Initial Neovar Review
- 04-20-2008, 02:45 AM
Initial Neovar Review
Ok guys, lemme just tell you this stuff is serious! I have been using this product for about 2 weeks now and I am already noticing the hardening effects! My muscles are fuller and harder....I have new veins starting to show up each day and it seems it just keeps getting better! And this effect is throughout the day, not just after workouts! This stuff is amazing! Initially I was using Nos Ether, which I really like, but Im about 3/4 through that tub, so I started dosing Neovar pre-breakfast and then post-workout and have been loving the effects I have been getting! AN you have made me a believer! As soon as I can get a little more $$$ up I am going to start my summer cut! Im ready to be ripped this summer! This is my stack so far:
P-slin (2xday dosing)
maybe sum budget ergonomics if I can get sum! Here is a pic of me pre-cut!
Any suggestions for the cut stack?
- 04-20-2008, 03:33 AM
dude ur physique is solid
you must tell me ur diettoes-on-the-nose.blogspot.com Deployed blogging
- 04-20-2008, 04:10 AM
I second that!
Please do share your diet with us.
Anyway, if your liking the original formula of NeoVar, wait another month or so and pick up the new formula. The new NeoVar formula is on a whole different playing field. Glad your liking the original though as the original kicks ass by itself...I grew fond of it rather quickly myself when I first used it...
A suggestion...I notice your not taking any stims...are you against them? If not, pick up some RPM. DRIVE/IGF-2/RPM together along with everything else you are taking will definitely do some work for you, especially increasing muscle hardness and vascularity.
One last thing...why take both P-Slin and NeoVar? I mean I am a fan of both, but I would assume your using them at the same time? If not, I would see no issue with using both of them. Taking them at the same time though...to me that would seem detrimental to your cutting aspirations. Both products are aimed at shuttling carbs and manipulating your insulin to your advantage, but to take them at the same time I would honestly believe that could cause some serious stomach discomfort, hypoglycemia, and lead to more of an appetite increase as opposed to wanting to have a decrease in your appetite for a cut. However, I've never used both at the same time, and wouldn't, but thats just my opinion. I'll just say if its working for you...keep doing what your doing because obviously you know how to take care of your body quite well...judging from the pic at least.
If you have any other questions or need help, post here in the AN subforum, or you can pm me if you want my personal assistance.
Cheers!"Never trust a b*tch because b*tches be crazy, now get out there and go crush some P***Y!" - Jerry Stiller.
04-20-2008, 06:59 AM
04-20-2008, 12:03 PM
04-20-2008, 12:11 PM
What are you trying to cut?. You shouldn't have to worry about bodyfat!. Also, much respect for posting you head in the picture. Most guys on here seem to be afraid or ashamed or something and cut out their heads.
04-20-2008, 06:45 PM
Thanks guys for all the positive input! This summer I just want to be razor sharp! Still got just a little bit more to cut! I am naturally skinny and was blessed with a good metabolism! I was a gymnast for 8 years but caught the weight lifting bug ever since I quit! I bulked up to 230lbs which I gained a ton of fat because I did it the wrong way....2-3 1,200cal weight gainer shakes a day will do it to you haha! So right now I fluctuate between about 175-180. I just struggle really hard with my diet! I do good for a few days and then I cheat, but here is what my diet SHOULD look like minus cheat meals...and yes I know I have sum weird food combos:
1 pack weight control oatmeal or 1 cup kashi whole grain cereal
Usually a chicken breast by tyson or shrimp or protein shake (usually around 40-50g protein whichever choice)
2 1/2-3hours later (still at school)
Protein shake and sometimes if I feel I haven't ate enough carbs I will take 3/4-1 cup of kashi cereal with me.
As much of any vege as I want (brocolli, asparagus, green beans, spinach, etc) With any of the above protein choices (usually chicken, protein shake, or shrimp...sometimes I will eat a lean 6-9oz steak)
Sweet Potato and protein shake
Post-workout-Protein Shake with wms
then about an hour later I eat another sweet potato with usually chicken or steak
Then usually my last meal unless I stay up late is either a Huge salad with chicken or any vege I want, as much as I want, with chicken.
Thats pretty much it, but leme tell you I am prob one of the worst as far as cheating goes. I can do good for a few days but when I cheat, I can't stop and its not just one cheat meal! haha. I think my body responds best to carb cycling so I think I am going to try to hit that pretty hard on my cut to help me retain size.
Sam, you have me like a kid in a candy store....I CAN'T wait for the new Neovar. I didn't know it was being reformulated. The reason for taking neovar with p-slin (wouldn't be taking it at the same time) was because I have another bottle left and was going to use it, along with p-slin, with any of my carb meals if need be, but here was what I was thinkin:
Post-workout-Neovar with protein/wms
Sam, I am not against taking stims at all. As of lately I have been trying to stay away from caffeine. Naturally I take in WAY TOO much a day...I love coffee haha! But I had thought about throwing in RPM/RDY 4 War/ or recreate.
I definately want my pre-workout stack to look like this:
New NOS Ether
Rdy 4 War or RPM
I have been trying not to use to many supplements together lately so I can tell what is actually working. I have a bad habit of taking a bunch of stuff together and not really know what is working and what is not. But I def know that Neovar works and now I can't wait until the new release. Do you know the date it will be released? I want to be the first in line haha. Would you recomend anything else to add to my stack that you would think would be beneficial? Thanks again everyone for your time and help! It is much appreciated!
04-20-2008, 06:56 PM
Oh another meal I have been eatin alot lately that is pretty tasty is I will heat up one or two tyson teryoki chicken breast up then put a little shredded cheese over it then pour either black beans or red kidney beans on top! I think its good! Really good amount of protein!
04-20-2008, 08:37 PM
As far as an addition to your cut, i'd say maybe just adding ECGC, Lipotrophin-PM, and your choice of thermogenic during the day while keeping eating the same ought to help slowly drop off what little excess you have. Its almost hard to suggest anything, i'm not expecting to look that good post cut.. :P
04-20-2008, 09:47 PM
Thanks for the kind words easy! Hey, your mega-dosing fish oil intriguied me! Do you think this would be beneficial for me to still cut while gaining muscle or should I wait till I start a lbm gaining phase?
04-20-2008, 09:53 PM
04-20-2008, 09:53 PM
"Never trust a b*tch because b*tches be crazy, now get out there and go crush some P***Y!" - Jerry Stiller.
04-20-2008, 10:05 PM
on the fish oil, if you aren't already taking at least 3-6g a day, you should start thats just regular day to day dosage that pretty much anyone should take. at 6g a day, that gives you around a gram of EPA and 750mg DHA give or take. As far as higher doses, its something you can experiment with either on a bulk or cut, just have to be cautious on a cut that you account for the added calories. I'm not sure how much it would help in your shoes, as part of how its believed to help on a cut is thru the insulin sensitivity reduction which you already have covered with ap/pslin/neovar. Definitely worth taking 3-6g as a daily dose regardless
04-20-2008, 10:45 PM
Sam, thanks for the input. I had been looking at lipo-pm and totally forgot about it! I am def going to add that to my stack. I think I might hold off and run the rpm at a later date. My stack is getting rather costly haha, but I can't make it without my supps haha.
Easy, I alrdy take in a good amount of fish oil....good point that im already covered with all my other supps. I might try that after the cut and see what happens!
3clipse, thanks so much for the kind words! Ya'll keep me motivated!
Again, thanks to everyone for all the help! Much thanks to the AN reps...I already had very high respect for your company just from Neovar...its hard to find good/truthfull/respectable supplement co out there these days with products that actually do what they claim...but you have def increased my respect for your help and kindness! As soon as I get everything lined out I think I am going to do a log...that way it will keep me more strict and motivated....I am going to break out the tape meausre on this one and see what we can do! Might still be writing in for a little more help! Thanks again
04-20-2008, 11:43 PM
04-20-2008, 11:59 PM
04-21-2008, 09:32 AM
04-21-2008, 09:33 AM
04-21-2008, 10:02 AM
04-21-2008, 10:52 AM
We should just all be more supportive of his decision guys... If he wants to drop his bf from 6% to 5% it's his choice. lol
04-21-2008, 12:31 PM
04-21-2008, 02:16 PM
He looks about 3 weeks out of contest. Maybe he wants to get into contest shape for some reason. He's about 6-7 right now so maybe 4 or 5 weeks for contest actually. Some people just find it easy to stay lean, his diet if very clean though.
04-21-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm doing the same myself, getting in contest shape. Just to say I had the dicipline to do it. I might get some pro photos done at that time as well. Its nice to challenge yourself and see just how good you can be!!
04-21-2008, 03:46 PM
Im with you crader, I like the challenge! After bulkning up and being 'big' for two years I thought it was about time to see if i had really accomlished anything with my physique. So I really want to push myself and see how good I can do! As far as contests go, I really want to do one in the near future, but my legs need quite a bit of work...why else do you think I left my legs outa the pic haha I just have a hard time making myself do legs. It is my least favorite body part to train! This next winter I am going to really focus on putting sum mass on them and maybe next year I will be ready to do a show!
04-21-2008, 03:51 PM
Also wanted to mention how neovar is still blowing my mind! My body responds very well to the banaba. Last night I um...cheated quite a bit ( i just couldn't get full).....and leme tell you before I went to bed, I was looking huge and ripped! I couldn't believe it! I had even more veins poppin than I had ever seen! Even sum in my shoulders that I didn't even know I had! This stuff is incredibly! I can't wait till the new formula comes out! I dunno if you can divulge any info about it, but is it still going to contain the banaba extract??? Give us a little hint about it! haha
04-21-2008, 04:02 PM
“Besides, it is a disgrace to grow old through sheer carelessness before seeing what manner of man you may become by developing your bodily strength and beauty to their highest limit.”
04-21-2008, 04:38 PM
Thank for the thread exodus! Oh I can't wait til it comes out! The new formula looks very solid! Can I just buy one of the beta bottles now from AN???? haha come on! Pretty please! haha
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