PROLACTRONE

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  1. Awesome brother. It is elevating dopamine quite a bit so its similar to a nootropic.
    Good sleep, increased HGH, low prolactin, good mood.....
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  2. Have you ever heard of people experiencing insomnia or depression whilst using l-dopa and egcg? Last time I used a mucuna pruriens product I definitely experienced those side effects, but perhaps that is the result of not concurrently utilizing a DDCI. Thoughts?
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  3. For most people it does the opposite, however, if you have a pre existing chemical imbalance it may do this.
    Ldopa becomes dopamine and ldopa also has been show to reduce serotonin over time so....super long term use is discouraged.
    Many anti depressants work to elevate serotonin in some way so reducing it could potentially make you a little blue.

    For this reason I recommend using it for no longer than 8-12 weeks then a month min break.

    You can also take supps that increase serotonin like 5htp although Im not sure how effective this is.
    I take tramadol and it does the trick but its a med and potentially addictive.
    You may also want to talk to your dr about low dose SSRI treatment.
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  4. These were my thoughts. I was hoping you were gonna say something else.

    Well, I've never tried 5htp with egcg before. I bet it packs a little more punch.

  5. I just ordered some prolactrone and I have a question. My current cycle support supp has a good amount of B6 in it. Will this negate the effects of the prolactrone? Also should I be taking them at different times?
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  6. Discontinue the B6 during the time your taking the Prolactrone.

    Even 10mg b6 can reduce the effectiveness of Ldopa. More than that can prevent its action altogether.
    THis includes p5p even at 5mg.
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  7. Damn lol. Can't really go without the cycle support stuff though

  8. Can you tell me:

    What drugs your taking for this cycle including dose and duration.
    Also tell me any other supps or drugs you are taking. This means all cycle support, ai meds even caffeine. Everything.
    Even prescription meds.
    Then tell me which cycle support supp your taking so I can look at the ingredients.
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  9. Currently running:
    LG ph-17
    LG ph-19
    Finaflex 550 XD black
    Anateus Labs Mechabol.

    As for cycle support its Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Support.
    To be honest I was just having slight sensitivity on my left nipple. Did some thinking and I'm guess its a combo of the 19nor conversion of the 550xd with the ph-19 (which is a progestin I believe). Compound the fact that I take prescription antacid, lanzoprazole. I assume the combo did me in since the Mecha has no affinity for the progestin receptor and the other phs are super mild.

    My prolactrone hasn't arrived in the mail yet but I stopped the ph-19 and the 550xd and have had no further issues. All is well now to be honest. I am planning on just keeping it that way and perhaps using the prolactrone after pct for the mood and hgh benefits with perhaps a test booster to keep me humming along. .

    I've used gaspari anatropin in the past which has velvet bean extract and noticed a significant improvement in mood. So I'm gonna assume the high quality ldopa from your product should work nicely.

  10. Brundel,

    Do you see any problems with taking Man Sports RemPM while on Prolactrone? I took some time to research each ingredient and I don't think there should be any issues. There is no B6 or P5P in it. I checked the drug interaction page you provide the link to and I did not see any of REM PM's ingredients on there so I'm thinking I'm good to go but thought I'd get your opinion. Thanks.

  11. and one more question.......
    I will be starting Alphamine and Vanillean in the next week as I'm looking to shed a little fat for my Jiu jitsu competitions which are just around the corner. Both Alphamine and Vanillean are to be taken on an empty stomach. My thought was I will take my Prolactrone (2 capsules) first thing in the morning, wait half an hour, take Alphamine, wait half an hour, and then have breakfast. Will there be any issues with taking Alphamine right after taking Prolactrone. In the evening, around 8pm, I will take my third Prolactrone (1 capsule), wait half an hour and take my Vanillean and then go to bed. This look alright? Thanks again for all your hard work and time answering questions like this. Cheers.

  12. Looks like they would be fine to take together.

    You would be surprised at how many supps out there contradict each other.
    Be an advocate for yourself and make sure you always research every ingredient in every supp you take.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by jackswift View Post
    and one more question.......
    I will be starting Alphamine and Vanillean in the next week as I'm looking to shed a little fat for my Jiu jitsu competitions which are just around the corner. Both Alphamine and Vanillean are to be taken on an empty stomach. My thought was I will take my Prolactrone (2 capsules) first thing in the morning, wait half an hour, take Alphamine, wait half an hour, and then have breakfast. Will there be any issues with taking Alphamine right after taking Prolactrone. In the evening, around 8pm, I will take my third Prolactrone (1 capsule), wait half an hour and take my Vanillean and then go to bed. This look alright? Thanks again for all your hard work and time answering questions like this. Cheers.
    I dont know whats in alphamine. So long as there is no Ldopa or B6/p5p in it your fine.
    I dont recommend taking Prolactrone right before bed but its up to you.
    Prolactrone significantly increases HGH levels. You get an HGH Pulse naturally about every 3-3.5 hours and generally the largest is during the night when your sleeping. SO instead of taking it when levels would normally be high I recommend taking it when levels would normally be lower.
    I take my last dose at about 6pm and sleep at about 12.

    Either way its really up to you.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I plan on doing a 12 week stack of Usp Labs Prime and Prolactrone. Those should be ok together, correct?.
    Usp labs prime is just water chestnuts. .......Id save my money. There is no viable date to suggests this is gonna do anything for you.
    I believe water chestnuts are high in B6 so it might work against you with the prolactrone.
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  15. brundel do you think a solo run of prolactrone could do something for body composition? if you think so how would such a solo cycle layout look like?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Usp labs prime is just water chestnuts. .......Id save my money. There is no viable date to suggests this is gonna do anything for you.
    I believe water chestnuts are high in B6 so it might work against you with the prolactrone.

    its crazy- i used prime with testopro and dermacrine and it worked out pretty well- afterwards i found out it was pretty much water chestnuts and was like wtf?? btw, love your posts..honest and intersting stuff.

    as an aside, i wish this stuff was around when i used DAA- stuff shut me down pretty good.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by antknee02 View Post

    its crazy- i used prime with testopro and dermacrine and it worked out pretty well- afterwards i found out it was pretty much water chestnuts and was like wtf?? btw, love your posts..honest and intersting stuff.

    as an aside, i wish this stuff was around when i used DAA- stuff shut me down pretty good.
    Daa shut you down??

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    brundel do you think a solo run of prolactrone could do something for body composition? if you think so how would such a solo cycle layout look like?
    Yes I think it would be beneficial.
    Understand that this would not illicit results comparable to running a cycle of anadrol or dianabol.
    You would see results consistent with 5+iu injected growth hormone daily.
    This is if you used 3-4 caps per day.

    It best if run for 2+ months.
    I notice:
    Improved sleep
    better recovery
    Improved mood
    Improved libido
    Fat loss
    mild re composition - less fat -more muscle.

    This is very similar to my experience with injected HGH except for the mood and libido.
    THere are some pretty great logs on other forums where guys ran Prolactrone and high dose Formeron and the results were awesome.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by antknee02 View Post
    its crazy- i used prime with testopro and dermacrine and it worked out pretty well- afterwards i found out it was pretty much water chestnuts and was like wtf?? btw, love your posts..honest and intersting stuff.

    as an aside, i wish this stuff was around when i used DAA- stuff shut me down pretty good.
    Dermacrine also has 7,8 benzoflavone in it which was shown in several studies to cause liver cancer.
    Scary ****.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    Daa shut you down??

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    yeah, pretty much... i wish it werent true- daa seems to raise my prolactin levels pretty good. iim also over 40 so maybe that had something to do with it too..for a while i thought i was the only one, but you can find a few cases on the board if you look..

    brundle- 7,8 issues...i had read about that only after derma was gone..i would assume it would take a prolonged exposure? everything good, it seems, can bite you in the ass with side effects...anyway, your posts here and on other forums have me pretty interested in your products..
    im trying to put together a decent semi natty run leading up to summer,

  21. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Yes I think it would be beneficial.
    Understand that this would not illicit results comparable to running a cycle of anadrol or dianabol.
    You would see results consistent with 5+iu injected growth hormone daily.
    This is if you used 3-4 caps per day.

    It best if run for 2+ months.
    I notice:
    Improved sleep
    better recovery
    Improved mood
    Improved libido
    Fat loss
    mild re composition - less fat -more muscle.

    This is very similar to my experience with injected HGH except for the mood and libido.
    THere are some pretty great logs on other forums where guys ran Prolactrone and high dose Formeron and the results were awesome.
    sounds good and would of course be cheaper than running 5iUs of HGH per day. You think Mucuna p. extract 98% that is sold as bulk powder has no effect on HGH secretion? Isn prolactrone almost the same? At least its L-dopa based

  22. It needs to cross the blood brain barrier

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  23. I loved the product and have two bottles lined up to take with my X-trenavar, epi, and stano cycle.

    I plan on running 2 caps 1/2 hour prior to lifting and 1 cap before bed.

  24. This looks like something I should probably be taking. I have very strong indicators that my prolactin levels are high. No direct tests, but through quite a few symptoms which can be traced to prolactin levels being elevated.

    I have psoriasis and also impaired thyroid function. My TSH to free T3 levels were 3.64, which is heading towards hypo. People with psoriasis have clinically been found to have greatly elevated prolactin levels, which makes sense since lowered thyroid production increases prolactin production. I have also had gynecomastia since I was about 7 or 8 years old, which makes sense since prolactin in men lowers testosterone, which affects the testosterone/estrogen ratio as well. I am fairly estrogenic on top of this, as I have a very hard time getting "ripped" even though I do basically everything right. I eat right, train right, sleep right, supplement right, time everything right. I read 4 or 5 studies a day to stay up on new developments, research and findings. I eat, breathe and sleep this 24 hours a day. I dream everyday of looking like one of these guys on the fitness magazine covers. Don't get me wrong, I am in pretty good shape...I'm 38 with about 11-12% bodyfat. People tell me all the time how good I look, but in my mind, I always am asking "Look good compared to who?" To the guys my age that sit on their asses all night and drink beer, eat chips and watch TV? Of course, I am putting in 1,000% more work than they are. The thing that really chaps my ass is when I see these guys do these "transformations" in like 8 or 10 months going from fat to ripped. Well, I have been stuck at roughly the same state for the last year or so. I understand its all about hormones and the comparative ratios with each other. I literally feel betrayed by my body.

    I am probably going to order some of this and if I am correct in my sleuthing, I should see a whole lot of things change. T levels, thyroid levels, disappearing psorasis(in studies, lowering prolactin levels showed a clear regression in active psoriasis). I literally would be a perfect test subject for this, Brundel, if this works the way it is supposed to. I'm also taking Formeron, which is definitely helping, but I still think lowering my prolactin levels would help quite a bit...

    Here is one of the studies I am looking at:

    "Results: Serum PRL levels were statistically highly significant among patients compared to controls, with significant decrease among patients after treatment. A significant positive correlation was found between PRL serum levels and PASI score before and after treatment. Correlations between HAMA and HAMD with PASI were statistically significant before and after therapy, and so the correlations between HAMA and HAMD with PRL serum levels were also statistically significant before and after therapy.

    Conclusion: Prolactin seems to have a role in the pathogenesis of psoriasis. This role may represent a cause and/or a consequence of psoriasis pathology. The most likely scenario is that PRL enhances interferon-induced chemokine production in keratinocytes, thereby facilitating cutaneous T-cell infiltration. This raises the intriguing prospect that PRL may offer a novel future therapeutic target in psoriasis and other skin diseases that worsen in response to psychological distress."

    PASI scores refer to the active psoriasis lesions observed in patients

  25. Very interesting.
    Please keep me updated with your results. If, this product can help guys with psoriasis it would be awesome.
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