three weeks, a timeframe which i had never tried for regular dhea . im basically interested in any effect this could have for energy/vigilance. im also interested in what the verdict is around here as far as cycling dhea goes, as there seems to be some debate online as to whether that is necessary (and i see someone here going on four months)
    i will be honest with you, do not expect old school ph-like results with dermacrine....but the energy and vitality is really nice, and it comes quickly for most users. it is recommended to go no more than 2 months on dermacrine then take time off.

    i went longer than that due to my being on trt....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    i will be honest with you, do not expect old school ph-like results with dermacrine....but the energy and vitality is really nice, and it comes quickly for most users. it is recommended to go no more than 2 months on dermacrine then take time off.

    i went longer than that due to my being on trt....
    Thanks for the info. About the energy you experience from it; are we talking less hours slept in a night, enhanced productivity during the day, maybe even some more endurance in the gym? Im looking at dermacrine because im wondering if the nutricology i dosed at 150mg was actually liposomal. Ive had liposomal thst did get things right to the bloodstream, but there was alot of lecithin involved, whereas nutricology used he liposome spray, which i hav ereason to believe doesnt work the way it should.
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    I'd like me some Dermacrine to replace my preg and dhea capsules. I just started Pump Spray by E-Pharm and am applying that twice a day all over, so I wonder if this would cross interact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    I'd like me some Dermacrine to replace my preg and dhea capsules. I just started Pump Spray by E-Pharm and am applying that twice a day all over, so I wonder if this would cross interact...
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    Question about dermacrine. Once it dries is it ok to put moisturizer on over the dermacrine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Question about dermacrine. Once it dries is it ok to put moisturizer on over the dermacrine?
    x2 - I want to hear BPS rep's opinion on this, too. I asked the same thing just today about Pump Spray in E-Pharm's section, because I moisturize after every shower with YES to Carrots stuff and my skin looks and feels awesome. Having healthier skin does make for more efficient permeability...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Question about dermacrine. Once it dries is it ok to put moisturizer on over the dermacrine?
    What kind of time frame are we talking about in between the two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    What kind of time frame are we talking about in between the two?
    I'm not sure that's why I'm asking. Should I wait one hour? Two hours? Or just skip it all together? I want to do whatever gets the ingredients through my skin the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post

    I'm not sure that's why I'm asking. Should I wait one hour? Two hours? Or just skip it all together? I want to do whatever gets the ingredients through my skin the best
    When do you normally apply the dermacrine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    When do you normally apply the dermacrine?
    Not using it quite yet but when I do I'll use it in the morning
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    Not using it quite yet but when I do I'll use it in the morning
    I think having a hot shower (opens your pores) before applying is your best bet. I'm not sure about the lotion, as I never have used that. What is this Pump Spray? Never heard of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post

    Not using it quite yet but when I do I'll use it in the morning
    After a shower usually or no?
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