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Old 01-09-2008, 01:17 PM  
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Enhancing Your Napalm: Anyone clen do it!


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While we spent many hours researching and fine tuning the ingredients in Napalm, it would be naive and misleading to claim that it's the perfect supplement. Of course it's pretty great, but there are both financial and legislative limitations to supplement design that can impede manufacturers like ourselves and others in the quest to formulate the perfect product.

The purpose of this article is for those who may be less concerned with the above limitations and would like to enhance their Napalm with potentiating and synergistic ingredients. It's like supplementing your supplement with supplements – so simple!

Many of our loyal customers are familiar -- and likely experienced -- with tinkering and personalizing our topical products. From Absolved to the Lipoderm Series, and now with Napalm, the opportunity is available for additional actives and superior results.

Clenbuterol

Disclaimer: Clenbuterol is not legal for purchased OTC in North America, and thus should only be used if issued by a certified health service provider. Avant Research does not condone illegal supplement activity in any form, inclusive to anything mentioned in this piece and otherwise.

Onward....

While clenbuterol is restricted to asthmatics and horses these days, there is *only* a theoretical scenario whereby it could enhance topical fat loss. The addition of 5,000-6,000 MICROgrams/bottle *should* behave synergistically with the current actives. Further, clen in the HCL form has a nearly ideal logP and mixes well with the traditional Avant Research carrier used in Napalm (and Lipoderm).

Dosing: One week on, one week off has proven novel with respect to dosage frequency. As with all instances of enhanced topicals, it is recommended that two bottles are purchased, since this is the most efficient way to cycle the regular and spiked versions for maximum local fat reduction. I recommend leaving one unadulterated for the OFF period of application while allowing the enhanced version for the ON phase.

Best of Luck, and feel free to share your results and experiences.
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We should sticky this.
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Is this with liquid clen or powdered?
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:15 PM  
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This does work, it works VERY well, you DO hold water while on it but then you piss it all out and are left missing noticable amounts of fat, this is working very well on my core
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:24 PM  
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I am too excited by the results to even post.

Napalm is very effective. When it is supplemented it is even more so.

As CHAPS mentioned, you will hold a little water. Once you stop using it, a day or two later you will see addition size reduction to your waist or areas of application.

I have been following my cycle of Napalm with a cycle of Lipo-U. The diuretic of Lipo-U knocks a .5" or more off in a day or two and makes a very noticeable improvement.

Here is an example of what I have done:

1 Bottle Napalm
60ml (half bottle) supplemented - 10 days
60ml (other half bottle) - 10 days

1 Bottle Lipo-U
60ml (half bottle) supplemented - 10 days
60ml (other half bottle) - 10 days

I am 10 days into my repeat of the above. Very effective!
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Great feedback, guys! Much appreciated.
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Is this with liquid clen or powdered?
I believe we're talking ~5000 MICROgrams of bulk powder, ideally.

Here's Brian's suggestion for the liquid variety:

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Clen @100mcg/ml

30ml Clen + 120ml Naplam + Shake vigorously before each application.
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At 100mcg/ml liquid 3000mcg/30ml added to the 120ml bottle of Napalm is just about the cut-off point before it gets too runny. If you had a higher mcg/ml concentration of liquid that would be great. Powder would be greater.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:48 PM  
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My bottle says 200mcgs/ml so basicaly i just want 15mls of clen in the bottle of Napalm, hhmmm.. Will this upset gyno or prolactin problems?
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I would still add the 30ml.

Like I said my threshold was the consistency of the solution once it was added. 30ml was about all I would put in before it got too runny. Had I had 200mcg/ml I would still use the 30ml.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:54 AM  
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I would still add the 30ml.

Like I said my threshold was the consistency of the solution once it was added. 30ml was about all I would put in before it got too runny. Had I had 200mcg/ml I would still use the 30ml.
I see i see, well i think ill be doing this! 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or 1 week on 1 week off?

Thanks B fiddy, good help as always!

Also will this affect prolactin or gyno at all?
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Here is how I do it:

I take my bottle of Napalm and draw out 60ml. To that I add 15ml. I dose that 75ml at 4ml - 2 x day for 8ml. That lasts 9.5 days.

The balance of 60ml I dose at 3ml - 2 day for 6ml. That lasts an additional 10 day.

I do it this way so that I use it 10 days on 10 days off for beta receptor issues but I am still able to run my Napalm for the straight 20 days.

I follow my Napalm with Lipo-U with the same method of supplementation and cycle protocol. Then I repeat the Napalm/Lipo-U cycle.

So I run 10 on, 10 off, 10 on, 10 off ....repeating until I achieve desired results
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Well i just added 25mls to my bottle on napalm and some over spilled or so it seemed, i may just have trashed my bottle of napalm. LOL Oh well lets see how this goes!
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Well i just put it on. Well see how this goes. Im givin up my oral clen which burns fat great for me to see how this goes hopefully well!
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Well i just put it on. Well see how this goes. Im givin up my oral clen which burns fat great for me to see how this goes hopefully well!
Trans clen is the way to go. You don't get the nasty sides from it this way.
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Trans clen is the way to go. You don't get the nasty sides from it this way.

Sounds good! I cant wait to see how it turns out!
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Well i just added 25mls to my bottle on napalm and some over spilled or so it seemed, i may just have trashed my bottle of napalm. LOL Oh well lets see how this goes!
I had actually used the NAPALM by itself a couple of times. Then i just now added 25mls to my bottle of NAPALM and it almost filled up to the neck of the bottle. I shook really well, and ill be trying later. Hope this sounds ok and will work.

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I need to get a bottle of Napalm to try this. I logged a bottle of it a while back - really liked it.
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I've got 2 bottles of NAPALM to give this a try. Obviously the cycling is to prevent down regulation, but would it be ok to do both oral and transdermal at the same time, or is that too much
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I have a full bottle of Lipo-u and a partial of Napalm. I was going to mix clen with the lipo and then alternate weeks - 1 week lipo/clen and 1 week Napalm. After 4 weeks take 2 off and then 5 on again. I also bought Cap but still a little leary of the fire hot pain that it is said to cause.
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I too have used the clen/Napalm combo with the addition of cap and I love the results. All the dosings are perfect and there are no sides. The only downside was a white haze on my abs..but since it is winter here no biggie. But it could be drying to the skin. So I recommend a lotion to keep this under control.
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I too have used the clen/Napalm combo with the addition of cap and I love the results. All the dosings are perfect and there are no sides. The only downside was a white haze on my abs..but since it is winter here no biggie. But it could be drying to the skin. So I recommend a lotion to keep this under control.

More like Flawless!!!! Cmon Crader get with it!!! Haha jk jk.. Im using my enhanced napalm and just lovin it so far!
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I feel so left out of the Avant topicals, stupid Yohmbine ban
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what a dangerous combination...I threw my clen away after experiencing the worst. I just bought one napalm and tommorow should be arrive. Im stacking it with nutrex multiphase (made me lose weight with no special diet or workout in a two weeks trip).
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yohimbine ban? where? Im still be able to purchase


what a dangerous combination...I threw my clen away after experiencing the worst. I just bought one napalm and tommorow should be arrive. Im stacking it with nutrex multiphase (made me lose weight with no special diet or workout in a two weeks trip).
You're the only person I think I've ever read say they had negative effects using clen in a dermal.
What went wrong?
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im sorry for the wrong interpretation. Perhaps wrong thread. I consumed the clen and left with rapid heart beat and strong nausea. Yes, clen is a lot safer on topical, though some believes including myself that clen wont work on topical
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im sorry for the wrong interpretation. Perhaps wrong thread. I consumed the clen and left with rapid heart beat and strong nausea. Yes, clen is a lot safer on topical, though some believes including myself that clen wont work on topical
Well, the Avant line-up of topicals have been around for years and there are many anecdotal reports of them working. Transdermal carriers have come a long way and Avant basically started the transdermal revolution.
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yes, indeed avant research is good by putting essential ingredients but modifying with clen, I dont know unless it is similar ingredients with helios besides the yohimbine
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Originally Posted by bodyfort
yes, indeed avant research is good by putting essential ingredients but modifying with clen, I dont know unless it is similar ingredients with helios besides the yohimbine
Clen has a MW small enough to pass through the skin and the solvent of liquid clen is usually alcohol based and will not negatively impact the efficacy of the transdermal carrier. Adding clen to Lipo-U or Napalm is not a new idea, but there are always questions abut how to do it.
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