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Liposolv


The Solution to site specific fat loss!!



What is Liposolv? ? Liposolv is a synergistic blend of nutritional supplements formulated with the purpose of targeting trouble areas of the body. This formula is further advanced by utilizing a delivery system that encourages it to reach under the skin where fat tries to hide!



To understand the brilliance of Liposolv? you have to understand the function of the ingredients. Let?s look at one in particular. This ingredient not only is an incredibly active lipolytic (fat burning) agent in its own right but it also has a side effect ? a side effect which greatly potentiates the delivery of everything else in the formula.



OK, lets step back



Let us first go back and discuss what a topical fat reducer actually is? Okay, maybe you are new to all of this. So if you are not aware, these are creams, lotions or liquids containing special fat burning ingredients. You apply these to your skin, after which they should absorb through your skin, hopefully making their way to the fat under the skin (called the subcutaneous fat). When these fat burning ingredients encounter this fat, they are supposed to induce metabolic reactions which causes the fat to be released into the blood stream as free-fatty acids. In other words, they melt that fat away.



Well in theory this is great. And there are a few nice active ingredients; such as the methylxanthines - that if were able to make it to the subcutaneous fat, they really would do a nice job breaking it down for release.



However, this does not always work well in theory. Why? Well, for a couple of reasons. First and foremost because it?s pretty difficult to get these actives down into the fat underneath the skin. Getting them through the first layer of the skin (the stratum corneum) is hard enough, then what is really hard is not having them get swished away into the general circulation by the ample blood flow in the dermis (the main skin layer). If it can get through this though, then it?s clear sailing to the subcutaneous fat.



Secondly, your body is pretty efficient at finding ways to keep its fat from being broken down ? even under the onslaught of powerful lipolytic agents such as the one we have mentioned. It has key enzymes that it can turn up or turn down to keep the ?fat storing thermostat? pretty much where it wants it to stay.



Well, Liposolv has two novel ingredients that I believe will go a long way in solving these two big roadblocks to spot reduction efficacy.


Is your adrenaline pumping?


Remember one of the first problems I mentioned? The one about so little of the ingredients you apply to your skin making their way to subcutaneous fat because they get swept away by the dermal blood vessels? Well, we have something to really help solve that. But not only does this stuff help solve this problem, this stuff probably just happens to be the most lipolytic (fat burning) compound that your body makes!!



I am talking about epinephrine!!! Perhaps better known as adrenaline. Yep, sounds almost too simple to be cutting edge. But let me tell you, it works!! And not only does it work, you can actually see it work.



When you add epinephrine to a carrier base (like the one for Liposolv?) and apply it to your skin, something very odd happens after about 10 ?20 minutes. Your skin starts to turn white! This effect is called blanching, and is the result of very potent vasoconstriction (don?t worry, this effect is temporary and is pretty much over within 45 minutes).



Now why is this so exciting to us? Because it means that blood flow in your skin is temporarily being shut down. As a consequence of this, the active ingredients in the rest of the Liposolv? will have much less chance of being taken up by the dermal blood flow and so instead will be able to permeate right on down to the subcutaneous fat.



Of course this is only one aspect as to why epinephrine is such an exciting ingredient. The other is the fact that it?s in and of itself such a powerful fat melter! Epinephrine is a strong beta-adrenergic agonist and when such compounds activate adipose cell beta- receptors they initiate a cascade of events resulting in fatty acid release from stored fat.





The cAMP factor

The first and most important of these events is the elevation of a chemical messenger called cyclic-AMP (cAMP). Epinephrine elevates cAMP by upregulating an enzyme in the fat cells called adenylate cyclase. Well interestingly enough, there is another amazing compound called forskolin that upregulates adenylate cyclase and raises cAMP through an entirely different mechanism ? one that does not involve beta-adrenergic receptors at all. So to maximize cAMP production, in addition to epinephrine, Liposolv? also contains 95% forskolin extract.



So what we have here are two very potent and divergent ways to raise the fat burning powerhouse cAMP. There are two enemies of cAMP however:



Phosphodiesterase enzyme and the adenosine receptors.




When your fat cells see there is too much cAMP around they want to destroy it ? and they do so by using an enzyme known as phosphodiesterase. Sounds like what we would want to do now is find a way to shut down phosphodiestrase, so cAMP can stick around and melt some fat!



As far as the adenosine receptors go, these are located on the surface of the fat cells. They bind to a compound your body makes called adenosine, and when they do so they send a signal to your fat cells to stop making cAMP. We definitely want to knock out this bad boy too if we can.



The answer to combating both of these enemies of cAMP lies in theophylline, which is a powerful member of a class of compounds known as the methylxanthines. Theophylline will inhibit phosphodiesterase in the fat cells, so that cAMP will degrade much less readily. Theophylline will also bind and block adenosine receptors, so that their negative contribution is eliminated also.



The licorice factor



Well, what I have spelled out for you so far are some very impressive lipolytic ingredients, as well as a nifty way to make sure these compounds are absorbed efficiently right where you want them to be ? the subcutaneous fat.



But what about that second big conundrum I talked about that gets in the way of these topical fat burners exerting their full effect? I am talking about your body?s dastardly enzymatic mechanisms that it can turn on to counteract the lipolytic activities of all these wonderful ingredients.



One of the major enzymes your body uses to regulate fat storage and release was only recently discovered. It is called 11B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type-1, or 11-HSD1 for short.



What 11-HSD1 does is regulate the amount of cortisol in the fat cells. Cortisol does a couple of very bad things to fat cells. First of all, it promotes the storage of new fat (triglycerides) into existing fat cells. Not only that, but cortisol also stimulates the production of new fat cells (a process called preadipocyte differentiation).



So even though you may be melting off some of that fat with the lipolytic ingredients I mentioned earlier, your body will just respond by storing more fat. But not only that, it will also start making more fat cells!



So we have to find a way to lower cortisol levels in the fat cells by inhibiting 11-HSD1. And this can be done by a compound extracted from licorice called Glycyrrhetinic acid (GA)



Now this is not just theory, some researchers actually made a cream out of GA and administered them to women?s thighs (one thigh got the GA, the other thigh got placebo cream). What they found was the circumference of the GA

thighs, and the amount of subcutaneous fat in the GA thighs, were significantly reduced compared to the placebo thighs [Armanini D et.al., Glycyrrhetinic acid, the active principle of licorice, can reduce the thickness of subcutaneous thigh fat through topical application?. Steroids, 2005 Jul;70(8):538-42].



Now if GA alone can do that, think of what might happen with all the other Liposolv ingredients thrown in there too!! Not only that, but think if you replaced the cream with a much more effective penetrating vehicle such as the USP DMSO/isopropanol mixture found in Liposolv!!!!
 
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is a spayer or "gel pump"????

i need one!
 
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Suggested retail is $59.99, but of course it will be much cheaper online.
 

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interesting product, very innovative.
 
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It is a spray.

Up to 7 sprays per application twice per day. No need to rub it in.
like SKULPT=(leaking bottle) ...........but 7 spray's much? if yours change for pump is more ml per application?
 

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Liposolv


The Solution to site specific fat loss!!



What is Liposolv? ? Liposolv is a synergistic blend of nutritional supplements formulated with the purpose of targeting trouble areas of the body. This formula is further advanced by utilizing a delivery system that encourages it to reach under the skin where fat tries to hide!



To understand the brilliance of Liposolv? you have to understand the function of the ingredients. Let?s look at one in particular. This ingredient not only is an incredibly active lipolytic (fat burning) agent in its own right but it also has a side effect ? a side effect which greatly potentiates the delivery of everything else in the formula.



OK, lets step back



Let us first go back and discuss what a topical fat reducer actually is? Okay, maybe you are new to all of this. So if you are not aware, these are creams, lotions or liquids containing special fat burning ingredients. You apply these to your skin, after which they should absorb through your skin, hopefully making their way to the fat under the skin (called the subcutaneous fat). When these fat burning ingredients encounter this fat, they are supposed to induce metabolic reactions which causes the fat to be released into the blood stream as free-fatty acids. In other words, they melt that fat away.



Well in theory this is great. And there are a few nice active ingredients; such as the methylxanthines - that if were able to make it to the subcutaneous fat, they really would do a nice job breaking it down for release.



However, this does not always work well in theory. Why? Well, for a couple of reasons. First and foremost because it?s pretty difficult to get these actives down into the fat underneath the skin. Getting them through the first layer of the skin (the stratum corneum) is hard enough, then what is really hard is not having them get swished away into the general circulation by the ample blood flow in the dermis (the main skin layer). If it can get through this though, then it?s clear sailing to the subcutaneous fat.



Secondly, your body is pretty efficient at finding ways to keep its fat from being broken down ? even under the onslaught of powerful lipolytic agents such as the one we have mentioned. It has key enzymes that it can turn up or turn down to keep the ?fat storing thermostat? pretty much where it wants it to stay.



Well, Liposolv has two novel ingredients that I believe will go a long way in solving these two big roadblocks to spot reduction efficacy.


Is your adrenaline pumping?


Remember one of the first problems I mentioned? The one about so little of the ingredients you apply to your skin making their way to subcutaneous fat because they get swept away by the dermal blood vessels? Well, we have something to really help solve that. But not only does this stuff help solve this problem, this stuff probably just happens to be the most lipolytic (fat burning) compound that your body makes!!



I am talking about epinephrine!!! Perhaps better known as adrenaline. Yep, sounds almost too simple to be cutting edge. But let me tell you, it works!! And not only does it work, you can actually see it work.



When you add epinephrine to a carrier base (like the one for Liposolv?) and apply it to your skin, something very odd happens after about 10 ?20 minutes. Your skin starts to turn white! This effect is called blanching, and is the result of very potent vasoconstriction (don?t worry, this effect is temporary and is pretty much over within 45 minutes).



Now why is this so exciting to us? Because it means that blood flow in your skin is temporarily being shut down. As a consequence of this, the active ingredients in the rest of the Liposolv? will have much less chance of being taken up by the dermal blood flow and so instead will be able to permeate right on down to the subcutaneous fat.



Of course this is only one aspect as to why epinephrine is such an exciting ingredient. The other is the fact that it?s in and of itself such a powerful fat melter! Epinephrine is a strong beta-adrenergic agonist and when such compounds activate adipose cell beta- receptors they initiate a cascade of events resulting in fatty acid release from stored fat.





The cAMP factor

The first and most important of these events is the elevation of a chemical messenger called cyclic-AMP (cAMP). Epinephrine elevates cAMP by upregulating an enzyme in the fat cells called adenylate cyclase. Well interestingly enough, there is another amazing compound called forskolin that upregulates adenylate cyclase and raises cAMP through an entirely different mechanism ? one that does not involve beta-adrenergic receptors at all. So to maximize cAMP production, in addition to epinephrine, Liposolv? also contains 95% forskolin extract.



So what we have here are two very potent and divergent ways to raise the fat burning powerhouse cAMP. There are two enemies of cAMP however:



Phosphodiesterase enzyme and the adenosine receptors.




When your fat cells see there is too much cAMP around they want to destroy it ? and they do so by using an enzyme known as phosphodiesterase. Sounds like what we would want to do now is find a way to shut down phosphodiestrase, so cAMP can stick around and melt some fat!



As far as the adenosine receptors go, these are located on the surface of the fat cells. They bind to a compound your body makes called adenosine, and when they do so they send a signal to your fat cells to stop making cAMP. We definitely want to knock out this bad boy too if we can.



The answer to combating both of these enemies of cAMP lies in theophylline, which is a powerful member of a class of compounds known as the methylxanthines. Theophylline will inhibit phosphodiesterase in the fat cells, so that cAMP will degrade much less readily. Theophylline will also bind and block adenosine receptors, so that their negative contribution is eliminated also.



The licorice factor



Well, what I have spelled out for you so far are some very impressive lipolytic ingredients, as well as a nifty way to make sure these compounds are absorbed efficiently right where you want them to be ? the subcutaneous fat.



But what about that second big conundrum I talked about that gets in the way of these topical fat burners exerting their full effect? I am talking about your body?s dastardly enzymatic mechanisms that it can turn on to counteract the lipolytic activities of all these wonderful ingredients.



One of the major enzymes your body uses to regulate fat storage and release was only recently discovered. It is called 11B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type-1, or 11-HSD1 for short.



What 11-HSD1 does is regulate the amount of cortisol in the fat cells. Cortisol does a couple of very bad things to fat cells. First of all, it promotes the storage of new fat (triglycerides) into existing fat cells. Not only that, but cortisol also stimulates the production of new fat cells (a process called preadipocyte differentiation).



So even though you may be melting off some of that fat with the lipolytic ingredients I mentioned earlier, your body will just respond by storing more fat. But not only that, it will also start making more fat cells!



So we have to find a way to lower cortisol levels in the fat cells by inhibiting 11-HSD1. And this can be done by a compound extracted from licorice called Glycyrrhetinic acid (GA)



Now this is not just theory, some researchers actually made a cream out of GA and administered them to women?s thighs (one thigh got the GA, the other thigh got placebo cream). What they found was the circumference of the GA

thighs, and the amount of subcutaneous fat in the GA thighs, were significantly reduced compared to the placebo thighs [Armanini D et.al., Glycyrrhetinic acid, the active principle of licorice, can reduce the thickness of subcutaneous thigh fat through topical application?. Steroids, 2005 Jul;70(8):538-42].



Now if GA alone can do that, think of what might happen with all the other Liposolv ingredients thrown in there too!! Not only that, but think if you replaced the cream with a much more effective penetrating vehicle such as the USP DMSO/isopropanol mixture found in Liposolv!!!!
Is this the same prodcut that was out in 2006? Seems like same write up.

Is it availble in stores now ? I couldnt find it

Intrested in giving this a try as If it is the same product I didnt get a chance to try it in 06
 
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Yes it is the same product that was released previously.


Pssst: There's new thread in the company promo section....we need testers :)
 

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Nice I will look for the thread. When will you be picking people ?

What time frame will the beta and retail product be out

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The promo thread will close on Friday.

I'll get back to you with a better time frame when I find out.
 
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I am intrigued by this. But please explain one thing to me... how in the world is Epinephrine legal in this product?
 
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let us know when your taking more apps.
 

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I am intrigued by this. But please explain one thing to me... how in the world is Epinephrine legal in this product?
Epinephrine (also referred to as adrenaline; see Terminology) is a hormone and neurotransmitter[1] that participates in the "fight or flight" response of the sympathetic nervous system.[2] It is a catecholamine, a sympathomimetic monoamine produced by the adrenal glands from the amino acids phenylalanine and tyrosine.
 
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Epinephrine (also referred to as adrenaline; see Terminology) is a hormone and neurotransmitter[1] that participates in the "fight or flight" response of the sympathetic nervous system.[2] It is a catecholamine, a sympathomimetic monoamine produced by the adrenal glands from the amino acids phenylalanine and tyrosine.
I know what adrenaline is. I don't understand what your post is meant to convey. I asked about the legality of said hormone. Being produced by the adrenals from different amino acids means nothing. Otherwise Testosterone would be legal since it is just mostly cholesterol.
 

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I know what adrenaline is. I don't understand what your post is meant to convey. I asked about the legality of said hormone. Being produced by the adrenals from different amino acids means nothing. Otherwise Testosterone would be legal since it is just mostly cholesterol.
Because it is a topical supplement.
 
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Epinephrine (also referred to as adrenaline; see Terminology) is a hormone and neurotransmitter[1] that participates in the "fight or flight" response of the sympathetic nervous system.[2] It is a catecholamine, a sympathomimetic monoamine produced by the adrenal glands from the amino acids phenylalanine and tyrosine.
great answer...
 

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Ill ask PA and get back to ya.

from PA

epinephrine is a naturally occuring compound. its use in liposolv is as a topical lipolytic for spot reduction of fat. it has never been marketed for this purpose before, and never has been applied to the FDA for use as a drug for this purpose to my knowledge
 
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So basically you're saying that you have no idea about any of this and PA is all-knowing?

I would seriously reconsider selling epinepherine in a dietary supplement
 
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Just looked it up. Epinepherine is an FDA regulated compound that requires FDA approval. This was told to be by 2 different US Chemical suppliers.



Just like you can't sell phenylephedrine in a dietary supplement.



Another study says they are not FDA regulated, but also not FDA unregulated. They also include this:

Two deaths have been attributed to the lay use of compound topical anesthetics. In response, the FDA has announced the strengthening of its efforts against unapproved drug products.
 
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"So basically you're saying that you have no idea about any of this and PA is all-knowing?

I would seriously reconsider selling epinepherine in a dietary supplement "


They do post in another thread that this product is licensed from Patrick Arnold.
 
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"So basically you're saying that you have no idea about any of this and PA is all-knowing?

I would seriously reconsider selling epinepherine in a dietary supplement "


They do post in another thread that this product is licensed from Patrick Arnold.
They need to put it right on the label to protect their company
 
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Perhaps but that why Fit n Firm referenced Patrick Arnold.
 
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Doesn't matter who it is licensed from. I don't think the street dealers got a break cause they licensed their coke from Pablo Escobar.
 

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Doesn't matter who it is licensed from. I don't think the street dealers got a break cause they licensed their coke from Pablo Escobar.
If you have a problem with it, contact patrick arnold.
 
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