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View Poll Results: Which should we do first, more mass products or more fat loss products?
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:54 AM  
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Avant Research needs YOUR help- more mass or more fat loss first??

Hey y'all,

Our recent launch of Avant Research was a great success, thanks to our great customer base (thanks to everyone) and our very solid initial product mix of Napalm, SyntheSIZE, and SuperCarb. However, we're now at kind of a crossroad and undecided about which way to go first. So, we'd like to get some public feedback from each and every one of YOU.

Basically, the question is this- would you rather see us make more mass-building products or more fat loss products next? We need YOUR help to decide.

Take a look at our future products section here-

Future Products | Avant Research

and vote in the poll to let us know. (On a side note, not all of our future products are listed there, only some)

And feel free to add your thoughts as to why you voted the way you did.

We'll take this feedback and integrate into our evaluation process about which way to go first- more mass products or more fat loss products.

Now understand that no matter which way we go first, we WILL make the other products eventually. This is not a "one-or-the-other" decision, just a "which-way-to-go-FIRST" decision.

Holla' atcha' boyz. More mass products first, or more fat loss products first?

Another way to think of this is, which Performance Pyramid would you like to see unleashed first- the Mass Performance Pyramid or the Fat Loss Performance Pyramid?



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I wanna see some potent mass products from AR.

Ive seen some nifty fat loss products out already.
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Incite is what i wanna hear about....mass brutha, you've got kick ass burners already



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Mass I Wanna Be Huouge :d



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Interesting.

Keep it coming.



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More fat loss products for me please Cutting is tougher then bulking for me so that's why I'm going with cutting supps.
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More fat loss products for me please Cutting is tougher then bulking for me so that's why I'm going with cutting supps.

I agree with Iron Warrior...
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i think not just your line alone but in general there is an insane amount of fatloss products already released that are more then effective when coupled with correct training....

now putting on muscle is always a much harder task and id def like to see more innovative ways of going about doing this, key word is innovation or at least improvement on an already good idea.

maybe if you guys can even get one that does a lil of both? recomp is the word of these boards i feel....
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More fat loss products for me please Cutting is tougher then bulking for me so that's why I'm going with cutting supps.
no REAL bulking is tougher then fat loss.... anyone can get fat quick but its much tougher to turn that protien into muscle.

besides the more lean muscle you buikld the more fat vurning factories you are suppying yourself with.

proper training is the key to fatloss.
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Is HEAT going to be available again?
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Is HEAT going to be available again?
Eventually, yeah, as soon as the supply and price of alpha-yohimbine stabilize.



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I am going to go with Mass here. Mainly because of the multitude of very good fatloss products already out there.



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My first choice would be FED, but since I know AU customs won't let me import protein, I have to choose Shockwave, because I am a junky for stims.

In any case, making us pick from a list of ultimate products is unfair.
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In any case, making us pick from a list of ultimate products is unfair.
Well, like I said, we're not making you pick from them, so to speak. This is not a one or the other decision, just which one should come first. No matter what comes first, the others will come.



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Well, like I said, we're not making you pick from them, so to speak. This is not a one or the other decision, just which one should come first. No matter what comes first, the others will come.
You mean, when Par Deus said "There Can Be Only One!!" he wasn't referring to the new product line?



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Eventually, yeah, as soon as the supply and price of alpha-yohimbine stabilize.
That would be awesome!
Any ideas on this or I know Dsade was talking about bringing in some Alpha-Y a few months back. Is there any possibility of this happening and some HEAT goodness coming back into our lives?
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That would be awesome!
Any ideas on this or I know Dsade was talking about bringing in some Alpha-Y a few months back. Is there any possibility of this happening and some HEAT goodness coming back into our lives?
Samples are on the way to the lab right now for quality verification. If it checks out, everything should happen in short order.



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Samples are on the way to the lab right now for quality verification. If it checks out, everything should happen in short order.
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Nice. If you label the alpha-yohimbine by its other name "rauwolscine" then passage to Australia, and possible other countries that ban yohimbine, will be made easy. I've talked to Sir Savage about this. Is the stuff you are talking about dsade destined for AR products only?



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Nice. If you label the alpha-yohimbine by its other name "rauwolfine" then passage to Australia, and possible other countries that ban yohimbine, will be made easy. I've talked to Sir Savage about this. Is the stuff you are talking about dsade destined for AR products only?
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This is amazing news. I loved the old HEAT stack and am looking forward to its return. Any uses you have cooked up for it should be amazing also.
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