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Follidrone 2.0
Taking the place of Follidrone 1.0 this new formula is extremely effective for muscle building, fat loss and overall performance enhancement. Currently I dont know of anything that matches it. Below are dozens of reports, reviews and all the information you could ever want about Follidrone 2.0.
Take a min, read some of the thread and see why Follidrone 2.0 was voted product of the year in 2016.
So on to the label and ingredient panel.
Youll see we have new product packaging and labels but the old label is still visible for the ingredient panel.
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Epicatechin
Promotes AMPK
Increased Follistatin
Reduced myostatin
Reduded Activin A
Antioxidant


These days everyone already knows about Epicatechin so I wont spend alot of time here. Amazing stuff. There is a solid dose of Epicatechin in here along with a strong absorption enhancement package. We use several ingredients that prevent metabolism and allow epicatechin to be fully absorbed which in turn increases its effects many times over. All the benefits you have come to love from epicatechin, Muscle mass, strength, endurance, pump but MUCH stronger.


Ecklonia Cava: EC
Muscle mass
Fat loss
Promotes AMPK
Increased Follistatin
Reduced myostatin
Reduded Activin A
ACE inhibitor
Antioxidant
Vasodilator
Cardio protective
Increased brain function
Reduced cholesterol
GLUT4 Expression



This is one of the most well studied seaweeds on earth. Millions of dollars has been spent looking at this stuff for all kinds of purposes. Its exceptional with regards to health benefits and safety. Its also exceptional with regards to its benefits to us as muscle gain and fat loss enthusiasts. Like Epicatechin EC is a strong follistatin booster and as such myostatin inhibitor. In addition to its ability to reduce myostatin it is also a very solid ACE inhibitor. Ace inhibitors are interesting to say the very least. Ace inhibitors increase insulin sensitivity and glucose uptake into muscles. Lower ACE equates to lower overall bodyfat levels, increased fat metabolism in the liver and the ability to process sugars much faster. In addition increased cell surface GLUT4 increases nutrient shuttling into muscle tissue. It has been suggested that ACE inhibitor-induced positive effects may also be mediated by direct action on the skeletal muscle. In particular, two recently published observational studies documented that among hypertensive subjects free of CHF, treatment with ACE inhibitors was associated with better performance and muscular outcomes and genetic studies also support the hypothesis that the ACE system may be involved in physical performance and skeletal muscle function. Effects on the skeletal muscle are probably mediated by mechanical, metabolic, anti-inflammatory, nutritional, neurological and angiogenetic actions. Individuals with the II genotype of the ACE gene have greater endurance and greater skeletal muscle trainability in some studies. Hypertensive patients taking ACE inhibitors have greater cross-sectional muscle mass and a slower decline in walking speed than those taking other antihypertensives in epidemiological studies. ACE inhibitors are also known to improve endothelial function, muscle glucose uptake, increase potassium levels and modulate other hormonal systems including IGF-1, all of which could contribute to improved skeletal muscle function. Finally, ACE inhibitors could of course be mediating a direct effect on skeletal muscle structure and function; they are known to have trophic effects on myocardial tissue. Finally ACE inhibitors help us with fat loss independent of food intake. This appears to be due to a high energy expenditure related to increased metabolism of fatty acids in the liver, with the additional effect of increased glucose tolerance.

EC is a strong vasodilator and helps restore and increase endothelial function. EC can regenerate the vascular endothelium, the cells critical to the inner lining of the blood vessels. They generate the chemical nitric oxide (NO), which keeps the arterial walls relaxed and dilated. After a six-week study of EC, flow mediated dilation and NO mediated dilation increased by 60% and 50%. In another study, coronary artery disease patients were given EC for six weeks. Blood flow controlled by NO increased 50-60%. These results confirm that EC can rejuvenate damaged endothelial cells to produce NO. This effect was further confirmed in a study on erectile dysfunction (see below).

Scientists studied 31 men with erectile dysfunction (ED) for over six months. They compared eight weeks of EC use to Viagra. They looked at orgasmic function (OF), intercourse satisfaction (IS), overall satisfaction (OS), and erectile function (EF). Over those eight weeks, ECE scored 87%, 74%, 62%, and 66%. Viagra scored 27%, 44%, 39%, and 66%. No side effects were reported with EC:


DGAT Inhibition
Diacylglycerol acetyl transferase (DGAT) is the enzyme involved in the final step of triglyceride synthesis. Triglycerides are circulating fat bodies that ultimately wind up in the fat cells, and are almost always elevated in diabetes. They also have emerged as a major risk factor in vascular disease.
It was found that EC compounds inhibited DGAT more than 50%. In genetically caused obese laboratory rats, EC reduced body fat and increased physical activity. In another study, EC caused leanness and fat-resistance in animals given a high fat diet.

ECE Beverage: 2-Week Clinical Trial
In a human study, 141 young adults were given a beverage containing ECE at 200 mg daily. In two weeks their average weight dropped nearly 2.5 pounds, muscle mass increased by nearly 2.5 pounds, and body fat dropped by 4 pounds, or 7.48%. EC stimulates the body to burn fat by increasing muscle mass.

Frankly I dont know of too many things that have the potential of Ecklonia cava. Great for building muscle and losing fat, Vasodilation and a host of health benefits round this ingredient out and make it in my opinion the star of the show and I believe an even stronger ingredient than epicatechin.




Flos carth
Increased Follistatin
Reduced myostatin
Reduded Activin A
antiinflammitory
antioxidant
Increased NO production


Flos Carthami extract was initially a target for me because of its ability to increase Follistatin (see Fig 1.). Increased Follistatin, decreased Myostatin and activin A lead to increased muscle building potential. Flos Carthami has a strong antioxidant effect and is highly anti inflammatory. more than one tester mentioned a reduction in overall muscular pain perception acutely post training and during the DOMS stage of recovery. Several studies indicate that FC improves endothelial function and NO production similar to EC and (-)-E extract.


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Quercetin/niacin co crystal

Vasodilator, Increased VO2 Max,
Absorption


Quercetin niacin co_crystals are a whole new ingredient. Everyone knows about quercetin and niacin but quercetin has very poor oral bioavailability and niacin causes severe flushing at decent doses. Bonding the molecules together increases the absorption of Quercetin many times over and prevents the Niacin flush. Quercetin has been mentioned for everything from endurance and an increase in VO2 Max to fat loss to its strong antioxidant effect, however, for our purpose we added it specifically for its ability to increase the absorption of our other ingredients. Specifically, epicatechin. Its as just an added bonus we get all the benefits of both quercetin and niacin which includes vasodilation and improved cholesterol levels making this a star ingredient we plan on adding in high amounts in our coming PRE WORKOUT product ;)

Absorption=
Both of these tested exceptionally well and have strong scientific evidence supporting their use to increase the absporption of epicatechin.
Octyl gallate
Citrus bioflavaniods


UPDATE- Naringenin is one of the major bioflavanoids in FD2
check out how it can benefit us for more than just absorption!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20558145

REFS:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20385110
http://www.fiercebiotechresearch.com/story/chance-discovery-links-ace-inhibitors-to-weight-loss/2008-04-29
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2008/04/25/0802690105.abstract
http://ageing.oxfordjournals.org/content/37/4/363.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19026021
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12398116
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16787247
 
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Great stuff man, interested for sure!
 
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Ecklonia Cava is IMHO better than epicatechin. Increases Follistatin yes.....but the other additional actions are fierce.
The ACE inhibition and GLUT4 activation etc etc etc AND myostatin inhibition......real anabolic potential.
This stuff shuttles glucose into the muscles like nothing I have ever see. I just feel fuller and stronger. Just wait....you guys will see.
 
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TGB is in the process of setting everything up. Pre sales will begin relatively soon.
 

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Well worth the wait based on studies.
Thanks for the hard work Brundel!
 
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Awesome, will have to order from the US to probably get faster.

Also any updates on new products e.g. Pre workout supp.
 
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TGB is in the process of setting everything up. Pre sales will begin relatively soon.
I talked to them about it today, they're very excited about the product as well! They're only 2 hour drive from my house.
 
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I talked to them about it today, they're very excited about the product as well! They're only 2 hour drive from my house.
Lucky! If I were u, I'd make that drive and buy from them personally!
 
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Flos Carthami follistatin testing-

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Just for reference..before you guys say why didnt I use...
Pheritima we did use in earlier versions but it didnt work well for some reason. Plus its a worm extract lol.
Semen P is exceptionally toxic. Consuming an extract of high enough purity to increase follistatin would be highly toxic to you.

None the less Flos C was exceptionally strong with regards to follistatin increase.
 
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Awesome, will have to order from the US to probably get faster.

Also any updates on new products e.g. Pre workout supp.
Currently Im just focused on getting this out to you guys.
Will update on new products once this cools down a bit.

but yes we have several new products on deck. Testing another stim for the pre currently.
 
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Subbed. No time to read it atm.
 
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Looks like a very well researched and high quality product! Well done, I will be purchasing this for sure! Also, random question, any known effects on thyroid function with these ingredients? Just curious.
 
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Amazing stuff
 
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I was taking Ecklonia Cava in 2009/2010.
It may also decrease high blood pressure and LDL
 
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Oh this'll be great for my PCT stack. So ready.
 
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subbed on this - glanced over it and looks very interesting, very interesting.

will the release be announced here or on another thread?
 
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I was taking Ecklonia Cava in 2009/2010.
It may also decrease high blood pressure and LDL
Yea the benefits of this stuff are extensive. I had to cut the writeup down by 50% all of which was cut from the ecklonia portion. Just because there is so much to tell about it. I literally scratched the surface with the writeup. Such an amazing seaweed.
 
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subbed on this - glanced over it and looks very interesting, very interesting.

will the release be announced here or on another thread?
We are ready to go brother. TGB is posting everything up on the site. Of course it will be PRE SALE only. Meaning your bottles wont ship to you for about 7 days. In this case though I suggest a pre order. Once people start using this stuff and posting and logging stocks gonna dwindle fast.
 
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Yea the benefits of this stuff are extensive. I had to cut the writeup down by 50% all of which was cut from the ecklonia portion. Just because there is so much to tell about it. I literally scratched the surface with the writeup. Such an amazing seaweed.
Reduced (LDL) cholesterol, reaction to reactive protein and cells. not sure what the dose will be (im sure we will find out soon) but absolutely right the benefits (if the dose is on par) are extensive. I doubt you will skimp on this.

cant wait to see this
 
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Reduced (LDL) cholesterol, reaction to reactive protein and cells. not sure what the dose will be (im sure we will find out soon) but absolutely right the benefits (if the dose is on par) are extensive. I doubt you will skimp on this.

cant wait to see this
Absolutely did not skimp. There is more of the EC than anything else ;)
you guys can see why.
Like I was saying before...I had to cut the EC part of the writeup in half just to keep it from being too long to keep peoples attention but frankly there is alot more to tell about this stuff. Most of the things I mentioned were just...like snippits. For example its ability to shuttle nutrients into muscle tissue is SUPER important. Post training GLUT4 increases uptake of nutrients into muscle tissue. EC keeps this turned on beyond the normal post training "anabolic window".
 

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Can't wait to see logs on this, it looks revolutionary for sure.
 
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Can't wait to give this a shot!
 

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I remember year(s) ago when I gave some random unknown guy/company (brundel/BLR) my money for Follidrone and was very impressed with it. Here's to another time I'm doing it (although neither are unknown anymore). Waiting for the presale patiently!
 
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I remember year(s) ago when I gave some random unknown guy/company (brundel/BLR) my money for Follidrone and was very impressed with it. Here's to another time I'm doing it (although neither are unknown anymore). Waiting for the presale patiently!
Thanks brother. I appreciate your support.
You wont be disappointed.
 
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Can one can assume it'll be 50+ for normal retail?
Yes sir.
This stuff is costing more than the OG foll by a strong margin. Like back when epicatechin was 2500$ a kg because only we were using it.
Now Epi 99% is in the 750-850 range but of course we now have 5 other ingredient. The Quercetin niacin co crystals are not a common ingredient.
You cant get it anywhere except for custom synthesis.
Ultimately..yes lol. 50$ is a reasonable expectation for normal retail price.
 
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Yea the benefits of this stuff are extensive. I had to cut the writeup down by 50% all of which was cut from the ecklonia portion. Just because there is so much to tell about it. I literally scratched the surface with the writeup. Such an amazing seaweed.
This is also something to mention:

Enhancement of Human Hair Growth Using Ecklonia cava Polyphenols.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26848214/?i=3&from=Ecklonia Cava

The anti-aging properties of a human placental hydrolysate combined with dieckol isolated from Ecklonia cava.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26438076/?i=11&from=Ecklonia Cava

Efficacy and safety of a dieckol-rich extract (AG-dieckol) of brown algae, Ecklonia cava, in pre-diabetic individuals: a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25608849/?i=10&from=Ecklonia Cava human
 

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Yes sir.
This stuff is costing more than the OG foll by a strong margin. Like back when epicatechin was 2500$ a kg because only we were using it.
Now Epi 99% is in the 750-850 range but of course we now have 5 other ingredient. The Quercetin niacin co crystals are not a common ingredient.
You cant get it anywhere except for custom synthesis.
Ultimately..yes lol. 50$ is a reasonable expectation for normal retail price.
No problem. Was just wondering. I'll spend as much as it takes if the product is effective. Epicatechin allowed me to have sick density for my workouts which made my workouts very productive and time efficient. I love the ingredient, so I can hopefully look forward to the other ingredients you've got in Folli2.0
 
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Brundel is this hitting Lockout too?
I can facilitate if the order isn't in yet.

Will test this, EC looks like a new fun addition.

This is where I remind you that once upon a time I named Rebirth in a promo and was never hooked up...

Jk I can pay ;)
 
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Quick question here, brundel i was under the impression that we don't want anti I around our workouts. With flos catharmi being such a strong Cox 2 inhibitor, wouldn't it work against what we want from a workout?
 

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Everytime I see EC in this thread I immediately think of Ephedrine+Caffeine....
 

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Quick question here, i was under the impression that we don't want anti I around our workouts. With flos catharmi being such a strong Cox 2 inhibitor, wouldn't it work against what we want from a workout?
I was curious about that too tbh I'm sure there's a good explanation for it jw what that is
 

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Everytime I see EC in this thread I immediately think of Ephedrine+Caffeine....
Lmao same. Now we have two awesome ec's at our disposal. U got me all antsy now. Been off since Jan. Starting 6 month on in May ... Counting the days to greatness
 
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Brundel is this hitting Lockout too?
I can facilitate if the order isn't in yet.

Will test this, EC looks like a new fun addition.

This is where I remind you that once upon a time I named Rebirth in a promo and was never hooked up...

Jk I can pay ;)
Lol I havnt had time to even talk to Lockout about it but Im certain they will want to pick some up.
So for sure mention it to them so as soon as the exclusive pre sale is over they have an order in for stock.
 

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