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Old 01-08-2008, 07:01 AM   #1
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Question drive/rpm and caffeine

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Just got my RPM/DRIVE stack to test out and I was wondering about the correct dosage. I'm about 110lb (yeah you can laugh all you want, I'm a girl ok ?! Should I start off with 1DRIVE/1RPM first thing in the morning and then the same an hour before workout ? Also, I know that Applied Nutriceuticals advises not to take other stimulants whilst stacking with DRIVE/RPM, however, I would find life miserable without my morning and pre-workout coffee. Any thoughts on that ?
 
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:17 AM   #2
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caffeine overdosing

I'm aware that RPM contains caffeine but I can't find how much. Anything over 100mg in one hit and I feel like the heart had gone into my head beating million miles per hour and screaming to get out. That is why I'd like to know whether it is wise or not to flush the pills down with a capuchino or not
 
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Just got my RPM/DRIVE stack to test out and I was wondering about the correct dosage. I'm about 110lb (yeah you can laugh all you want, I'm a girl ok ?! Should I start off with 1DRIVE/1RPM first thing in the morning and then the same an hour before workout ? Also, I know that Applied Nutriceuticals advises not to take other stimulants whilst stacking with DRIVE/RPM, however, I would find life miserable without my morning and pre-workout coffee. Any thoughts on that ?
For your weight category, I would suggest trying 1 capsule of both RPM and Drive per day. You can take these once pre-workout. Start this protocol and see how it goes. If you wish to increase dosage, go to 2 caps of Drive and stick to one RPM. Do that for a while and see how your body reacts.

I do not think your morning and pre-workout coffee, as long as they are not overly strong, should interfere with results, if you cannot avoid them.
 



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I'm aware that RPM contains caffeine but I can't find how much. Anything over 100mg in one hit and I feel like the heart had gone into my head beating million miles per hour and screaming to get out. That is why I'd like to know whether it is wise or not to flush the pills down with a capuchino or not
While the amount of caffeine in RPM is proprietary information that I neither know, nor would divulge, if I knew, I would not expect one RPM to contain as much as 100mg of caffeine.
 



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If I remember correctly Its a little above 50mg.
 
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For your weight category, I would suggest trying 1 capsule of both RPM and Drive per day. You can take these once pre-workout. Start this protocol and see how it goes. If you wish to increase dosage, go to 2 caps of Drive and stick to one RPM. Do that for a while and see how your body reacts.

I do not think your morning and pre-workout coffee, as long as they are not overly strong, should interfere with results, if you cannot avoid them.


Thanks for that, tried one on one today without much effect so I think I'll double the drive as you suggested. Patience is the key to success they say so I won't be gulping down dozens of pills just yet. I read that some users only experienced effects from RPM/Drive after a week or so of use.
 
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Thanks for that, tried one on one today without much effect so I think I'll double the drive as you suggested. Patience is the key to success they say so I won't be gulping down dozens of pills just yet. I read that some users only experienced effects from RPM/Drive after a week or so of use.
Yes, start slowly and increase dosage, if and when needed. RPM and Drive have cumulative effects that tend to get better with time.
 



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I'm close to twice your weight, and I rarely take more than 1 RPM a day, which is before a workout - if I take it at all.
However, I do take 3 Drive in the morning and 3 pre-workout.
I do not drink coffee.

It's not always just the caffeine you have to be concerned about to avoid the side-effects you're hoping to avoid - there are other stims too.

I know I'm not answering your question, but rather just sharing my "belief" (I'm not a pharmaceutical scientist) that, that especially with stimulants, some people are able to underdose some products and still receive results from them. So I agree with assessing your tolerance and increasing dosages slowly.

I used to be the kind of guy that would take ECA and still fall asleep at times, but somewhere after that my body reacted to stims a bit differently. (I underdose RPM for my weight, and severely underdose Leviathan if/when I take it - I'm extremely sensitive to yohimbe I think). I also "break the rules" and take them only on a full stomach. I'm not saying this is optimal for absorption, but I guess that's also the reason why I have to do it that way or else get sick.
 
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Thanks for that, tried one on one today without much effect so I think I'll double the drive as you suggested. Patience is the key to success they say so I won't be gulping down dozens of pills just yet. I read that some users only experienced effects from RPM/Drive after a week or so of use.
It would be best to go maybe 3 days at just 1 drive a day before jumping to 2. One of the active ingredients in Drive (forslean) can give people "digestive tract issues" if you dont ramp up, and give a little time for your body to adjust.

RPM is pretty much immediate effect, and yes its definitely under 100mg. If you want to try something to really get a fast kick out of rpm instead of taking the capsule an hour pre-workout, about 5-10 min pre workout open a cap and dump it in a shotglass of water, then shoot it. Tastes horrible, but its kick is enormously higher that way
 




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I've taken 2 Leviathan Reloaded and 4 RPM's first thing in the morning when I was cutting and doing morning cardio. I handle stims really well so it was alright for me, but what I found was that it QUICKLY diminished my response to both products as far as stimulation. I don't even feel my 4 RPMs anymore when I take it at night pre-workout (I'm 222lbs).

I'm taking Rest-AD to try and correct my non-responsiveness, so we'll see.

I've even taken 3 RPM's with 200mg Caffeine, but again, I'm very stim tolerant.
 



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It would be best to go maybe 3 days at just 1 drive a day before jumping to 2. One of the active ingredients in Drive (forslean) can give people "digestive tract issues" if you dont ramp up, and give a little time for your body to adjust.

RPM is pretty much immediate effect, and yes its definitely under 100mg. If you want to try something to really get a fast kick out of rpm instead of taking the capsule an hour pre-workout, about 5-10 min pre workout open a cap and dump it in a shotglass of water, then shoot it. Tastes horrible, but its kick is enormously higher that way
That is exactly what I had done, popped the cap open. I do not think that the brilliant red and blue coating on the capsule are active parts of the ingredient mix I even mixed them with 1/2tsp of L-Arg, and I thought it was ok, haha
 
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