This was made mention of in another topic. Care to elaborate BLR reps? What will it be aimed to do? Tongkat for the most part has mixed reviews and been around along time, but effectiveness is questionable. Interested.
Will you take BLR tongkat/boron product 5 days on/2 days off or every day for 4 weeks?Tongkat is for free test, as well as boron. Their Tongkat is the strongest out there by seat of pants, but I am unaware of the mg/concentration.
We use an extract nobody else has. Its very strong. We gave it to 6 AM members to test out and they all agreed it was as good or better than anything they had tried before. With the Boron its very good.I'm an SNS rep and I want to try this!. Tried LJ100 when Nutraplanet had it in bulk. Was pretty expensive but was amazing for libido, even energy. Didn't take it long enough to see how it would have worked out for strength gains though. For libido though, nothing beats it.
It shouldnt be super expensive. Keep an eye on our FB page as there may be an intro sale and potentially some log opps.I want to get some but probably won't be able to afford it till sometime next month. Wish I had the supplement budget of some of these guys on here but I've got bills. So this month I got some protein. Don't necessarily need to supplement with protein but when its a choice between getting a supplement that I would consider an "extra" or ergogenic and a basic supplement, have to go with the basic supplement. When I consider a purchase of supplements basic supplements are considered first in line and then if I have enough in my budget to cover an ergogenic or "extra" I get what I can afford.
No the labels are not here yet. I expected them today though. So maybe tomorrow.Is Viron expected to be shipped to TGB today and start selling this week?
Keep trying man mine went throughIt's on TGB but I am unable to use my card to pay for it due to their website. I am one sad panda. Emailed them with no response
TGB have great customer service.Keep trying man mine went through
Why you don't use Paypal and then use credit card during paying with Paypal?TGB have great customer service.
Unfortunately the website is still not allowing me too
I can't. PayPal has banned me for life for fraudulent activity done by someone else on my account which had my card linked up.Why you don't use Paypal and then use credit card during paying with Paypal?
Or have a friend send you money to your Paypal account?
Yeah their customer service is amazing - owner replied to me that Viron will be shipped tomorrow.
Sorry bud. If it persists ill see what i can do when i get home. On an island currently.I can't. PayPal has banned me for life for fraudulent activity done by someone else on my account which had my card linked up.
IM going to work on it this week. Shipping to them.when is the UK getting a taste of VIRON @brundel
When testosterone rises so does estrogen.So I have read that viron requires or is recommended to have a anti-estrogen?
There are hardly any AI apart from formeron which actually works though (which I can't use)When testosterone rises so does estrogen.
So...if test is high estro will also be elevated. If an AI is used NOT a serm but an AI...test levels will rise even further and estro will drop.
Not required by any means but it will certainly make the product more stout.
Live in AustraliaYou cant use Formeron? Uk distributors have it.
What about aromasin.
You must be super sensitive or extremely low aromatase naturally.Live in Australia
An AI like that give me horrible side effects, like sore joints, libido, hair loss etc etc
I am super sensitive to anything that lowers estrogen but also pretty sensitive to strong androgens. I have used my fair share of AI in the past including formeron. While I absolutely loved the stuff, I got severe aggression, extremely sore joints and other side effects. Even dropped it to one pumpYou must be super sensitive or extremely low aromatase naturally.
Sometimes the first time you use an AI you experience joint issues. I did. Now I dont even notice em except a slight libido burst the day I take it.
Yah....its insane how fast TGB ships. He actually pays the extra to ship faster in alot of cases.Wow - package of Viron & Formeron from TGBsupplements that I ordered 4 business days ago - arrived to my EU country.
No custom stop so I got it with 0 tax now this is so awesome cause really who wants to pay extra 20-25% VAT haha.
Ahh now compared to ordering from UK where they slam 20% tax and extra 30% distributor fee then it's like 50% cheaper for me to order from US than UK (if living inside EU).
But what impressed me the most was package at my door from US to EU in 4 business days - awesome job TGBsupplements!!!
Looks like tomorrow when I take 1st cap of Viron I'll be the 1st in Europe to test it.
Now just to think on weekly dosing regimen - maybe 3 days on/1 day off/2 days on/1 day off which is similar as 5 days on/2 days off.
Maybe resveratrol.I am super sensitive to anything that lowers estrogen but also pretty sensitive to strong androgens. I have used my fair share of AI in the past including formeron. While I absolutely loved the stuff, I got severe aggression, extremely sore joints and other side effects. Even dropped it to one pump
Any natty AI you suggest I take a long side with it?
ALot of times you wont "feel" a test booster.Any idea on what the ramp up period is on Viron. Currently I'm running BLR Follidrone for the past 5 wees, Formeron at 3 pumps/day for the last 60 days and 1 cap of viron added 3 days ago. I really like what Follidrone and Formeron do but haven't really noticed an effect from Viron except for maybe a bigger appetite? I figure it would take a week or so to really start to shine, at least thats what I understand is the usual from Tongkat products.
I felt Viron on day 2.ALot of times you wont "feel" a test booster. I take boron everyday and I never have felt it working. I know it works because I ran extensive bloodwork to validate it. No boron free test 154. With boron 608. 0 change in how I felt. Like nothing. But lifts went up and I look better on it. I can see when I stop in my physique. It does take a while to start making changes though. Now the tongkat...Im also sensitive to it I guess because I feel even 75mg. 250 in those caps.
Any particular brand?Maybe resveratrol.
I take Reserveage Organics in 250mg.Any particular brand?
Ive always just purchased bulk from bulk powder suppliers. I make it into a transdermal personally but thats me.Any particular brand?
1st question) Don't know if I'm just not seeing it but I can't seem to find expiration date on Viron bottle.Yah....its insane how fast TGB ships. He actually pays the extra to ship faster in alot of cases.
One of the best customer services and shipping around. This is their edge.
I dont know about the dosing to be honest. 3/1 2/1 seems ok though. Let us know how you feel.
This tongkat is stout. You get a noticeable mood increase from it.
By your logic, 95% of the supplement industry does not care about their customer base, simply because of gel caps.1st question) Don't know if I'm just not seeing it but I can't seem to find expiration date on Viron bottle.
All I could find was Lot 133 and I looked 3x the label, cap and bottom of bottle.
If you can find by lot number - can you tell me what's the expiration date or if you simply forgot to write expiration date on bottles?
Can others find expiration date on your bottles of Viron?
2nd question) I see capsules use color FD&C Blue 1 that is known to cause harmful effect in body - is it OK to open capsule and just put content in mouth than wash it down with water or do you have to take without opening capsule?
I kind of a wished you'd go with vegetable capsules since this truly tells you that company cares so much by not choosing industry standard of using gelatin capsules with harmful dyes in it.
I'd highly suggest a boron supplement and 150mg dhea to that protocol. I've noticed not only function but drive increases tremendously on that mixLive in Australia An AI like that give me horrible side effects, like sore joints, libido, hair loss etc etc
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