Originally Posted by crader

Wow this stuff is great, my abs are coming in nicely, good definition! I've also lost 5lbs and put myself in the very lean percentile of body fat. I would highly recommend this for someone who wants to burn the fat off their abs.

Over what sort of timespan did you loose the 5?

Any other testers needed??
When will this be available?
Crader- do you have pics of your progress?

Well we're doing private, in-house testing right now (this is an in-house test), but public testing may commence very soon.

If you're interested, keep an eye out for the thread calling for testers.

Originally Posted by Sir Savage

Well we're doing private, in-house testing right now (this is an in-house test), but public testing may commence very soon.

If you're interested, keep an eye out for the thread calling for testers.

I certainly will, thank you!

Where Are The Pics!?!?!?!?

Originally Posted by Sir Savage

Well we're doing private, in-house testing right now (this is an in-house test), but public testing may commence very soon.

If you're interested, keep an eye out for the thread calling for testers.

So how does this product differ from abliberate ?

Originally Posted by EmAzing

Any other testers needed??
When will this be available?
Crader- do you have pics of your progress?

I didn't take any yet because Par Deus said he didn't really want the testing public yet. So I decided to respect the in house testing and wait for consent.

Abliderate does the VAT thats under the muscle. This does the fat right under the skin, the flabbier kind...lol

Originally Posted by crader

I didn't take any yet because Par Deus said he didn't really want the testing public yet. So I decided to respect the in house testing and wait for consent.

Abliderate does the VAT thats under the muscle. This does the fat right under the skin, the flabbier kind...lol

so can they be mixed/stacked?

Originally Posted by macedaddy

so can they be mixed/stacked?

They can be used aroundd 12 hours apart, but they will interfere with each others' absorption so you can't use them at the same time on the same bodypart.

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Over what sort of timespan did you loose the 5?

In about a week and a half. But I'm on DCP as well and I'm eating clean. Plus I try to get cardio in 3-4 days a week.

Originally Posted by crader

In about a week and a half. But I'm on DCP as well and I'm eating clean. Plus I try to get cardio in 3-4 days a week.

Hmm geez, was a bit of it water you think? or have you been cutting for a while already?

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Hmm geez, was a bit of it water you think? or have you been cutting for a while already?

Geez are you trying to say I was bloated!!!! izza: LOL No I've been dieting and cutting for awhile. I just needed time to get it all dialed in and working for me. But the secret lipo is working great. Helping me to see the definition sooner.

Mostly I was trying to hit that pound every 2 days myself (without sacrificing muscle) and it was miserable so wondering how you did it

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Mostly I was trying to hit that pound every 2 days myself (without sacrificing muscle) and it was miserable so wondering how you did it

ahh lol well it is misery. I feel like I'm starving all the time. I'm on the DCP and Sesathin was on green tea caps but I ran out. I do 20 min of cardio on the Nautilis treadclimber machine.(it burns cals twice as fast as a treadmill)

I'm working out hard, trying to keep my heartrate up. And I only eat chicken and buffalo meat or steak..Very low carbs and fish oil. PM me if you want more. I don't want to take up Avants forum with things that they don't sell.

The Lipo is also helping.

Wait, so is this 'Codename: pwnsauce'??

Either way; subscribed!

Originally Posted by rpen22

Wait, so is this 'Codename: pwnsause'??

Either way; subscribed!

Lol its codename...uhm wait I cant tell you. You will have to wait a few more weeks.

Originally Posted by rpen22

Wait, so is this 'Codename: pwnsauce'??

Either way; subscribed!

Savage like to talk in code to keep people guessing.

I'll speak plainly: our new topical will destroy expectations. We're gonna have more people lining up to get a bottle than Apple did for the iPhone launch. :bruce2:

Originally Posted by Stay Puft

Savage like to talk in code to keep people guessing.

I'll speak plainly: our new topical will destroy expectations. We're gonna have more people lining up to get a bottle than Apple did for the iPhone launch. :bruce2:

I can't wait to try it!!!!! I'd much rather have a great topical than an iphone...

I just got my measurements after using Lipo-Y and cap cream for around 3 1/2 weeks. Nada. Here I thought I was noticing something...guess it was just my high hopes. There is too much positive praise for Lipo-Y though, so I'm chalking it up to my ****ty genetics.

I'm not going to write this product off however. I'm willing to try anything at this point.

And yes, my diet was in check and I work out twice a day, 5 days a week. That doesn't include other walking I do with my dogs or rollerblading with the wife.

I'll keep my eye on this thread and wait for this to hit the retailers

Originally Posted by fatty

And yes, my diet was in check and I work out twice a day, 5 days a week. That doesn't include other walking I do with my dogs or rollerblading with the wife.

Wow. Given this, I'd be surprised if you weren't in deficit, with a sound diet and high work output, so I'll ask a few Q's.

1. How much weight have you lost during the LipoDerm-Y trial?
2. Are your applications on dry, clean and hairless skin?
2b. Fitting the above, are you allowing sufficiently time to dry (~10mins shirtless)?

Originally Posted by fatty

I just got my measurements after using Lipo-Y and cap cream for around 3 1/2 weeks. Nada. Here I thought I was noticing something...guess it was just my high hopes. There is too much positive praise for Lipo-Y though, so I'm chalking it up to my ****ty genetics.
retailers

I just ordered lipo-Y...
how long does it suggest it takes to see results with all that you were doing?

Originally Posted by Stay Puft

Wow. Given this, I'd be surprised if you weren't in deficit, with a sound diet and high work output, so I'll ask a few Q's.

1. How much weight have you lost during the LipoDerm-Y trial?
2. Are your applications on dry, clean and hairless skin?
2b. Fitting the above, are you allowing sufficiently time to dry (~10mins shirtless)?

1. My weight has not gone down. I had my BF% and measurements done on June 15 and again yesterday. I'm 227lbs at 12.6%.
2. My applications are always done after I shower. Morning and night. Clean and hairless.
3. At night it's not so much of an issue with letting it dry. I can walk around shirtless and sit in from of a fan. At work, not so much. I usually put it on and stand around for 5 minutes or so

Trust me, I don't think it's the LipoDerm. I think it's me. My wife, mother-in-law, and a handful of other people that I've suggested try your product had great results.
Some people can just cut calories and do some cardio and they get ripped. The only way I've ever been able to get below 10% BF was to live off around 7 cans of tuna with 2 tbspn's of canola oil mayo a day for 8 weeks. Best shape of my life but I can't live like that.
I was just hoping to get a little of the blubber I hold around my belly button and love handle area to shrink down.
My genetics are what keep me from trying a lot of diet products. I want to try DCP but figure it'll just be a dissapointment again.

Originally Posted by EmAzing

I just ordered lipo-Y...
how long does it suggest it takes to see results with all that you were doing?

I'm sure you will have fine results. I'm just a freak and don't get good results from fatloss supps.
Hell, T3 hardly did anything for me once I reached approx. 12% BF.

Wow, I don't think I've heard of anyone not getting any results from Lipo + cap.

You might be a prime test subject for this stuff when we start doing public testing.

Originally Posted by Sir Savage

Wow, I don't think I've heard of anyone not getting any results from Lipo + cap.

You might be a prime test subject for this stuff when we start doing public testing.

well, despite lack of results, I'll continue using the Lipo + cap until the bottle is empty. I don't like the idea of stopping something after I've already paid for it. I've only got a few ounces left anyway.

Originally Posted by fatty

1. My weight has not gone down. I had my BF% and measurements done on June 15 and again yesterday. I'm 227lbs at 12.6%.
2. My applications are always done after I shower. Morning and night. Clean and hairless.
3. At night it's not so much of an issue with letting it dry. I can walk around shirtless and sit in from of a fan. At work, not so much. I usually put it on and stand around for 5 minutes or so

Trust me, I don't think it's the LipoDerm. I think it's me. My wife, mother-in-law, and a handful of other people that I've suggested try your product had great results.
Some people can just cut calories and do some cardio and they get ripped. The only way I've ever been able to get below 10% BF was to live off around 7 cans of tuna with 2 tbspn's of canola oil mayo a day for 8 weeks. Best shape of my life but I can't live like that.
I was just hoping to get a little of the blubber I hold around my belly button and love handle area to shrink down.
My genetics are what keep me from trying a lot of diet products. I want to try DCP but figure it'll just be a dissapointment again.

I work for the company that makes DCP and just like with Avants products you wont be disappointed. It has helped many a person lose decent amounts of weight. Maybe you should try some and run it with the Lipo...double hit it from the inside out?

Are you usually a non-responder to oral supps?

Originally Posted by crader

I work for the company that makes DCP and just like with Avants products you wont be disappointed. It has helped many a person lose decent amounts of weight. Maybe you should try some and run it with the Lipo...double hit it from the inside out?

Are you usually a non-responder to oral supps?

not wanting to hijack (much, but I always do) is there a way to request some DCP samples?

Originally Posted by crader

I work for the company that makes DCP and just like with Avants products you wont be disappointed. It has helped many a person lose decent amounts of weight. Maybe you should try some and run it with the Lipo...double hit it from the inside out?

Are you usually a non-responder to oral supps?

I guess that depends on what you mean by "non-responder"? I have some PPA (what used to be in Adipokinetix) and I get really good energy from that and it makes me sweat like no other. So yes, I respond, however as far as fat loss, there is usually little to none once I get to a certain point. My body just wants to hang on to every last ounce of fat.
I'm sure I'll cave and get some DCP, but it'll be down the road.

Good luck on your testing too. I didn't mean to hijack your thread.

Originally Posted by fatty

I guess that depends on what you mean by "non-responder"? I have some PPA (what used to be in Adipokinetix) and I get really good energy from that and it makes me sweat like no other. So yes, I respond, however as far as fat loss, there is usually little to none once I get to a certain point. My body just wants to hang on to every last ounce of fat.
I'm sure I'll cave and get some DCP, but it'll be down the road.

Good luck on your testing too. I didn't mean to hijack your thread.

No hi-jacking issues here. Its how we all learn. So what does your carb intake look like. DCP has helped me drop below my set point...now I'm going to add an appetite suppresent in. It seems once my body gets below a certain level of fat I feel like i'm starving all the time

Originally Posted by crader

No hi-jacking issues here. Its how we all learn. So what does your carb intake look like. DCP has helped me drop below my set point...now I'm going to add an appetite suppresent in. It seems once my body gets below a certain level of fat I feel like i'm starving all the time

I follow the Anabolic Diet. It's a low carb diet...I'm taking in
less then 30 per day.

The PPA helps with my appetite and I will use nicotine lozenges occasionally for appetite supression.

I've also been taking SesaThin for the last 10 days. 1.25ml 4 to 5 times per day.