[ThisGuy02]

Checked out Rugger's log and this looked stack looked promising. I have some left-over cutting supps that I found to be effective and thought I might include in this stack, now centered on these two AN products (by the time I start in 2 weeks, will have taken 6 weeks off the non-AN products).

Here's what I'm thinking:

IGF-2
Drive
Thyrocuts 2
Napalm (2 bottles; 1 w/ clen, 1 w/out)
oh, and I take GABA, not because I think it works at releasing GH, but because it makes me sleep niiiice!

I have about 3 weeks worth Napalm and Thyrocuts and judging by my weight (202 at 5'11" ~16%), I'll have just under 4 weeks of IGF and Drive. If everything I've read about them is true, I'll be ordering a second round of those and going 8 weeks total.

Anyone see a problem with my using a T2 product or the napalm along with these?

I'll also be doing 30 - 60 minutes of cardio every morning (5 days a week) and lifting evenings (3 day split).

[DreamWeaver]

Similar to the stack I will be running in a few weeks. Drive\IGF2\Napalm and Recreate for me. The Drive and IGF2 are for maintaining my mass while I incinerate fat with the other two. Should be very solid. You seem to have the same type of idea.

[ThisGuy02]

Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Similar to the stack I will be running in a few weeks. Drive\IGF2\Napalm and Recreate for me. The Drive and IGF2 are for maintaining my mass while I incinerate fat with the other two. Should be very solid. You seem to have the same type of idea.

I'm VERY interested on hearing how the Recreate goes. Looks like an interesting product, and I've been giving it some thought myself.

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy02

Anyone see a problem with my using a T2 product or the napalm along with these?

nope, nothing wrong with that idea at all

[ThisGuy02]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

nope, nothing wrong with that idea at all

Great! Just the man I was hoping to hear from.

Another question for you...Drive mentions in the warnings people who are sensitive to stims. I'm not, but was curious, would Drive and Venom together be too much? I have some of this on reserve too, and I love it for curbing the appetite, which gets particularly crazy on thyroid supps.

Or what about DreamWeaver's idea of adding Recreate? I'm curious about trying that one too.

Maybe I'll do an 8-weeker like this:

Week 1
IGF-2
Drive

Week 2 - 4
IGF-2
Drive
Thyrocuts 2
Venom Hyperdrive
Napalm (1 week w/ clen, 1 without, 1 with)

Week 5 - 8
IGF-2
Drive
Recreate

or is that just going overboard? I'm thinking it might just get me a little bit ripped...

[Rugger]

I haven't noticed much of a stim effect from Drive, if any. I would not be too worried about it. I think the stim effect from drive is more of a general sense of well being as opposed to the typical stim feel.

[DreamWeaver]

yes it is a constant feeling of well being throughout the day. I hear the same thing about recreate.

[SamBoz19]

Originally Posted by Rugger1

I haven't noticed much of a stim effect from Drive, if any. I would not be too worried about it. I think the stim effect from drive is more of a general sense of well being as opposed to the typical stim feel.

DRIVE is stimulant free so there are not necessarily any stim effects to be expected from it. The general sense of well being though is right on...DRIVE does help stimulate the mind, but more in the sense of feeling more in tune with the mind-muscle connection.

Cheers!

[ThisGuy02]

Originally Posted by SamBoz19

DRIVE is stimulant free so there are not necessarily any stim effects to be expected from it. The general sense of well being though is right on...DRIVE does help stimulate the mind, but more in the sense of feeling more in tune with the mind-muscle connection.

Cheers!

That's what I hoped! I looked through the ingredients and none looked like any stims I know of, but because of the warning, I thought it better to be sure. I Should be lined up for a nice little cycle of supps in about two weeks, then. VERY much looking forward to it, particularly the IGF and Drive. The more research I do, the more great reviews I come across.

[ThisGuy02]

Another question, I keep my diet to moderate carbs. Would AP be any good to me in this cycle? I haven't tried it, but I've been interested for a while.

[SamBoz19]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy02

Another question, I keep my diet to moderate carbs. Would AP be any good to me in this cycle? I haven't tried it, but I've been interested for a while.

AP would only help matters...either that or get some NeoVar, but then again if you want to look into NeoVar, I suggest waiting until we have the new NeoVar out on the market for sale...the new formula is not only stronger, but lighter on the wallet as well.

Since you'll probably do AP...just take it 15 mins before breakfast, your pre-workout meal and your post-workout meal....mix your carbs up...spilt the carbs up between simple and complex with each dose. Using a mixture of both carbs increases the pumps and the muscle fullness from AP. Hey if you got the extra $...getting some P-Slin to use only pre-workout would be quite beneficial to stack along side AP. Just my two cents.

If you have anymore questions, or want some tips...get at me bud.

Cheers!

[ThisGuy02]

Originally Posted by SamBoz19

AP would only help matters...either that or get some NeoVar, but then again if you want to look into NeoVar, I suggest waiting until we have the new NeoVar out on the market for sale...the new formula is not only stronger, but lighter on the wallet as well.

Since you'll probably do AP...just take it 15 mins before breakfast, your pre-workout meal and your post-workout meal....mix your carbs up...spilt the carbs up between simple and complex with each dose. Using a mixture of both carbs increases the pumps and the muscle fullness from AP. Hey if you got the extra $...getting some P-Slin to use only pre-workout would be quite beneficial to stack along side AP. Just my two cents.

If you have anymore questions, or want some tips...get at me bud.

Cheers!

Many thanks, dude!

Yeah, I've been interested in Neovar too, based on all the great feedback, but it's been my experience with all the creatine I've tried, mono and CEE and various brands, that I tend to bloat up pretty bad.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy02

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Yeah, I've been interested in Neovar too, based on all the great feedback, but it's been my experience with all the creatine I've tried, mono and CEE and various brands, that I tend to bloat up pretty bad.

Try NeoVar, or better still, the new NeoVar (when it becomes available). The key is to maximize creatine absorption and bioavailability, and to create an environment with an optimal mix of creatine transporters and ATP/phosphocreatine precursors, such that creatine is effectively shuttled into and practically pressed into skeletal muscle cells. That makes all the difference.

[ThisGuy02]

Originally Posted by strategicmove

Try NeoVar, or better still, the new NeoVar (when it becomes available). The key is to maximize creatine absorption and bioavailability, and to create an environment with an optimal mix of creatine transporters and ATP/phosphocreatine precursors, such that creatine is effectively shuttled into and practically pressed into skeletal muscle cells. That makes all the difference.

I gotta say, I'm growing steadily more tempted. I wouldn't mind just rockin' a little IGF-2, Neovar, Drive, RPM stack.

hmm...you guys don't feel like sponsoring a log of that, by any chance, do you? Get a little Applied Nutriceuticals recomp party cranking?

[ThisGuy02]

Ok, so this is what I'm running (started yesterday).

8 weeks of IGF-2 and Drive
Lipotropin AM first 4 weeks, Venom second 4

Weeks 3 - 6
Thyrocuts II (3 p/d)
Thyrotabs (3 p/d)
DCP
Napalm (1 week clen mix, 1 non, last clen mixed)

Hopefully it helps me cut nicely.