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Old 02-26-2008, 08:33 PM   #1
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Overkill or Ok?

Hi, I was planning on the following stack and wanted some feedback before diving in.

Drive - Applied Nutriceuticals
RPM - Applied Nutriceuticals
IGF-2 - Applied Nutriceuticals
NeoVar - Applied Nutriceuticals
Lean Xtreme - Designer Supplements
DCP - RPN
Relora - Now Foods
Ashwagandha - Now Foods
Purple Warth - Controlled Labs
Activite Sport - MHP

Here are the particulars for me. I am 40 year old, 210lbs, 5'7", 32% body fat and Total Test is 193. I am also somewhat muscular since I have always lifted weights but never really took supplements. However, I have a lot of my bodyfat mostly in the abdomen area, probably due to stress and cortisol. My goal is too loose the body fat (get it under 20% for the first time in my life), while not loosing too much weight. Ideally, I'd like to be btwn 190-200 lbs while adding some more muscle and losing the fat.

Other things to consider: I am little concerned about anything that might make me a little too aggressive (I have a bit of a short fuse). I also do not sleep that well at night so I am a little concerned about anything that might keep me up at night and I am sometimes depressed (although since I started working out again and cleaned up my diet a bit I am feel much better, but the sleep is still sometimes irregular).
 
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Its kind of a bit much to jump all in at once with honestly for your first venture into supplements. Given the specifics of what you are looking at, i'd probably go with drive, IGF-2, DCP and relora to start with at most.

Really diet + exercise are key, the supplements just add some extra helping hands. Without good diet + exercise plans, even steroids are useless. So give us some more specifics on those
 



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Its kind of a bit much to jump all in at once with honestly for your first venture into supplements. Given the specifics of what you are looking at, i'd probably go with drive, IGF-2, DCP and relora to start with at most.

Really diet + exercise are key, the supplements just add some extra helping hands. Without good diet + exercise plans, even steroids are useless. So give us some more specifics on those
I am lifting about 30-45 minutes per day with 20-25 minutes of cardio at the end. I am doing a three day split: Legs/Chest & BACK/Shoulders, Tri's & Bi's. I usually take one day off during the week and usually do one day of HIIT (no weights on that day) followed with abs. As for calories, I'd say that I am somewhere btwn 2400 - 3000 per day but that's just a rough estimate with no cookies,cake, diet soda, chocolate, etc.
 

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Anyone else? What about the other usual suspects from AN?

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umm If you dont have a lot of supp experience I would suggest starting out simple and working your way up to a more aggressive plan as you progress, remember simplicity is the key to success!! That and a proper diet/ exercise program...Anyhow, Good Luck!!
 
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Its kind of a bit much to jump all in at once with honestly for your first venture into supplements. Given the specifics of what you are looking at, i'd probably go with drive, IGF-2, DCP and relora to start with at most.

Really diet + exercise are key, the supplements just add some extra helping hands. Without good diet + exercise plans, even steroids are useless. So give us some more specifics on those
Sounds good. What about Neovar? Won't I need some creatine to help lifting, or by already using PW then I don't need it, or could it be that creatine makes you retain water and that's something I should avoid all together given my goal?
 
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Sounds good. What about Neovar? Won't I need some creatine to help lifting, or by already using PW then I don't need it, or could it be that creatine makes you retain water and that's something I should avoid all together given my goal?
I personally dont like ANY form of CEE just my opinion...
 
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I personally dont like ANY form of CEE just my opinion...
Mind if I ask why?
 
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Mind if I ask why?
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The only creatines that work well for me are Kre-Alkalyn,,Green Mag, and Clout, Also Ragnarok (which has the creatine's from green mag and clout)
 
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The only creatines that work well for me are Kre-Alkalyn,,Green Mag, and Clout, Also Ragnarok (which has the creatine's from green mag and clout)
Yeah that what I am getting now with Purple Warth. Too bad to because I do like it especially for my pre and intra work outs.
 
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Yeah that what I am getting now with Purple Warth. Too bad to because I do like it especially for my pre and intra work outs.
Seriously if I were you I would def try Rag! Def an amzing all in 1 product!
 
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Hey then keep that in my point was to avoid throwing kitchen sink of everything all at once, just phase products in over time so you can see + feel the difference
 



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Hey then keep that in my point was to avoid throwing kitchen sink of everything all at once, just phase products in over time so you can see + feel the difference

COOL got that now.

PS what about the specifics that you asked about, i.e., diet and exercise...seem ok?
 
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COOL got that now.

PS what about the specifics that you asked about, i.e., diet and exercise...seem ok?
Not sure if Easy's the man to ask that to; he's currently sitting at 40(?), 15%, benching 135lbs and decided he was ready to juice.

Seriously though, in terms of the specifics, could you give us more? You listed general 'types' of foods. In order to get the results you want, you will need to nail your diet down. There is now a diet tracker on this site, that should help you.

In terms of your split, it is a little bit out of whack - I see no back in there, and arms twice. A split I like is:

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