FORMERON FAQ

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  1. Formeron is NOT suppressive at recommended doses. So long as your not using 300+mg Daily I would not be worried at all and not taper.
    Tapering is not really necessary with anything except maybe Thyroid meds.
    Hit it hard and full strength. Stop when your done. For PCT its lowering estro and elevating test....why taper.
    Same with on cycle.....
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  2. Do you consider formestane a ph?
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  3. Primarily, Formestane is an aromatase inhibitor.
    Formestane was used for years as a medication (Lentaron). Its primary use, an AI.
    It was never used as an anabolic compound or considered for use as such.

    Now, as a happy side effect it happens to convert to 4-hydroxytestosterone so in fact it IS a prohormone, however, again this is not its primary function.

    THe good news is its great as an AI and it is also pretty good standalone.

    I did a test suspension, Formeron cycle a few years ago that was amazing.
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  4. Interesting, do you use SERMs for PCT?

  5. Anyone seeing muscle gains on formeron. Wondering if to sell and go Havoc instead or dry out and do havoc next year :/
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  6. Is it a good idea to throw in dieselbolan v2.0 to my test e cycle?

    As Dieselbolan v2.0 is known to have side effects such as prolactin induced gyno, would just Formeron be enough to counter that or do i need prolactrone(what dosage)?
    If yes how many pumps a day would i need?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Anyone seeing muscle gains on formeron. Wondering if to sell and go Havoc instead or dry out and do havoc next year :/
    In my experience, formestane has to be dosed high (800 mg+) before any significant muscle gains can be seen. This makes it very expensive. Thats why it is not more popular as an muscle growth enhancer. It's hardening effects can be seen at lower dosages (400 mg) for most.

  8. I have not personally run a PCT in 5-6 years. Im on HRT.
    I do recommend a SERM for PCT in conjunction with an AI.

    A SERM prevents circulating estrogen from binding to specific receptors but it does nothing really to lower estrogen and IS in fact an estrogen itself...hence the binding to the receptor. It just has no effect at the binding site.

    You also need an AI to lower estrogen. Here is why.
    In males estrogen is made primarily via enzymatic conversion.... testosterone-Aromatase= estrogen
    So when estrogen is super high the brain shuts off test production because in simple terms it thinks test must be high if estro is high, and , or,
    it senses super high estro and to stop it from going higher it stops test production. Either way high estro = low test in a natural setting.

    In contrast....low estro will = elevating test for the converse reason. The brain...sensing low estro makes more test in order to make more estro.

    So for PCT one of your primary goals is to get estro to the low end of range. This way it helps kickstart the balls but also helps the process continue when the drugs stop.

    If you stop PCT and estro is still high test will drop again as explained above.
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  9. HRT? (Hormone replacement therapy?) You don't take Ph's or nothin?

  10. Hormone replacement therapy yes.

    I see very little point in PH use when you can use an actual steroid that needs no conversion.
    Why take something that turns unto a drug at a very small % when you can take the actual drug at 100% potency?

    I used steroids for decades but a recent cardiac arrest prevents me from further use.
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  11. I just don't know much about HRT, I have had some heart issues (serious as well) too. If your 5'9 and 235lbs and 5%Bf or less **** keep doing what your doing of course. How does HRT work? you get it from the doc?

  12. Man....5% is pretty lean brother. I have been under 7% and its bone dry and veined out.
    Im 5'9 and 235 on 3000mg of steroids lol.
    Im about 210 now and maybe 10%. Still looking pretty thick.

    Hrt works great. Scripted from my dr. 22$ for 10ml with insurance.
    I just do about 120mg every 3 days. I feel fantastic and strength is very good.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Anyone seeing muscle gains on formeron. Wondering if to sell and go Havoc instead or dry out and do havoc next year :/
    You can gain muscle using Formeron. Firstly Formeron elevates testosterone levels which in itself will increase protein synthesis.
    Secondly its a mild prohormone and the steroid it converts to is also anabolic.

    Anabolism will be dose dependent.

    800mg is a **** ton of formestane. I have had good results personally with 400mg and My cycles are commonly in the 3000mg range total gear load. Like anything, if you add it to a stack of compounds youll have better results.

    For example:
    My last cycle was
    2000 test cyp
    1000 EQ
    450 tren ace
    300mcg GHRP-6

    The above mentioned drugs will all work well alone but its NOTHING compared to what happens when you use em together.

    So, Say you have Formeron, Havoc, Sd, some test etc. Combining these will result in a vastly greater result than just running one of them.

    Im not sure whats in Havoc. If its not epistane or another AI then use it with the Formeron.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by steelwrecker7 View Post
    Is it a good idea to throw in dieselbolan v2.0 to my test e cycle?

    As Dieselbolan v2.0 is known to have side effects such as prolactin induced gyno, would just Formeron be enough to counter that or do i need prolactrone(what dosage)?
    If yes how many pumps a day would i need?
    Not 100% certain whats in that product. Superdrol?
    If it causes prolactin issues yes also use Prolactrone. Start with 2 caps daily and adjust as needed up or down.
    Also use the Formeron though.....Even if its superdrol which is methylated masteron (should NOT aromatize) My experience is that there is some water retention associated with its use. AND since Superdrol will lower your natty test levels and Formeron elevates them it only makes sense to include the Form.
    Testosterone is very anabolic. Taking something that lowers it and not replacing the test somehow is a very poor idea.
    If you take a steroid only to lose another its not going to be a very successful endeavor.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Im thinking this week. We are just waiting on a new batch of formestane so we have enough supply.
    I imagine we will sell alot....probably sell out in a few days.

    I will post here, and iron mag, and facebook.
    Update? Definitely don't want to miss out as I'm sure if you guys have a solid deal this will get snatched up pretty quick!
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Update? Definitely don't want to miss out as I'm sure if you guys have a solid deal this will get snatched up pretty quick!
    We keep pushing it back only because we need to make sure there is enough product available and ....well ...it sells out faster than we can make it already. So its taking some time to build up a stock. Im thinking next week 90% certain.
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  17. There will likely be:
    single item sales
    Black Lion product stacks with significant discounts
    Combo stacks with other products....for example, something that aromatizes with Formeron, or a 19 nor with Prolactrone.
    Since this is the only time our products will have ever been discounted it should be pretty good. We do expect supply to go quickly.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    There will likely be:
    single item sales
    Black Lion product stacks with significant discounts
    Combo stacks with other products....for example, something that aromatizes with Formeron, or a 19 nor with Prolactrone.
    Since this is the only time our products will have ever been discounted it should be pretty good. We do expect supply to go quickly.
    These the NP sales your talking about?
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    PM me with any questions!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    We keep pushing it back only because we need to make sure there is enough product available and ....well ...it sells out faster than we can make it already. So its taking some time to build up a stock. Im thinking next week 90% certain.
    Trust me I understand full well about building stock. Our products are consistently sold out it's tough!
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  20. Can't wait for the sale!!!

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    These the NP sales your talking about?
    No.
    At some point we will be having a sale through NP.
    Probably soon after this one.
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  22. Here's a write-up on Formestane. I found it on another web site.

    Formestane is a steroidal aromatase inhibitor, known as a suicidal inhibitor because it permanently binds to the aromatase enzyme.
    Formestane was originally used as an injectable for breast cancer patients, but due to its possible androgenic effects it has largely been replaced by non-steroidial AIs in the medical community. Most of its use is now is limited to the bodybuilding community since it is available as a legal dietary supplement for reducing estrogen and increasing testosterone production.
    Although formestane can effectively reduce estrogen through oral consumption, its low oral bioavailability has lead to the development of several transdermal based products (which appear to offer higher efficacy at a lower dose).
    Relative to 6-oxo and ATD, Formestane is a more potent aromatase inhibitor, which appears to effectively reduce natural estrogen levels by as much as 50% within several days (while higher doses may further suppress estrogen). Because of formestanes potent ability at reducing estrogen it will tend to reduce HDL levels, while increasing LDL levels, thus harming the cholesterol profile. For this reason, it is recommended to limit cycles of formestane to 8 weeks max.
    Because formestane also has a strong affinity for the 5a-reductase enzyme it will reduce DHT levels in the body by effectively competing with testosterone for the 5a-reductase.
    Formestane converts to the active androgen 4-hydroxytestosterone which has about half the anabolic potency, and about 25% of the androgenic potency as testosterone. This would suggest that fairly high doses of formestane (800-1000mg/day) could lead to some level of anabolic enhancement (although the amount required for this would surely lead to undesirably low estrogen levels).
    Formestane is successfully used as a standalone during re-composition cycles to help reduce “bloat” and fat storage. It can also be used as an anti-estrogen to counter aromatization of aromatizing steroids.

  23. are the negative effects on blood lipids severe?

  24. I have been using formestane for 5-6 years as my only ai and


    My ldl is 51
    HDL is 39

    So....I can say for me at least is certainly does not negatively effect cholesterol.

    Blood testing was done when I was also on HRT.
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  25. Sup brundel..
    I have a bottle of formerom I was intending on using for pct. I'm three Weeks in on a non aromatizing compound, however i'm experiencing significant bloat. Wondering if starting forma now would help the cause and also if it would be as efficient in pct having been using it on cycle?
    Cultivating Mass.
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