[thesinner]

Anyone tried using ephedrine instead of clen?

Since transdermals are time-released, the 30 hour half-life of clen becomes a bit more arbitrary, and both are β2 adrenergic agonists. Crush up some primatene, dissolve in some isoprop and add it in, eh?

[EasyEJL]

I wonder how much in mg you'd need/want in a transdermal.

[Heat Miser]

Originally Posted by bassgod272

Thanks Rodja, very interesting article. Looks like i'll have to pick up some Napalm and Capsazin, then add in some of my Clen to the mix

Be sure you understand that some of Napalms ingredients were chose precisely as an alternative to capzasin. The raspberry ketones are in place to provide the same mechanism as capzasin without the unpleasantness of the burn. It is quite effective all on its own. Some here have been home brewing and supplementing our AL/AR recipes for years just because we can

[bassgod272]

Originally Posted by B5150

Be sure you understand that some of Napalms ingredients were chose precisely as an alternative to capzasin. The raspberry ketones are in place to provide the same mechanism as capzasin without the unpleasantness of the burn. It is quite effective all on its own. Some here have been home brewing and supplementing our AL/AR recipes for years just because we can

So, if i've never tried Napalm before, would you suggest just using it stand alone without adding in the clen and not using capzasin before hand? I have been using clen for the past 3 days for the first time ever, and DO NOT enjoy the side effects. I need to sleep, lol. Someone stated earlier that adding clen to the Napalm and using clen transdermally would diminish the negative side effects, is this correct?

[macedaddy]

B, jsut making sure....... that i can add 30ml cap to 120ml napalm? I got that liquid stuff and the whold thing is 30ml.

[Heat Miser]

Originally Posted by macedaddy

B, jsut making sure....... that i can add 30ml cap to 120ml napalm? I got that liquid stuff and the whold thing is 30ml.

30ml will not fit in the bottle.

I draw out half (60ml) and a 30ml.

I have old Avant Sesathin bottles w/adapt-a-cap and syringe

[Heat Miser]

Originally Posted by bassgod272

So, if i've never tried Napalm before, would you suggest just using it stand alone without adding in the clen and not using capzasin before hand? I have been using clen for the past 3 days for the first time ever, and DO NOT enjoy the side effects. I need to sleep, lol. Someone stated earlier that adding clen to the Napalm and using clen transdermally would diminish the negative side effects, is this correct?

The choice is yours. Clen transdermally does not effect you the way it does systemically when taken orally.

The thing that you need to keep in mind is that if you add the clen liquid AND the cap liquid you are messing with the consistancy of the transdermal solution. I prefer not to add more than a total of 30ml to 120ml of the existing solution. If you were to use both then I suggest that you use 15ml of each (30ml) or 30ml of one or the other.

[bassgod272]

Originally Posted by B5150

The choice is yours. Clen transdermally does not effect you the way it does systemically when taken orally.

The thing that you need to keep in mind is that if you add the clen liquid AND the cap liquid you are messing with the consistancy of the transdermal solution. I prefer not to add more than a total of 30ml to 120ml of the existing solution. If you were to use both then I suggest that you use 15ml of each (30ml) or 30ml of one or the other.

Thanks for the info B. I'm definitely looking forward to trying out the clen/napalm mix. I will not use capzasin just yet. I'll wait and see how i react to the first combo.

[macedaddy]

one more q on my part.
If i apply the cap with the liquid applicator then apply the napalm/clen over top................

Good idea? without ruining the consistency of the napalm?

[EasyEJL]

that does work, just you may want to use gloves to apply the napalm then, so you dont get the cap on your hands.

[crader]

Originally Posted by macedaddy

one more q on my part.
If i apply the cap with the liquid applicator then apply the napalm/clen over top................

Good idea? without ruining the consistency of the napalm?

I have done this and it works fine!

[rpen22]

Originally Posted by macedaddy

one more q on my part.
If i apply the cap with the liquid applicator then apply the napalm/clen over top................

Good idea? without ruining the consistency of the napalm?

That's what I would do. Maybe wait a minute or so to let the Cap dry a bit and then apply the enhanced Napalm.

[Zombie]

i order some napalm, and i went to walgreens and saw that they have capzasin at 10 dlls there i might pick it up.