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    I ended up just flushing what was left of my bottle down the toilet. Not ever buying this stuff again, that's for sure.

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    Wow there is a huge thread on bb about this. PA tested out some furaz caps and guess what...it contains caffein.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big3upgrade View Post
    Wow there is a huge thread on bb about this. PA tested out some furaz caps and guess what...it contains caffein.....
    If that turns out to be true, this will have completely ruined Axis Labs' reputation with me.
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    i have two bottles LOT#75714 EXP1/12 blue/white caps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    I realize that many have complained of a powerful "stim" effect from Furazadrol, and I really don't have any good answers as to why that was occurring.

    I will be doing my very best to try and get a clear-cut answer as to why this was happening to some of you.
    Where is the clear-cut answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UglyRock View Post
    Where is the clear-cut answer?
    I bought two bottles of Lot 75714 EXP 1/12
    -See the other thread where you complained some more. I have no answers on this yet, I have also been very very busy. I will try to give you something more this week. I personally have no idea why some people had weird side effects.
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    Axis Labs takes such claims very seriously.

    I have been informed that this matter is being looked into further and we should have a response soon.

    If anyone is noticing adverse effects from taking Furazadrol, stop use immediately.
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    I've got 2 bottles lot#810182 exp 01/11. Are these part of the "new" batch that people are having problems with? Or are they old enough that i should be ok to use them/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayzen View Post
    I've got 2 bottles lot#810182 exp 01/11. Are these part of the "new" batch that people are having problems with? Or are they old enough that i should be ok to use them/
    I would have to say they are a newr batch
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    hey thanks for the quick reply, howerver, i just got home and opend up a bottle, and the pills are white, not blue and white like most people are saying they have. anything to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayzen View Post
    hey thanks for the quick reply, howerver, i just got home and opend up a bottle, and the pills are white, not blue and white like most people are saying they have. anything to that?
    have only heard people having these effects with the white and blue











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    Yeah I took 3 caps yesterday 0 stim effect or any weird sides. Also I opened up one cap and the powder was white, dunno if that's relevant thou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayzen View Post
    Yeah I took 3 caps yesterday 0 stim effect or any weird sides. Also I opened up one cap and the powder was white, dunno if that's relevant thou.
    In my opinion, you are in the clear. I suspect that you would have had sides at that dosage right away, especially if you dosed on an empty stomach.

    In my personal opinion (personal opinion, not from the company just to be clear), I think you could dose as you typically see in the logs and should have a successful cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayzen View Post
    Yeah I took 3 caps yesterday 0 stim effect or any weird sides. Also I opened up one cap and the powder was white, dunno if that's relevant thou.
    sweet rock out the furazadrol LOG man
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    Started my Furazadrol Cycle today.


    I just started my cycle today of Furazadrol lot #03A994 exp. 4/12.

    I took one pill at 8:00 AM, I pill at 2:00 PM and I just took one now at 8:00 PM......so far I feel fine.

    Assuming I can sleep OK tonight, I'm going to continue taking 3 pills a day at these times as I work out late afternoon.

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    I opened up one of the pills from my bottles, powder was brown. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be white. I definitely have 2 bunk bottles of this stuff. I'm still waiting on something to be done about it...
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    It's been longer than 45 days, I didn't know anything of this. Or is this incident an exception?
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    I'd like to know what was is this stuff....it f**ked me up, too. Scary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstar View Post
    I just started my cycle today of Furazadrol lot #03A994 exp. 4/12.

    I took one pill at 8:00 AM, I pill at 2:00 PM and I just took one now at 8:00 PM......so far I feel fine.

    Assuming I can sleep OK tonight, I'm going to continue taking 3 pills a day at these times as I work out late afternoon.

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    how is this stuff treating you man?? Any sides to report??

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinivan View Post
    how is this stuff treating you man?? Any sides to report??

    cheers
    I taking 3 pills of Furazadrol, one pill at a time spread out through out the day and 2 pills of RAGE T19 Tren, 100 mg of tren total and 150 mg of Furazadrol total and I feel fine now.

    I had a headache for a day so increased my water intake to a gallon plus of water per day and this took care of the headache, although I'm now in the bathroom a lot.

    I have lost about 3 pounds in the first 5 days although this I'm sure is water weight. I'm not trying to lose weight, just tone up and get some more lean muscle.....so it will be interesting to see how this stack does.
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    You don't feel any stimulant-like effects, sleeplessness, loss of appetite?
    Maybe you got some good ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by learn View Post
    Axis Labs products are of the highest quality, purity, and potency.
    Given the circumstances, this is obviously false.

    Quote Originally Posted by learn View Post
    Please if you are having any issues like this please feel free to take time and fill this out
    remember it has to be 45 days from purchase date.
    This is bull****. That's basically like saying "no refunds". I bought a couple bottles 4 months back, waited a month to setup a cycle. Took them for a couple of weeks and got really sick, forcing me to stop my cycle and waste all the other products I bought and got halfway through. So because I didn't run the furaz immediately and discover your product was the problem, I cannot even get a refund?! What a bull**** scenario. Axis Labs poisons me, and then won't even give me my money back. Kickass. 2 thumbs up for a shady supplement company that DOESN'T stand by it's products. Also, 2 thumbs up for framing it in a way that makes it seem like you DO (oh but...45 days to purchase date...LOL).You can bet this story is going to be spread around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarkane0 View Post
    Given the circumstances, this is obviously false.



    This is bull****. That's basically like saying "no refunds". I bought a couple bottles 4 months back, waited a month to setup a cycle. Took them for a couple of weeks and got really sick, forcing me to stop my cycle and waste all the other products I bought and got halfway through. So because I didn't run the furaz immediately and discover your product was the problem, I cannot even get a refund?! What a bull**** scenario. Axis Labs poisons me, and then won't even give me my money back. Kickass. 2 thumbs up for a shady supplement company that DOESN'T stand by it's products. Also, 2 thumbs up for framing it in a way that makes it seem like you DO (oh but...45 days to purchase date...LOL).You can bet this story is going to be spread around.

    I thought axis labs showed a certificate that demonstrated there was no caffeine or other stimulants on it but i still se LOTS!!! of complaints from users all around different forums, is not just here at am. I myself, unaware , bought 2 bottles of it and it has expiration date 04-12 .
    The caps are blue and white but the powder is white darker kinda like gray not black as some described the bad batch. Any chances it might be a good batch??

    I agree with you in that telling people to get a refund but lwith that particular limitation is basically a useles guarantee. Cause the product has stopped being made for quie some time now and thus your only giving people who just bought the product a chance and not the other folks which are more likely to have the bad batches.

    I just hope jester keeps side free cause seems like i have the same batch as he does , the exp 04/12

    Oh boy, hope this issue comes up to clear soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrzyHrse View Post
    You don't feel any stimulant-like effects, sleeplessness, loss of appetite?
    Maybe you got some good ones.
    I honestly don't feel any side effects other that I feel a little wired, jittery when I first took the Firazadrol for the first 3 days. I take one at 7:00 AM, one at 4:00 PM and one around 9:00 PM. I honestly sleep like a rock when taking this which really surprises me.

    I called Axis Labs on Tuesday when I had the headache and the guy there, I think it may have been Randy, told me that some of the Furazadrol shipments may be a little more potent than others?

    I really believe one of the keys to taking the Furazadrol and other PH's that I have take such as RAGE 3 & 2 is drinking a lot of water to eliminate side effects. I drink over a gallon of water a day and a gallon of water is a lot of water....but if you are having some side effects from Furazadrol I would really see if you can drink a gallon or more of water a day and see if they go a way.

    As for the effectiveness of my Furazadrol & RAGE T-19 Tren stack, it's to early to tell as I have only been on this stack for 6 days. As, I mentioned in my earlier post I lost 3 pounds in the past 6 days....which I'm trying not to do. I want to gain lean mass on this 5 week stack, hopefully around 5 pounds of muscle. I'm eating clean, not drinking alcohol and work out 4-5 days a week.

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    ha jstar what is the lot # of your fura maybe what you got is a new lot where they fixed the problem? because that would be super cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobloblaw View Post
    ha jstar what is the lot # of your fura maybe what you got is a new lot where they fixed the problem? because that would be super cool.

    My lot number is 03A094 exp. 4/12. It is brownish color as I opened a cap and looked at it.

    I called Axis labs and they said they put I think brown rice powder or something like that in the new batches as this helps with the high moisture content of the raw material.

    About the only mild side effect I have had is an often and on slight headache,
    which if I drink enough water goes a way.

    I'm trying to gain just a little lean mass of this cycle. I had originally planned to do a Diabolic, Epio-plex and Mass stack, but I'm just getting over a sore Rotator Cup so I though I would do more of a cutting stack with a higher rep work & lower weight out and see if I could gain 3 - 5 ponds of lean mass in 5 weeks on the Furazadrol and T-19 stack. I will save my Diabolics mass building stack for February when hopefully the shoulder is fully healed and I can lift heavier.

    The one thing that I'm hoping I don't experience from the Furazadrol & RAGE T-19 Tren stack is lethargy as I did on my stack last March of RAGE 3 & 2.

    I'm taking the Furazadrol for 5 weeks and the RAGE T9 for 4 weeks, so I'm going to have a week at the end of just Furazarol and I'm going to start PCT at the start of the 5th week. So I will be on the Furazadrol and the PCT for a week and then off the Furazadrol and just the PCT.

    My PCT is Resveratrol and Testrobol-X Extreme. I might also throw in some Novedex XT at the end of my PCT if I think I need it.

    I was originally going to take the Novadex XT the whole time, but I was told that the Resveratrol alone would be better as it would keep the estrogen in my body and that the estrogen helps keeps gains and with recovery. I was told that Resveratrol doesn't allow the estrogen to attach to anything that would cause gyno etc. I was told that Novedex XT stops the estrogen all together and this can cause you to lose gains and recover slower....does any know if this is true or not?

    J

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    Novedex XT is not really good at all for PCT resv is better or even better better would be like that TRS by primordial performance it covers almost all the bases. but its also good to always have a serm on hand in case theres a problem. plus your running 2 phs one being tren which is one i think most people say to have serm atleast on hand.
    as far as the fura i've been poking around here for a bit and i think the powder should be white like the old ones were your are the same color as the ones PA tested and got a caffeine spike from. personally id think twice before running that, just me. IDK if that's all true but enough people are all say the same thing about the same lot as yours so....... just be safe, idk what your ph experience is but i don't really like the looks of that PCT.

    The Official PCT of 2009
    a great tread for some research one pct and what what as far as PP and serms.

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/p...ery-stack.html its just out of stock alot because people like it.
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    This is my second PH cycle. As for the PCT, I agree a serm would be best but I haven't been able to find one form a reliable source.

    I think the Resveratrol and Testrobol-X Extreme should be enough assuming I don't run into any gyno issues. I have used a tren compound before and didn't have gyno issues, so hopefully the same will hold true with this cycle. If gyno would start to occur I would start the Novadex XT and hope this is enough.

    Any suggestions on what one might use to prevent the lethargic feeling I got in my last cycle?

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    ok well that cool you've already run tren and your not stacking with the fura on your first run, just remember its a new cycle and its a new ball game. but Novadex XT will not do one thing if gyno occurs. a great product for cycles im sure youve heard of is IA's cycle support

    as for lethargic feeling i say DHEA some times, taurine, or just good old sleep.
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    Axis labs Test Results for Furazadrol


    I called Axis Labs today and talked with Chris there as all this talk about Furazadrol being bad had me concerned.

    I have been taking Furazadrol for 8 days and I haven't had any side effects from Furazadrol other than a mild head ache if I didn't drink enough water. I have found drinking a gallon plus of water when taking any PH is very important.

    I'm taking 3 Furazadrol capsules a day, 1 in the morning when I get up, one at 4:00 PM and one around 9:00 or so before I go to bed. One huge plus to the Furazadrol is that it makes me sleep like a rock!

    Along with the Furzadrol, I'm taking 100 MG of RAGE T19 Tren a day.

    I don't know much about reading this test results but, 46.43 mg. of 5α-etioallocholan (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether per capsule I think would be pretty pure,

    Here are the test results Axis Labs sent me: Please note that Axis Labs told there is a typo on the lot number: 03M094..... it should be 03A094.

    ANALYTICAL REPORT
    TO: Axis Labs
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    DATE: March 11, 2009


    Sample: Lot Number:
    Axis Labs Furazadrol
    03M094 Analyte Result Unit

    5α-etioallocholan (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether

    5α-androstano (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether
    46.43 mg / cap


    * Analysis performed on a composite sample made from five capsules.
    Average fill weight = 799.48 mg

    Steroid analysis performed by GC-MS on a capillary column stationary phase of BPX5, 0.25m film: length: 30m

    x 0.1 mm ID. Oven Program: Initial Temp:50C, 1 min. Rate 1: 30C/min. Final Temp: 320C, 2 min. Detector

    Type: MS in positive ion Temperature: 320C Carrier Gas: He, 23psi. Average Linear Velocity:30 cm/sec at 50C. Injection Mode: Split. Split Ratio: 100:1. Injection Volume: 1.0 μL Injection Temperature: 250C Liner

    Type: 4 mm ID Single Taper. NIST fragmentation library used for identification

    Dinesh Patel, Ph.D.
    Laboratory Director

    This Report is issued in accordance with the Standard Terms and Conditions including but not limited to our services and reports (i) are for the benefit of the client only and may not be used by any other party for any purpose and (ii) relate solely to the sample(s) in our possession and cannot be applied to any other material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstar View Post
    I called Axis Labs today and talked with Chris there as all this talk about Furazadrol being bad had me concerned.

    I have been taking Furazadrol for 8 days and I haven't had any side effects from Furazadrol other than a mild head ache if I didn't drink enough water. I have found drinking a gallon plus of water when taking any PH is very important.

    I'm taking 3 Furazadrol capsules a day, 1 in the morning when I get up, one at 4:00 PM and one around 9:00 or so before I go to bed. One huge plus to the Furazadrol is that it makes me sleep like a rock!

    Along with the Furzadrol, I'm taking 100 MG of RAGE T19 Tren a day.

    I don't know much about reading this test results but, 46.43 mg. of 5α-etioallocholan (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether per capsule I think would be pretty pure,

    Here are the test results Axis Labs sent me: Please note that Axis Labs told there is a typo on the lot number: 03M094..... it should be 03A094.

    ANALYTICAL REPORT
    TO: Axis Labs
    12835 E. Arapahoe Road
    Tower One, Ste 450
    Centennial, CO 80112

    DATE: March 11, 2009


    Sample: Lot Number:
    Axis Labs Furazadrol
    03M094 Analyte Result Unit

    5α-etioallocholan (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether

    5α-androstano (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether
    46.43 mg / cap


    * Analysis performed on a composite sample made from five capsules.
    Average fill weight = 799.48 mg

    Steroid analysis performed by GC-MS on a capillary column stationary phase of BPX5, 0.25m film: length: 30m

    x 0.1 mm ID. Oven Program: Initial Temp:50C, 1 min. Rate 1: 30C/min. Final Temp: 320C, 2 min. Detector

    Type: MS in positive ion Temperature: 320C Carrier Gas: He, 23psi. Average Linear Velocity:30 cm/sec at 50C. Injection Mode: Split. Split Ratio: 100:1. Injection Volume: 1.0 μL Injection Temperature: 250C Liner

    Type: 4 mm ID Single Taper. NIST fragmentation library used for identification

    Dinesh Patel, Ph.D.
    Laboratory Director

    This Report is issued in accordance with the Standard Terms and Conditions including but not limited to our services and reports (i) are for the benefit of the client only and may not be used by any other party for any purpose and (ii) relate solely to the sample(s) in our possession and cannot be applied to any other material.
    ok that all cool but did they test for anything else like maybe a stim alone wit the compound thats where the problem might be. i also would like to know when/if you ramp it up to effective dose that most use for results itsnt it 6 caps a day not 3 if your getting mild side at that dose i feel your right on trace if you uped the dose to be all cracked out like the other. did you ever try more then 3 in a day?

    i hope its all fix i wanna run this stuff some time.
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    Trust me, if he took 3 of the ones I had, he would not be sleeping at night. They need to test those damn things for other compounds.
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    also i don't know how this crap works but if some one does help me out.

    "5α-androstano (2,3-c)-furazan-17β-tetrahydropyranal ether
    46.43 mg / cap

    * Analysis performed on a composite sample made from five capsules.
    Average fill weight = 799.48 mg"

    so like idk what the average fill weight is but if the ph content is 46.43 and the "average fill of 5 pills?" (again idk what this intales) would be 232.15mg of the ph in 5 pills leaving 567.33mg for there "rice powder filler" and maybe the cap weight. but its says the sample was a composite of the 5 caps so i would take that weight as just straight powder, right? there maybe some space left for each cap to contain an amount of still to cause effect. maybe some other people should get there caps test for more then the PH compound like the samples tested by PA(again idk no one can truly verify what he test was the real caps since it was from a third party but he has no reason to really lie nor does the guy who sent him the samples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrzyHrse View Post
    Trust me, if he took 3 of the ones I had, he would not be sleeping at night. They need to test those damn things for other compounds.
    well if he only did one at night he might sleep i can pop caffeine and primatene and like an hour later still sleep. some of us have used enough stims to negate small amounts.
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    I've been in the game for a long time, and I've used lots of supps. Nothing has ever kept me up like that before. Whatever is in that batch that I had isn't just a little caffeine
  

  
 

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