Vector Blood Work

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by scump View Post
    Hold on a second, in the initial post you just chuck up bloods then say you're on nothing... now its folli, viron, clomid and ???

    That makes your first post very misleading man. Don't get me wrong I love BLR and think vector looks great, but not mentioning those is very misleading, hell clomid alone can give those results. The only thing that Vector could be doing could be doing is inhibiting CYP2D6, which would mean anyone not on clomid would not see any benefit to test.

    Now with the above said don't get too touchy because Vector isn't even marketed as a test booster, so just because it doesn't boost test doesn't mean that it wont work.
    On nothing DIFFERENT. Been on those other things for MONTHS to YEARS and never had test be so high as it was from the draw I did once using vector. Leaving vector as the VARIABLE. And all other Supps as constants.
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  2. Would be good to see some corraboration from some other person unaffiliated with the supp industry
    How anyone could attempt to spin inferences of massive test boosting effects on this single case with a myriad of confounding factors is beyond me but i know theres lot of gullible people out there. BLRs own internal testing suggests nil to minimal test increases if we are to believe previous posts. To jump from that to this to insinuate vector could be more effective than clomid for boosting test' is astounding to be frank!
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  3. @brundle to my best recollection mentioned some anomalies with blood work but true, overall there were no variations plus or minus. This happens to be one, and yes, let's see anyone that follows up with similar outstanding results with their bloods. My interest is piqued, but expectations remain more level minded.

    I believe the variation in @chedapalooza 's bloods, and am wondering the specific mechanisms at play, or inter-play though we may not discover this. I am looking at the results in the mirror and am fine with the less than scientific pressures to weigh myself, and measure for body fat. It's a long-term journey to wit I am confident will result in my desired outcomes.

    There are so many other areas to focus on with Vector. I love reading the stories along the way.

    -M
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  4. Was your RBC/hemoglobin/hematocrit tested? Any changes in that?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by ucheoma View Post
    Would be good to see some corraboration from some other person unaffiliated with the supp industry
    How anyone could attempt to spin inferences of massive test boosting effects on this single case with a myriad of confounding factors is beyond me but i know theres lot of gullible people out there. BLRs own internal testing suggests nil to minimal test increases if we are to believe previous posts. To jump from that to this to insinuate vector could be more effective than clomid for boosting test' is astounding to be frank!
    I am going to do it. Got bloods coming up in a couple weeks post PCT, if they are reasonably 'normal' i will run vector afterwards for 2 months then retest.

    I am interested in this product, but generally skeptical of all natty anabolics, so curious to test my skepticism.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    @brundle to my best recollection mentioned some anomalies with blood work but true, overall there were no variations plus or minus. This happens to be one, and yes, let's see anyone that follows up with similar outstanding results with their bloods. My interest is piqued, but expectations remain more level minded.

    I believe the variation in @chedapalooza 's bloods, and am wondering the specific mechanisms at play, or inter-play though we may not discover this. I am looking at the results in the mirror and am fine with the less than scientific pressures to weigh myself, and measure for body fat. It's a long-term journey to wit I am confident will result in my desired outcomes.

    There are so many other areas to focus on with Vector. I love reading the stories along the way.

    -M
    Id love to see your before and after pics on Vector as you deem it so praiseworthy

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ucheoma View Post
    Id love to see your before and after pics on Vector as you deem it so praiseworthy
    There are a few reasons I'd rather not offer up before and after pics.

    • I'm a rep, and feel it should be customers words and images, not mine.
    • I'm shy, but I've logged a lot of products in the past.
    • and I don't have a before pic that fits with the start of my run.

    I differ to this thread where we have customers entering a contest with before (dated) and after pics.
    BLR VECTOR transformation contest!!!

    Your skepticism is welcome, and I know the results of others more convincing.
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  8. Thatís an odd contest though. Heís allowing you to take multiple (natural ďanabolicsĒ) supplements alongside vector. Look at the list of supplements some of those guys are taking WITH vector (one guy is using ABE and follidrone with vector)...

    Seems misleading
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    That’s an odd contest though. He’s allowing you to take multiple (natural “anabolics”) supplements alongside vector. Look at the list of supplements some of those guys are taking WITH vector (one guy is using ABE and follidrone with vector)...

    Seems misleading
    I appreciate that someone challenged him about this, and he dropped the ABE and is going with just FD2, and Vector.
    I don't see a problem with that as they behave differently, and we have plenty of FD2 solo runs to compare. You may have missed his response.

    "Thanks for the heads up bro! I don’t really know what I’m doing. I lurked around here for a long time when I first started lifting to learn some s**t and see what guys were running. If you think ABE is a bad idea then I’ll take your word for it and stick with Vector and Follidrone."

    I suggest people begin with Vector solo as he did then add in FD2 in week 2 or more importantly 4 of the 8 or 12 total weeks. If you feel that isn't good enough, then focus on those only running Vector. There are plenty and will be
    quite a few more.

    The winner gets more BLR stuff, so using only BLR supplements to achieve their goal is of course best.

    -M
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    That’s an odd contest though. He’s allowing you to take multiple (natural “anabolics”) supplements alongside vector. Look at the list of supplements some of those guys are taking WITH vector (one guy is using ABE and follidrone with vector)...

    Seems misleading
    Tons of folks just running Vector bro. In my case, I have been using Folidrone for most of the last 2.5 years - I added Vector about 2 months ago. I have used every supplement out their over 30 plus years of training and never experienced anything like Vector. It is hands down better than Osta and more in line with Andro's but without the nasty side effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ucheoma View Post
    Id love to see your before and after pics on Vector as you deem it so praiseworthy
    I respect a persons choice when it comes to their privacy but pictures would be nice, especially when it comes to natural anabolics. When you read things like trained/advance users gaining 5-10 lbs itíd be easy to discern from pictures where it actually went.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigsmall View Post
    Tons of folks just running Vector bro. In my case, I have been using Folidrone for most of the last 2.5 years - I added Vector about 2 months ago. I have used every supplement out their over 30 plus years of training and never experienced anything like Vector. It is hands down better than Osta and more in line with Andro's but without the nasty side effects.
    Iíve used 4 bottles of FD2 and 2 of exotherm with noticeable results but they were ultimately just natty products. If Vector could stand up to the andros that would be incredible but thatís a bold claim. I know thereís a lot of anecdotal evidence of solid gains but weight and strength gains donít always result in pure lean mass gains. At least not the kind of hypertrophy people are looking for. Iíve run 1/4-Andro before and put on 7lbs in 6 weeks with no noticeable fat gain. I canít say definitively how much was lean mass but the size gains were evident and people around me definitely thought I was on something. Nothing natural Iíve tried has come close. That being said I plan to try at least 2 bottles of vector sometime this year once Iím into a massing phase again. Iím not expecting as much as people are claiming but if Iím wrong Iíll buy a lifetime supply lol.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Rand0m View Post
    I respect a persons choice when it comes to their privacy but pictures would be nice, especially when it comes to natural anabolics. When you read things like trained/advance users gaining 5-10 lbs it’d be easy to discern from pictures where it actually went.



    I’ve used 4 bottles of FD2 and 2 of exotherm with noticeable results but they were ultimately just natty products. If Vector could stand up to the andros that would be incredible but that’s a bold claim. I know there’s a lot of anecdotal evidence of solid gains but weight and strength gains don’t always result in pure lean mass gains. At least not the kind of hypertrophy people are looking for. I’ve run 1/4-Andro before and put on 7lbs in 6 weeks with no noticeable fat gain. I can’t say definitively how much was lean mass but the size gains were evident and people around me definitely thought I was on something. Nothing natural I’ve tried has come close. That being said I plan to try at least 2 bottles of vector sometime this year once I’m into a massing phase again. I’m not expecting as much as people are claiming but if I’m wrong I’ll buy a lifetime supply lol.
    I totally understand brother. You should be leery.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by BennyMagoo79 View Post
    I am going to do it. Got bloods coming up in a couple weeks post PCT, if they are reasonably 'normal' i will run vector afterwards for 2 months then retest.

    I am interested in this product, but generally skeptical of all natty anabolics, so curious to test my skepticism.
    Well to be fair Vector isn't a test booster. Not intended to be so while testosterone labs are great and I'm certainly interested in more it doesn't negate or validate the efficacy of the product in any way. If we got 300 labs that showed 0 testosterone rise it really wouldn't matter much. If it raises test... Awesome. If not oh well. Wasn't intended to. Test boost is just a bonus.
    If you want to test to see how the product works track weight, strength, body fat etc.
    These are the indicators.
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  14. The amount of sheer claims and non stop talk about this product reminds me of a fake Donald trump ad. For 50$ I'll order PHs from the UK. Not buying this hype

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mikeymike85 View Post
    The amount of sheer claims and non stop talk about this product reminds me of a fake Donald trump ad. For 50$ I'll order PHs from the UK. Not buying this hype
    I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to comment. Great Scott, you seem angry.
    If you want to use a PH, then that's your prerogative. I think it would cost a heck of a lot more than $50.

    When all is said and done with On Cycle Support, Post Cycle Support, Shipping. $150
    For $150, you can run Vector for 12 weeks, which is a far healthier investment.

    • My libido has increased
    • Sleep is better and love the vivid dreams
    • Energy and Endurance are up
    • Muscle pumps
    • I'm getting cut up and not only retaining but gaining muscle
    • I can now shoot spider web from my wrists... (ok, that was a lie)


    Just my honest experience. I really think you'd love it.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to comment. Great Scott, you seem angry.
    If you want to use a PH, then that's your prerogative. I think it would cost a heck of a lot more than $50.

    When all is said and done with On Cycle Support, Post Cycle Support, Shipping. $150
    For $150, you can run Vector for 12 weeks, which is a far healthier investment.

    • My libido has increased
    • Sleep is better and love the vivid dreams
    • Energy and Endurance are up
    • Muscle pumps
    • I'm getting cut up and not only retaining but gaining muscle
    • I can now shoot spider web from my wrists... (ok, that was a lie)


    Just my honest experience. I really think you'd love it.
    Yeah PH cycle gets really expensive with all other things you need.
    Now that natural supplements are getting good, why bother with PHs? Other than using the stashes we already have.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bosskardo View Post
    Yeah PH cycle gets really expensive with all other things you need.
    Now that natural supplements are getting good, why bother with PHs? Other than using the stashes we already have.
    I've never done a PH cycle, and think those are pretty much useless for what you pay for both in time; money; and the fact you have to have a PCT with a SERM (You know where I'm leading. Why not just do something else?

    I priced out an Andro 1/4 a while ago, and it came out to about $300 for properly dosed cycle. (All inclusive). A board sponsor was really pushing it then. I didn't bite, and went with BLR which was much less expensive for me, and I loved it. That reminds me, I have to pick up some Letrone. It's going to compliment Vector greatly. (Especially on my cut)

    • Decreased estrogen
    • Increased Testosterone
    • Increased HGH
    • Increased IGF-1
    • Increased T3 and T4 =increased metabolism.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    I've never done a PH cycle, and think those are pretty much useless for what you pay for both in time; money; and the fact you have to have a PCT with a SERM (You know where I'm leading. Why not just do something else?

    I priced out an Andro 1/4 a while ago, and it came out to about $300 for properly dosed cycle. (All inclusive). A board sponsor was really pushing it then. I didn't bite, and went with BLR which was much less expensive for me, and I loved it. That reminds me, I have to pick up some Letrone. It's going to compliment Vector greatly. (Especially on my cut)

    • Decreased estrogen
    • Increased Testosterone
    • Increased HGH
    • Increased IGF-1
    • Increased T3 and T4 =increased metabolism.
    I've been contemplating running a sarms cycle but it this point I'm torn between it or just ordering 3 more bottles of vector. Things have been going so good and with a week left in my last tub it just seems like the better choice....

  19. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to comment. Great Scott, you seem angry.
    If you want to use a PH, then that's your prerogative. I think it would cost a heck of a lot more than $50.

    When all is said and done with On Cycle Support, Post Cycle Support, Shipping. $150
    For $150, you can run Vector for 12 weeks, which is a far healthier investment.

    • My libido has increased
    • Sleep is better and love the vivid dreams
    • Energy and Endurance are up
    • Muscle pumps
    • I'm getting cut up and not only retaining but gaining muscle
    • I can now shoot spider web from my wrists... (ok, that was a lie)


    Just my honest experience. I really think you'd love it.
    Not angry, I didn't put a mean face emoji in there. Just saying the reps from your company seem to be pushing this product hard...IE see the bullet points on the majority of your posts showing the "benefits". Seems overkill from a sales point, not trying to down you but it just does. Also, PH's work, that's why they are banned... for $150 if you know where to look, you can have cycle support and PCT, at least pretty close.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mikeymike85 View Post
    Not angry, I didn't put a mean face emoji in there. Just saying the reps from your company seem to be pushing this product hard...IE see the bullet points on the majority of your posts showing the "benefits". Seems overkill from a sales point, not trying to down you but it just does. Also, PH's work, that's why they are banned... for $150 if you know where to look, you can have cycle support and PCT, at least pretty close.
    I will use bullet points in many posts even not related to BLR. That said.

    It's my job as a rep to illustrate the "features and benefits" of the company I rep. I'm glad you're not angry. It's the last thing I would wish, and respect your choices. I think they are going to be much harder to find (PH) as they are sold out most places. 1 AD has issues with shutdown, and sides. I then may suggest what others would. Just do steroids. Don't tippy toe around.

    Would I prefer this? Never. I'm natty, and prefer that for others whom do not wish to compete. I see it as self-harm in the long run. Additionally, as a former athlete whom never used PEDs, I try to discourage others attempting to get past WADA with various means.

    KR,
    -M
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by mikeymike85 View Post
    Not angry, I didn't put a mean face emoji in there. Just saying the reps from your company seem to be pushing this product hard...IE see the bullet points on the majority of your posts showing the "benefits". Seems overkill from a sales point, not trying to down you but it just does. Also, PH's work, that's why they are banned... for $150 if you know where to look, you can have cycle support and PCT, at least pretty close.
    The product sells itself bro - look at the hundreds of non-BLR reps comments.
    PH's are being banned cause they cause damage / can be complicated to manage.......not 'cause they work' lmao.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mikeymike85 View Post
    For 50$ I'll order PHs from the UK. Not buying this hype
    You can buy PHs or AAS for that price with much greater results.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Transhuman View Post
    You can buy PHs or AAS for that price with much greater results.
    Youíre comparing apples to oranges.
    Black Lion Research Rep

  24. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    You’re comparing apples to oranges.
    Comparing the price of one thing to the price of another isn't comparing apples to oranges.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Transhuman View Post
    Comparing the price of one thing to the price of another isn't comparing apples to oranges.
    Wasnít really referring to the price comparisons.
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