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    Tongkat/Boron supplement


    This was made mention of in another topic. Care to elaborate BLR reps? What will it be aimed to do? Tongkat for the most part has mixed reviews and been around along time, but effectiveness is questionable. Interested.

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    Boost test if I'm not mistaken.
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    I belive the tongkat is for mood/energy and boron is for free test. Free test is primarily what you should be concerned about as it is the unbound test your body can use. I belive ergolog had some good boron studies showing 11mg in the morning boost free test quite high. Although studies I've seen conflict on weather it also increase estrogen as well. Seems promising.
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    Agree - would be nice to have a thread for upcoming tongkat/boron product so we don't litter Follidrone thread.
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    Tongkat is for free test, as well as boron. Their Tongkat is the strongest out there by seat of pants, but I am unaware of the mg/concentration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Tongkat is for free test, as well as boron. Their Tongkat is the strongest out there by seat of pants, but I am unaware of the mg/concentration.
    Will you take BLR tongkat/boron product 5 days on/2 days off or every day for 4 weeks?
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    5 on 2 off. I will run it like I normally run tongkat.
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    Can't wait for the tongkat boron KATRON® lol tp Hit the UK. JW all the way.
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    Sorry I generally just reply to subbed threads.

    Tongkat is a great plant when its extracted properly. Energy, mood, libido, erection, test boosting and more.
    Boron is being use primarily to reduce SHBG. As this goes down Free test and other sex hormones go up.

    This leads to a more anabolic state. You feel better, stronger and potential for muscle growth is greater.

    Its good stuff solo but combined with certain things it will be incredible.

    Good On cycle
    Off or PCT.

    Ill get a FAQ up when I come up with a name.....in fact lets do that now. Im gonna start a name thread. Ill give a bottle to whoever comes up with a name so I can start making labels
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm an SNS rep and I want to try this!. Tried LJ100 when Nutraplanet had it in bulk. Was pretty expensive but was amazing for libido, even energy. Didn't take it long enough to see how it would have worked out for strength gains though. For libido though, nothing beats it.
    We use an extract nobody else has. Its very strong. We gave it to 6 AM members to test out and they all agreed it was as good or better than anything they had tried before. With the Boron its very good.
    We are working on getting it out asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I want to get some but probably won't be able to afford it till sometime next month. Wish I had the supplement budget of some of these guys on here but I've got bills. So this month I got some protein. Don't necessarily need to supplement with protein but when its a choice between getting a supplement that I would consider an "extra" or ergogenic and a basic supplement, have to go with the basic supplement. When I consider a purchase of supplements basic supplements are considered first in line and then if I have enough in my budget to cover an ergogenic or "extra" I get what I can afford.
    It shouldnt be super expensive. Keep an eye on our FB page as there may be an intro sale and potentially some log opps.
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    How about-
    "AllTest"
    "Test boron"
    "T boron"
    "Super test"
    "Test vast"
    "Vast test"
    "Vast boron"
    "Vast tongboron"
    "Pure tongboron"

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    KATRON
    TEST KAT
    BORON BOOST
    TON-RON
    T-RON
    Super TB
    Xtreme TB lol
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    I actually like Boron Boost
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    How about Ultimate Weekend Sex Stack. ha
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    Is Viron expected to be shipped to TGB today and start selling this week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Is Viron expected to be shipped to TGB today and start selling this week?
    No the labels are not here yet. I expected them today though. So maybe tomorrow.
    Keep an eye on TGB's FB page and ours. We will announce when I have the labels and TGB will start pre selling.
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    It's on TGB but I am unable to use my card to pay for it due to their website.

    I am one sad panda.

    Emailed them with no response
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    sucks man. I had no problem pre-ordering a few bottles... I used paypal though
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    Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post
    It's on TGB but I am unable to use my card to pay for it due to their website. I am one sad panda. Emailed them with no response
    Keep trying man mine went through
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Keep trying man mine went through
    TGB have great customer service.
    Unfortunately the website is still not allowing me too
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    Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post
    TGB have great customer service.
    Unfortunately the website is still not allowing me too
    Why you don't use Paypal and then use credit card during paying with Paypal?

    Or have a friend send you money to your Paypal account?

    Yeah their customer service is amazing - owner replied to me that Viron will be shipped tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Why you don't use Paypal and then use credit card during paying with Paypal?

    Or have a friend send you money to your Paypal account?

    Yeah their customer service is amazing - owner replied to me that Viron will be shipped tomorrow.
    I can't. PayPal has banned me for life for fraudulent activity done by someone else on my account which had my card linked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post

    I can't. PayPal has banned me for life for fraudulent activity done by someone else on my account which had my card linked up.
    Sorry bud. If it persists ill see what i can do when i get home. On an island currently.
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    Honestly some of the best service around though.
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    No worries thanks brundel

    They do! I am extremely impressed
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    when is the UK getting a taste of VIRON @brundel
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyweight83 View Post
    when is the UK getting a taste of VIRON @brundel
    IM going to work on it this week. Shipping to them.
    This time its our other listed UK retailer. Ill be shipping this week sometime.
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    Big shout out to TGB supplements

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    So I have read that viron requires or is recommended to have a anti-estrogen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post
    So I have read that viron requires or is recommended to have a anti-estrogen?
    When testosterone rises so does estrogen.
    So...if test is high estro will also be elevated. If an AI is used NOT a serm but an AI...test levels will rise even further and estro will drop.

    Not required by any means but it will certainly make the product more stout.
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    Tongkat/Boron supplement


    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    When testosterone rises so does estrogen.
    So...if test is high estro will also be elevated. If an AI is used NOT a serm but an AI...test levels will rise even further and estro will drop.

    Not required by any means but it will certainly make the product more stout.
    There are hardly any AI apart from formeron which actually works though (which I can't use)
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    You cant use Formeron? Uk distributors have it.
    What about aromasin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    You cant use Formeron? Uk distributors have it.
    What about aromasin.
    Live in Australia

    An AI like that give me horrible side effects, like sore joints, libido, hair loss etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post
    Live in Australia

    An AI like that give me horrible side effects, like sore joints, libido, hair loss etc etc
    You must be super sensitive or extremely low aromatase naturally.
    Sometimes the first time you use an AI you experience joint issues. I did. Now I dont even notice em except a slight libido burst the day I take it.
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    Wow - package of Viron & Formeron from TGBsupplements that I ordered 4 business days ago - arrived to my EU country.

    No custom stop so I got it with 0 tax now this is so awesome cause really who wants to pay extra 20-25% VAT haha.

    Ahh now compared to ordering from UK where they slam 20% tax and extra 30% distributor fee then it's like 50% cheaper for me to order from US than UK (if living inside EU).

    But what impressed me the most was package at my door from US to EU in 4 business days - awesome job TGBsupplements!!!

    Looks like tomorrow when I take 1st cap of Viron I'll be the 1st in Europe to test it.

    Now just to think on weekly dosing regimen - maybe 3 days on/1 day off/2 days on/1 day off which is similar as 5 days on/2 days off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    You must be super sensitive or extremely low aromatase naturally.
    Sometimes the first time you use an AI you experience joint issues. I did. Now I dont even notice em except a slight libido burst the day I take it.
    I am super sensitive to anything that lowers estrogen but also pretty sensitive to strong androgens. I have used my fair share of AI in the past including formeron. While I absolutely loved the stuff, I got severe aggression, extremely sore joints and other side effects. Even dropped it to one pump

    Any natty AI you suggest I take a long side with it?
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    Any idea on what the ramp up period is on Viron. Currently I'm running BLR Follidrone for the past 5 wees, Formeron at 3 pumps/day for the last 60 days and 1 cap of viron added 3 days ago. I really like what Follidrone and Formeron do but haven't really noticed an effect from Viron except for maybe a bigger appetite? I figure it would take a week or so to really start to shine, at least thats what I understand is the usual from Tongkat products.
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    Tongkat is funny that way. Some people can feel it in a few days and others it can take a couple weeks. I happen to be quite sensitive to it and notice it in a day or two. The nice thing is that once you start cycling it, you don't need that build up again. I found that a 4 on 3 off is best for me.
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