Solarize Triple Threat Log

[solarize]

Thanks for selection as a tester.
This Log will be for one month using a new product from BioScience Technologies - TRIPLE THREAT.
It is being sold as a Maximum Testosterone Amplifier:

Ingredients (Per 2cap serving) 120caps per bottle:
Triple Testosterone Complex : 855mg
(10% Protodioscin / 40% Saponins)
(20 % Protodioscin / 60% Saponins)
(40% Protodioscin / 80% Saponins)
Total Protodioscin 112mg
Total Saponins 394mg
4-etioallocholen-3,6,17-trione 150mg
6,7,-dyhydroxybergamottin (DHB) 100mg

Directions Are: Take two caps before workout on training days and two before bed. Non training days two caps before bed.

One Q on directions for use.
IT says take before workout and before bed (with water). Is this inferring you should take it on an empty stomach or not?

Took two caps today, nothing to report so far.

Bloodwork - These are my baseline levels.
Testosterone 23 nmol/L or 663ng/dl (5.0-25.0)
Free Testosterone 70 pmol/L (60.0-130.0)

Bb.com Log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=9266462#post9266462

 

[solarize]

Day 2:

Ok, today about 1 hour after I took triple threat I noticed extra agression. As I was walking through the city i was just like get the **** outta my way.. This continued till after gym. Nothing else to report as yet.

 

[BioScience]

You can take it either with food or empty stomach, but we recommend taking it with food for best results.

 

[BioScience]

BTW...thanks for posting your baseline blood levels :thumbsup:

This will be a great way to gauge the effects of the Triple Threat on T levels.

Looking forward to the results!

 

[solarize]

Day 3

What I would call a real rest day.
22 Laps of the Pool, thats all for today.

Triple Threat:
Increased libido so far, and what seems to be blood pressure. I normally have high bp anyway, but it has gone up slightly on TT. I think my appetite is up also, will be able to judge better over the coming days.

 

[solarize]

Day 4

Cardio : 1.1hours on bike
Gym: 5RMX Work

Supplement Response:
Noticed increased aggression again today. Libidio is back to normal.
I was definately stronger at the gym, but I can't be sure if this is the supp or just the way I have my training laid out.

Another week or two will be needed to acess that properly.
No sides to report.

 

[solarize]

Day 7

I took the weekend off weights as part of my program. Did some dancing saturday night.
Today I start AM/PM workouts (on some days).

Cardio : 1.1hours on bike

Gym Looks like this today (keep in mind I am still recovering from my back injury):
AM Workout

A1 Back Squat (narrow stance) (hammer Machine) - 30X10, 40X10, 40X10
A2 Seated Cable Rows (palms down grip) - 50X8X3
B1 DB Military Press(hammer Machine) - 30X8X3
B2 Lunges - BW+12.5DB X 10 X 3
C1 Standing Calf Raises (feet straight ahead) - 65 X 8 X3
C2 Incline Bench Press (wide grip) - 50X 8, 60X8, 60X6
Sets: 3
Reps: 6
Rest: 60s between pairings
Load: 8RM

PM Workout (will advise at end of day)

A1 Back Squat (hack squat machine)(wide stance) - 40X12X2
A2 Bentover Rows or Seated Cable Rows (palms up grip) - Machine Row machine 25X12, 35X12
B1 BB Military Press - 35X12X2
B2 Split Squats - 30X12X2
C1 Standing Calf Raises (feet angled out) - 60X12X2
C2 Incline Bench Press (wide grip) - 50X12, 60X12
Sets: 2
Reps: 12
Rest: 75s between each pairing
Load: 14RM

Triple Threat Response:
Aggression is still up. Noticed a slight increase in libido over what seemed to settle down last weeks. My strength is up, about 5%. No other sides to report. Blood pressure seems to have gone back down to "normal".

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[solarize]

Day 8

Cardio : 1.1 hours on bike
20 laps of pool

Gym : (Keep in mind still recoverying from back injury)
A1 Deadlifts : 40X12X4
A2 Dips : +20X8, +20X6, +20X6, +20X8
B1 Assisted Close Pulldowns (palms up grip) +20X8, +10X6, BWX6
B2 DB Triceps Extensions 15X8, 15X8, 15X8, 15X6
C1 Seated Calf Raise or Donkey Calf Raise (feet angled out) 40X6, 40X8, 40X8, 40X6
C2 Ab Work
Sets: 4
Reps: 6
Rest: 60s between pairings
Load: 8RM

Triple Threat Update :
Definately increased strength today. I'm rather sure this stuff is working well now. My dips were nice and smooth, and I went up on DB Extensions. BOdyweight is up slightly at 87.4kg.

 

[solarize]

Day 10

Yesterday was rest day (Just 1.1hours on bike for cardio).

Today
Cardio : Light walking

Gym : (Still working with back injury, leg/back work is light)
A1 Front Squat or BB Hack Squat : Smithmachin +20X12X4
A2 Upright Rows - Smith, +20X12X3
B1 DB Side Raise - 5X12, 6X12X2
B2 Leg Curls - 40X12X2, 45X12
C1 Bench Press - 60X12, 70X9, 70X9
C2 Barbell Curls (against wall because of back injury) 17.5X12, 22.5X12, 25X12
Sets: 3
Reps: 12
Rest: 70s between each pairing
Load: 14RM

Diet. Man I screwed it up again today, with a massive re-feed at sizzler, unfortunately, it was before my workout (not after), and I felt so bloated I didnt eat for like 5 hours till the workout.. Anyway, energy was really low at gym, but got through. I ate something like 5000cals today, easy. I could have lifted more on bench, (strength was there), just no energy. Aiming to get a lot more sleep tonite.

Triple Threat : Agression is still up and its causing problems with my girlfriend, but thats my own issue. Gym focus is increased, as in i REALLY want to train. Feeling a little bit "harder" - hard to say.

 

[jasonschaffin]

anything new??

 

[solarize]

Gym :

Weights have certainly gone up at the gym. Did some decent training with a partner on the weekend and managed

40kg DB PResses, which is substantially higher than previously.
However, my back injury is still keeping me from lifting to my potential.

Libido has levelled out (as in is stable) but is higher than normal.
I think I have lost a slight amount of bodyfat. I will update my bodyweight later today.

 

[solarize]

Day 16

Well, I started a new job and its totally ****ed me up. As such, I havent been able to train until today, so thats not great. But on the plus side, the training was good. My back is still sore all the time, but I am hopefull it is on the mend. I have Physio again tomorrow morning, so we will see.

I have done a bit of cardio in the form of dancing and walking the last few days.

Gym Today:
A1 Dips : warmup, +20X8, +20X7, +20X7 (excellent form, slow)
A2 Assisted Chins : +25X12, +15X8, +15X8, +15X8
B1 Lying DB Tricep Extension : 15X8X3 (excellent form)
C1 Seated Calves : 30X12, 50X6, 50X6, 50X6 (up weight)
B2 Lunges : +15DB a side X 10 X 3
C2 Ab Work
Sets 3
Reps 6
RMX 8

My diet has been really off because of this new job. However, what I consider "off" and others is probably different. My calories have been down a touch, but protein intake is still up. I have looking forward to a nice cheat meal tonite of Peking Duck ! And hoping to get in two gym sessions tomorow to help makeup for my deficit.

 

[solarize]

Day 17

Cardio : None

Diet:
Heaps of Oats/Tuna/Shakes/Milk/More oats/Salad

Gym : Excellent - I benched 100KG for the first time in a year!
Flat Bench: warmup, 80X6, 90X6, 100X4
Incline DB : 30X8, 30X7, 30X6
Pushups
Reverse Pushups
Flat Flyes (20X8X2)
Wall Bicep Curls barbel : 25X11X3 (slow)
Incline Bicep Curls : 15X8X2
Drop Set Cable Curls

Triple Threat _ libido is still up, strength is up and looking more vascular. I think it is helping with the extra cals too not becoming fat.

 

[solarize]

Day 18

Rest day.

Cardio : 40minutes on bike.

Not much else to report for today, VERY high protein in take day though. WIll post weight tomorow after gym.

 

[solarize]

Day 19

Cardio : Yesterday did some riding for 40 mins, today, none

Gym : (Still have back pain/injury so leg/back work is light)
A1 Back Squat (narrow stance) - 40X12, 70X8, 70X6, 70X7
A2 Seated Cable Rows (palms down grip) 50X8, 55X7, 55X6, 55X6
B1 DB Military Press (hammer machine) 30X6, 30X8, 35X6, 30X6
C1 Standing Calf Raises (feet straight ahead) 60X8, 70X6, 70X6, 70X6
C2 Shrugs : 32.5X12, 35X10, 35X10, 25X10
Sets: 4
Reps: 6
Rest: 60s between pairings
Load: 8RM

Triple Threat : Definately feel a kind of inner "pump", sort of like higher glyogen retention, or something of that nature. Strength and stamina feel good, there is a marked increase in both. Acne is developing again.

Bodyweight : Up to 88.5

Sleep : Seem to be able to sleep a bit longer.. Not sure if this is related to Triple Threat or not, but, its worth noting.

 

[solarize]

Day 21

Yesterdays Update:
Cardio : 20 Laps of Pool

Gym : (Back/Leg work still very light, because of back injury)
A1 45' Leg Press (wide stance) - 40X12X3
A2 Seated Hammer Row (iso lateral) (palms down grip)40X12X3(slow, easy)
B2 Split Squats - 3 sets
C1 Standing Calf Raises (feet angled out) 50X12, 60X9, 55X11
C2 Incline Bench Press (wide grip) 60X12X3 (slow)
Sets: 3
Reps: 12
Rest: 75s between each pairing
Load: 14RM

Gym was a bit ****ty today. My back just didnt feel right, so I called it a day early.. Its a bit sore now but no biggie. All things being well and I get enough sleep, hope to smash it in the morning.

AM Workout : added some AMP to get me going, and it does

Cardio : 10minutes warmup (like 120-140bpm)

Gym: (Still recovering from back injury)
A1 Deadlifts (narrow stance) 40X12X5
A2 Dips +20dbX6X4, +20dbX8
B1 Hammer IsoLaters (palms down grip) 40side X6 X 5
B2 DB Triceps Extensions 15X6, 17.5X6, 17.5X6, 15X6, 15X6
C1 Seated Calf Raise (feet angled in) 45X6X4
C2 Back Stretching / Physio exercises.
Sets: 5
Reps: 6
Rest: 60s between pairings
Load: 8RM

Triple Threat : Increased vascularity and pump still noticed. Sleeping well. Blood Pressure and "internal" heat is increased (aside from what AMP does). Still very horny. Strength is increasing, slowly, but steadily. Looking to go up weight on Dips next time and hopefully get 17.5 on all sets on Db extensions. For my size (i'm pretty skinny), triceps are by far my strongest bodypart.

 

[solarize]

Day 23 - Rest Day

Yesterday did a fair bit of cardio:

22 Laps of Pool
30minutes on cross country trainer

Today is rest.

Triple Threat : No difference noted since last log update.

 

[solarize]

Day 24 Update

Just light gym session today, as I have some serious dancing to do tomorrow night, and need my muscles loose and limber for drops/spins/handstands etc. Only got 5 hours sleep last night because of this, so, if she doesnt attack me again, maybe I can play catchup in sleep department tonite.

Triple Threat Update : Libido has gone into overdrive as of last night. Spent MANY a good HOUR(s) plural with g/f.. this stuff certainly makes a difference in that department.. a little bit like being 18 again, except with a ****load more experience Libido is still very high today, be interesting to see if this continues... as it has been up all cycle, but leveled off some time ago, and has now gone up again (like 50% atleast).

Benefits:
Increased Strength
Vascularity
LBM gain (1kg so far)
Strange pump in some muscles that never seems to go away
Libido increase.
Perhaps a little more alertness/attention span.

Sides:
So far, increased BP/internal heat/sweating.
Faster Facial hair growth
Some acne.
Oily skin/scalp
Very slight agression.

 

[solarize]

/me wishes more peeps would chime in with some input etc
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[krenalor]

Log looks good, how much body weight did you gain so far? Obviously seems to have raised the test and allowed good workouts.

 

[solarize]

Log looks good, how much body weight did you gain so far? Obviously seems to have raised the test and allowed good workouts.

1 Kilo total it seems. Will re-check this week as I did a fair amount of cardio over the easter break weekend.

 

[slydeflex]

1 Kilo total it seems. Will re-check this week as I did a fair amount of cardio over the easter break weekend.

how does triple threat compare to desiel test in terms of strength gains?

 

[kappaz]

how does triple threat compare to desiel test in terms of strength gains?

bump

 

[solarize]

Day 29

Will have blood drawn in the morning after overnight fast so as not to skew results. Results should be in end of next week.

Strength gains have been steady and seem about on par or a little more than Diesel Test. I will post full review with weight update/strength increase tomorow.

 

[solarize]

Day 30 - Wrap Up

Today is my last day on Triple Threat. I had blood drawn this morning after an overnight fast (testing for liver values/FBC/Free Test/Total Test - results should be available in a week or so).

Gym Poundage Increase : (Please keep in mind I was recovering - still am - from a back injury).

Shoulder Press Machine - Up2.5kg + reps (305RMX increased to 32.512RMX)
Incline Bench Machine - Up reps 5RMX 40kg increased to 12RMX
Lunges (DB) Up 2.5kg (careful of back on these)
Dips +20kg increased to +22.5kg for REPS
Flat Bench 80kg increased to 90kg for Reps (100kg for 4RMX also)

So thats some good gains I think.

Bodyweight : Increase 1kilo
Appearance : Noticebly harder/vascular appearance.

Side Effects: (negatives)
Increased Acne
Increased Oil on skin
Blood pressure and "heat" increase, leveled off at day 25.

Side Effects : (positive)
Increased strength, especially in lower rep range.
Increased libido, gradual increases, reaching about 70% increase at day 20.
Better Sleep
Some water weight loss

Recommendations : I can see Triple Threat being great during PCT, combined with something else. Also good as a standalone, but I think that 60days would be much better than just 30. I really only started to see "gains" after 2/3 weeks. I think the study done by PA for 8 weeks also shows the safety of this compound.

 

[BioScience]

Solarize, many thanks for keeping such a consistent and articulating log! I really appreciate the time and effort you put forth in order to provide all of us with truthful and insightful feedback!:thumbsup:

 

[solarize]

Blood results Tuesday

Will post blood test results Tuesday.

 

[solarize]

BLood Results

Bloodwork - These are my baseline levels.
Testosterone 23 nmol/L or 663ng/dl (5.0-25.0)
Free Testosterone 70 pmol/L (60.0-130.0)

After Triple Threat
Testosterone 12nmol/L (10-33)
Free 30 pmol/L (60-130)

THats REALLY weird, test is totally screwed after Triple Threat.. How Odd.

I'm going to run Nolva at 20mg and Clomid at 50mg for the next few weeks to sort this out. Dropping the Clomid at week 2 and adding Activate. Guess this is why you have testers for new products, they don't always work out the way you thought.

IF you want me to scan the Doc and put it up, happy to.

 

[Grassroots082]

BLood Results

Bloodwork - These are my baseline levels.
Testosterone 23 nmol/L or 663ng/dl (5.0-25.0)
Free Testosterone 70 pmol/L (60.0-130.0)

After Triple Threat
Testosterone 12nmol/L (10-33)
Free 30 pmol/L (60-130)

THats REALLY weird, test is totally screwed after Triple Threat.. How Odd.

I'm going to run Nolva at 20mg and Clomid at 50mg for the next few weeks to sort this out. Dropping the Clomid at week 2 and adding Activate. Guess this is why you have testers for new products, they don't always work out the way you thought.

IF you want me to scan the Doc and put it up, happy to.

Edit* Just kidding, should probably have paid closer attention to the thread.

That is strange solar, maybe Bio can chime in. Either way, congrats on the gains.

 

[BioScience]

BLood Results

Bloodwork - These are my baseline levels.
Testosterone 23 nmol/L or 663ng/dl (5.0-25.0)
Free Testosterone 70 pmol/L (60.0-130.0)

After Triple Threat
Testosterone 12nmol/L (10-33)
Free 30 pmol/L (60-130)

THats REALLY weird, test is totally screwed after Triple Threat.. How Odd.

I'm going to run Nolva at 20mg and Clomid at 50mg for the next few weeks to sort this out. Dropping the Clomid at week 2 and adding Activate. Guess this is why you have testers for new products, they don't always work out the way you thought.

IF you want me to scan the Doc and put it up, happy to.

Wow, that is really a shocker considering all the results we have received from the Triple Threat thus far has consistently shown increase in total test and free test!

There could be numerous variables explaining the drop in testosterone, but I believe that your original baseline blood levels does not give an accurate starting reference considering they were from last year. This was in no way your fault, as you were honest enough to disclose that information, but it was probably a poor judgement call on our end; and should have been taken into consideration.

Other factors that could have played a role in the drop of test levels could be supplementation (OTC or prescription) taken after the blood being drawn, sickness, stress, dieting or prolonged cutting phase. Any of these variables (and many others) could have caused a drop after the original blood test before the Triple Threat was even started. Not saying these are definitive reasons why but not beyond the scope of reason to such a shocking outcome especially considering the experiences you've described throughout your log displayed characteristics of increased test levels.

One thing is for certain: solarize is truly an unbiased tester willing to share honest feedback for the benefit of the consumer and the company.

 

[solarize]

Response

Yeah, definately could be some sort of illness. My white blood cell count was shot, and I have been feeling REALLY lethargic, haven't been to gym this week (cept for today).. I think very much related to the low test scores.

Like I said, I liked the Triple Threat and found it beneficial. The Test results say otherwise, but hey, you get weird stuff like that sometimes (I remember when I ran UH the first time and my responses to what it did at high dose, people were shocked at, however it has now been shown that ATD is very strong, and 100mg a day is just too much).

Running Nolva at 40mg a day, for the next few weeks (ramping down to 20mg in a week).
Running Rebound XT at 25mg a day
And, ZMA at night.
Week three I will add Activate Beta.

Thanks for letting me test your product. Enjoyed it immensly (cept for blood pressure increase). The vascular effects were particularly pronouned.