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    I'm sorry guys but I never use the pumps. I draw my product out and put it into a bottle with an adapt-a-cap lid and metered syringe for measured applications and experimentation.

    I'm not sure what it is per pump. I thought I remember reading 1ml/pump somewhere but I will let AR speak for their product.

    30ml additional volume will NOT fit into the bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    I thought I remember reading 1ml/pump somewhere but I will let AR speak for their product.
    For Napalm, it is 1ml/pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    For Napalm, it is 1ml/pump.
    OK what is this lipo-u stuff?

    I tried google and came up with nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 View Post
    OK what is this lipo-u stuff?

    I tried google and came up with nothing
    As B posted, Lipo-U is referring to the Avant Labs topical Lipoderm-Ultra.
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    I don't have bulk powder, but I have 50mcg tabs. Can I grind those up and combine it with my Napalm??
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    Some add clen to Napalm, others to Lipo-U. I want to add the clen to one of them and run the one without the clen during the "off" weeks. Which is more effective, Lipo-U + clen or Napalm + clen or does it matter?
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    Can you guys also give me some input on a cycle I'm planning: Cap/Lipo-U/Napalm/DCP/CLA/Clen
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy02 View Post
    I don't have bulk powder, but I have 50mcg tabs. Can I grind those up and combine it with my Napalm??
    No,there is too much filler present to yield an adequate amount of clenbuterol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    No,there is too much filler present to yield an adequate amount of clenbuterol.
    Damn. I thought there might be.

    Well, lookin' forward to trying out my Napalm anyway, even without the clen mixed in. Besides, I'll still be taking the clen, I'll just be dealing with the sides.
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    ****HYPOTHETICAL****

    So say hypothetically someone has a liquid containing 60mls of 100mcg/ml clenbuterol.

    Tell me if this person wasted the clen, or is a GENIOUS!!!

    So this person got this "Idea" from knowing people who cooked down ketamine into powder form.

    So this person take a pot, fills it about half way with boiling water, keeps it just above boiling temp. Now takes a thin plate just slightly larger than the top of the pot, and sets it on top of the pot, so the steam is hitting the bottom of the plate. Now the 60mls of clen solution is poured on the steam heated plate, and slowly but surely evaporates the alcohol solution. Hardened residue is scraped, and added to the napalm. Did this person do this for nothing? Is clen heat sensative in that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    ****HYPOTHETICAL****

    So say hypothetically someone has a liquid containing 60mls of 100mcg/ml clenbuterol.

    Tell me if this person wasted the clen, or is a GENIOUS!!!

    So this person got this "Idea" from knowing people who cooked down ketamine into powder form.

    So this person take a pot, fills it about half way with boiling water, keeps it just above boiling temp. Now takes a thin plate just slightly larger than the top of the pot, and sets it on top of the pot, so the steam is hitting the bottom of the plate. Now the 60mls of clen solution is poured on the steam heated plate, and slowly but surely evaporates the alcohol solution. Hardened residue is scraped, and added to the napalm. Did this person do this for nothing? Is clen heat sensative in that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NasD View Post
    Some add clen to Napalm, others to Lipo-U. I want to add the clen to one of them and run the one without the clen during the "off" weeks. Which is more effective, Lipo-U + clen or Napalm + clen or does it matter?
    Bump to this.

    Puft - can you answer which you think is better with clen?

    I added it to the Napalm - and will use Lipo-Y during the "off" week - but I was curious on this question.

    Thanks.
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    I'll forward these questions to Derek in case he doesn't see them.
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    One other question Pen - is it just one week you need to use a non-clen topical? Or 2?

    For some reason - I'm thinking I did 2 weeks of oral clen, then 2 of ephedrine, then 2 of clen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    One other question Pen - is it just one week you need to use a non-clen topical? Or 2?

    For some reason - I'm thinking I did 2 weeks of oral clen, then 2 of ephedrine, then 2 of clen.
    Loki advised 1 week on/1 week off.

    Brian, on the other hand, does 10 days on/10 days off.
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    Ok cool - looks like I'll do 8 or 10 days. (Need to mix the Lipo-Y - won't have time tomorrow though.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    ****HYPOTHETICAL****

    So say hypothetically someone has a liquid containing 60mls of 100mcg/ml clenbuterol.

    Tell me if this person wasted the clen, or is a GENIOUS!!!

    So this person got this "Idea" from knowing people who cooked down ketamine into powder form.

    So this person take a pot, fills it about half way with boiling water, keeps it just above boiling temp. Now takes a thin plate just slightly larger than the top of the pot, and sets it on top of the pot, so the steam is hitting the bottom of the plate. Now the 60mls of clen solution is poured on the steam heated plate, and slowly but surely evaporates the alcohol solution. Hardened residue is scraped, and added to the napalm. Did this person do this for nothing? Is clen heat sensative in that way?

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    The melting point of Clen is high enough to allow this.

    That said, dealing with clenbuterol powder in the concentration that may be birthed can be dangerous, so anyone who penetrates this hypothetical scenario should take every necessary safety precaution - goggles, mask, gloves.

    Jmh, let me know if my email answered your other question.
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    just got a hold of some clen for free

    wanting to add 5mg of liquid (200mcg/1ml) to my bottle of napalm but it seems that the clen is pretty sweet which i find odd. my thoughts, and i think im right, is that it is flavored grape to hide some of the taste. will i still be able to use this because of the flavoring system. i dont think there is any sugars in it as well.
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    So ummmm... Please pardon my ignorance.. But taking clen transdermally, does it have any stimulant effects, or are they thrown out the window? I read that the "negative" sides are gone, but what about stimulant effects? Can this be applied safely before bed? I noticed Napalm is to be applied twice daily, 12 hours apart, so I'm assuming either the stim effects are nullified or you all are a bunch of zombies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    just got a hold of some clen for free

    wanting to add 5mg of liquid (200mcg/1ml) to my bottle of napalm but it seems that the clen is pretty sweet which i find odd. my thoughts, and i think im right, is that it is flavored grape to hide some of the taste. will i still be able to use this because of the flavoring system. i dont think there is any sugars in it as well.
    It is impossible to say without knowing exactly what we are dealing with, which is why we only provide the best case scenario(s) here. That said, you could get a little mad scientist and give it a mini trial to gauge skin reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaddow View Post
    So ummmm... Please pardon my ignorance.. But taking clen transdermally, does it have any stimulant effects, or are they thrown out the window? I read that the "negative" sides are gone, but what about stimulant effects? Can this be applied safely before bed? I noticed Napalm is to be applied twice daily, 12 hours apart, so I'm assuming either the stim effects are nullified or you all are a bunch of zombies.
    No systemic, sleep shouldn't be affected.
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    would lipo-u + clen hold water the same way as napalm does or worse? mostly wondering whether the real difference shows 3-4 days after stopping
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post
    No systemic, sleep shouldn't be affected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post
    It is impossible to say without knowing exactly what we are dealing with, which is why we only provide the best case scenario(s) here. That said, you could get a little mad scientist and give it a mini trial to gauge skin reactions.
    one step ahead of you, found a larger mad scientist to give it a try on. will let you know his affects soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    would lipo-u + clen hold water the same way as napalm does or worse? mostly wondering whether the real difference shows 3-4 days after stopping
    With either topical you will see the full benefits a few days after cessation of usage as diuretics can only do so much when used along yohimbine.

    Still,with diet dialed in one should see results after two weeks of use and moreso the following weeks.Ending the cycle will dispel any sub-q water retention.
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    I moved from Naplam/clen to bulk Lipo-Y for a week (Loki's rotation) and saw a bit of sub-q water reduction.

    I'm still holding some - but seems to be a bit less. Perhaps the GA in the Naplam does add some water retention over Lipo-Y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    With either topical you will see the full benefits a few days after cessation of usage as diuretics can only do so much when used along yohimbine.

    Still,with diet dialed in one should see results after two weeks of use and moreso the following weeks.Ending the cycle will dispel any sub-q water retention.
    Two weeks on is where the money's at, huh? How long can I run consecutive (w/out clen in it)? My clen got held up at customs but my cycle was scheduled to begin last Monday and I wanted to use Napalm alongside, so i proceeded without. May still do it with the clen when I get off cycle.

    After only 1 week, I've gotta say I'm VERY pleased with the results thus far. Obliques and those cuts just over the hip (what the hell are they called anyway??) are already more pronounced and the bottom two abs are looking a little flatter.
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    This,
    I'd say until you see results start to flatline.

    Now - with clen, you have to use it one week on, one week on something w/o clen.

    Napalm rocks. I'm seeing results in 2 weeks that are pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    I moved from Naplam/clen to bulk Lipo-Y for a week (Loki's rotation) and saw a bit of sub-q water reduction.

    I'm still holding some - but seems to be a bit less. Perhaps the GA in the Naplam does add some water retention over Lipo-Y.
    Yeah. Also take into consideration that LipoDerm has caffeine in it to help cut down the water retention.
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    Good to hear you're seeing signifigant results with only a week in

    A2 receptor downregulation may occur leading to partial desensitivity but this wouldn't become an issue for months,not that you would need to use a topical for such an extended duration.

    I'd suggest using Napalm for 2 weeks rotated with LipodermULTRA for the following two weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy02 View Post
    Two weeks on is where the money's at, huh? How long can I run consecutive (w/out clen in it)? My clen got held up at customs but my cycle was scheduled to begin last Monday and I wanted to use Napalm alongside, so i proceeded without. May still do it with the clen when I get off cycle.

    After only 1 week, I've gotta say I'm VERY pleased with the results thus far. Obliques and those cuts just over the hip (what the hell are they called anyway??) are already more pronounced and the bottom two abs are looking a little flatter.
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    AL folks - I've taken a few pics and before measurements. I intend to post up a final Napalm/Clen (likely followed by FTW) thread here in a few weeks. I'm thinking I have 5 more weeks to go (3 Napalm and 2 Lipo-Y).

    I have LipoUltra - may try clen with that later this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    AL folks - I've taken a few pics and before measurements. I intend to post up a final Napalm/Clen (likely followed by FTW) thread here in a few weeks. I'm thinking I have 5 more weeks to go (3 Napalm and 2 Lipo-Y).

    I have LipoUltra - may try clen with that later this summer.
    Keep us updated.
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    The pics in your avatar suggests one of several things:

    a. You live in a warm-weather city, thus your leanness at this point of the year.
    b. You are a comic book character.
    c. Napalm is the best product ever.

    (Its probably a harmonious blend of the above assumptions ).

    Look forward to hearing the final review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post
    The pics in your avatar suggests one of several things:

    a. You live in a warm-weather city, thus your leanness at this point of the year.
    b. You are a comic book character.
    c. Napalm is the best product ever.

    (Its probably a harmonious blend of the above assumptions ).

    Look forward to hearing the final review.
    I'm going to assume from the numerous allusions he makes to the greatest legacy in the history of college football (the U!) that he resides in beautiful, balmy Miami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy02 View Post
    I'm going to assume from the numerous allusions he makes to the greatest legacy in the history of college football (the U!) that he resides in beautiful, balmy Miami.
    Grew up in south FLA - not quite Miami.

    Had to go to college elsewhere (wanted to go to The U) for chemical engineering.

    I live in Looziana now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post
    The pics in your avatar suggests one of several things:

    a. You live in a warm-weather city, thus your leanness at this point of the year.
    b. You are a comic book character.
    c. Napalm is the best product ever.

    (Its probably a harmonious blend of the above assumptions ).

    Look forward to hearing the final review.
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    I tell you what - I'll pimp Napalm to the clouds some more when I get finished with this.
    I think the results will be awesome.
    Hell - I'll even change my avatar on BB.com from my beloved biceps to my abs with a Napalm tag line above them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Grew up in south FLA - not quite Miami.

    Had to go to college elsewhere (wanted to go to The U) for chemical engineering.

    I live in Looziana now.
    Looziana can get pretty balmy too. Tough keeping those alcohol-related empty cals in check though.

    p.s. Bodybuilding Chemical Engineer Man is not much of a superhero name. You might want to rethink that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy02 View Post
    p.s. Bodybuilding Chemical Engineer Man is not much of a superhero name. You might want to rethink that one.
    I have a nickname on BB.com - Optimus Prime Big Guns.


    Ok - Avant folks, what cha think?

    Before I started Napalm/clen:


    Today - week 1 and 3 were Napalm/clen with week 2 Lipo-Y.
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    Looks good! One of the things I'm doing with my Napalm is to use a B6 supplement with it to keep water retention down. I'm really not holding much water on my abs this way and i'm a week back in to my Napalm.
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