1,3 is good in smaller doses. Say 25-40mg.
Rasberry Ketones is an excellent thermogenic and will make you sweat balls in no time.
PLCAR would be great with above ingredients.
3,3 or 3,5 if there was no stims. Dosing gets tricky.
Synephrine curbed my appetite as did 1,3.
TTA never used but heard good things.
Vinpocetine has a great effect on mood and focus.