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Old 07-26-2008, 11:21 AM   #1
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Napalm non-responder

Is this possible? I'm three weeks deep into a bottle at 6 pumps a day and I have yet to notice anything. My diet and training are both on, and I'm already about 10-12% body fat. I didn't think there were non responders to this because the ingredients seem to be pretty standard.

Am I missing something here?
 
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Unfortunately, it's possible. It's very rare, though.

Here's the big question-did you take before and after measurements? Oftentimes, progress isn't visible to the naked eye.
 



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Are you certain that you are in a caloric deficit?

This is essential for Napalm to be effective WRT localized fat loss.

Diet may be the culprit,if you're going with a higher CH diet.Low CHO diets are essential for yohombine HCL to work its magic as insulin severely blunts Y-HCL.

Still,GA should have a noticeable effect on fat loss by itself,despite intake of CHO.

Please be more specific WRT your diet;how long you've been in deficit and if refeeds are implemented .
 



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I've been in a deficit for about 3 weeks utilizing anabolic diet. I'm very certain that I'm in deficit. (2300 calories at 200 pounds). I've had 2 refeeds so far but they haven't been veryu big. I am leaning out in the places I usually do when I cut: face, arms, upper back, but I haven't noticed any effects from the napalm. Also, I have indeed taken measurements around my naval and there is very very little change. I think I have a thin enough layer of fat on my belly that progess would be visual, also
 
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I've been in a deficit for about 3 weeks utilizing anabolic diet. I'm very certain that I'm in deficit. (2300 calories at 200 pounds). I've had 2 refeeds so far but they haven't been veryu big. I am leaning out in the places I usually do when I cut: face, arms, upper back, but I haven't noticed any effects from the napalm. Also, I have indeed taken measurements around my naval and there is very very little change. I think I have a thin enough layer of fat on my belly that progess would be visual, also
Well you may simply just be retaining water at the application site(Y HCL is well known for this) which is obscuring the loss in abdominal fat.In that case,the increased fat oxidation of both SAT and VAT (Napalm hits all the bases) on your abs will be readily evident within a week of cessation.

This is probably what is taking place,given your diet I highly doubt that Napalm simpy "isn't working".

Personally,I'm a fan of adding 1 gram of pure caffiene powder to a bottle of Napalm to act as a local diuretic.
 



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Old 07-26-2008, 01:28 PM   #6
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Alright let's hope so.

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Yeah, the true results won't be seen until a few days after you stop using it. Water retention and bloating is worse for some people than others.
 



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I strongly agree with the caffeine recommendation.
 



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I strongly agree with the caffeine recommendation.
I'll have to check that out if I decide to buy again. That is indeed a good idea.
 
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Well you may simply just be retaining water at the application site(Y HCL is well known for this) which is obscuring the loss in abdominal fat.In that case,the increased fat oxidation of both SAT and VAT (Napalm hits all the bases) on your abs will be readily evident within a week of cessation.

This is probably what is taking place,given your diet I highly doubt that Napalm simpy "isn't working".

Personally,I'm a fan of adding 1 gram of pure caffiene powder to a bottle of Napalm to act as a local diuretic.


If adding pure caffeine powder to Napalm would make it generally more effective, would you consider incorporating it directly into the formula? Furthermore, would that home-made approach not thicken the consistency of the current blend, hampering absorption? Lastly, would adding that much (pure) caffeine not throw the carefully titrated ratios of the different compounds into disequilibrium? I would appreciate responses to these questions, as I intend to use some Napalm soon, and may exploit this caffeine route.
 

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If adding pure caffeine powder to Napalm would make it generally more effective, would you consider incorporating it directly into the formula? Furthermore, would that home-made approach not thicken the consistency of the current blend, hampering absorption? Lastly, would adding that much (pure) caffeine not throw the carefully titrated ratios of the different compounds into disequilibrium? I would appreciate responses to these questions, as I intend to use some Napalm soon, and may exploit this caffeine route.
I've added caffeine into my Napalm (1 bottle solo, 1 bottle Napalm/Caffeine, 1 bottle Napalm/Clen) and have found that while the consistency might slightly change, it still enhances the effectiveness.

The caffeine is really just for the diuretic effect, so it is not necessary but it does make it easier to measure progress real time.

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I've added caffeine into my Napalm (1 bottle solo, 1 bottle Napalm/Caffeine, 1 bottle Napalm/Clen) and have found that while the consistency might slightly change, it still enhances the effectiveness.

The caffeine is really just for the diuretic effect, so it is not necessary but it does make it easier to measure progress real time.

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Could someone let me know the best place to napalm and pure caffeine? Please
 
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How were you measuring BF reduction? just curious as simple measurements would not work due to the likelyhood of h2o retention as stated above.
 



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